Dimiter_Popoff wrote:> On 11/12/2021 19:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> .... >> Europeans have the strangest cartoon opinions about non-europeans. >> > > Are you saying you are not all chewing gum while wearing cowboy hats > and riding mustangs? > Come on, who's going believe you. >Well, my Mustang is a convertible, and my hats are mostly Panama, but I really really hate gum-chewing. Cheers Phil "Yee-Ha" Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
rant: filenames
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2021 14:52:24 -0800, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:>On Mon, 08 Nov 2021 08:45:49 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com >wrote: > >>What do you think this is? [1] >> >>mech_eng_jw.pdf >> >>Or maybe >> >>datasheet.pdf ? >> >>And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >> >>And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>they have? >> >>And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>available in stock anywhere? That's typically european. >> >> >> >>[1] it's a data sheet for a relay > >I just downloaded a connector catalog. > >b34f79_b606fb9550094065aabc6f5c0de27939.pdfThere's usually a save dialog, with your choice of folder location and file name. The folder is important, as it reduces search and resorting tasks in the future. Saving it straight into the relevent network library makes sense, with a copy to the recent work folder where it may be needed soonest. The title and author surname is a good choice, along with relevent info that might already be in the file name, like publication and date. Place in a folder that covers the subject. For hardware 'PN xV ymA zSPDTspecialchar MFR' in a relay folder, even if it is an entire catalog, or data sheet covering a multitude of variations. Otherwise a descriptive name for contents, mfr name and date of publication, for catalogs you haven't time for. There was an issue, once, where directory letter length exceeded DOS capability, so subdirectory stacking was cramped. Haven't hit that in 64bit OS, yet. If you haven't got time to read the doc, to find out what's in it, then you can't really need it that badly - best to skim first before saving, otherwise it might just as well be trash. RL
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 15:36:42 -0800 (PST), Rich S <richsulinengineer@gmail.com> wrote:>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 4:45:59 PM UTC, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> What do you think this is? [1] >> mech_eng_jw.pdf >> Or maybe >> datasheet.pdf ? >> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >> they have? >> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >> available in stock anywhere? That's typically european. >> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >> Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; >> but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was >> always most valuable when he had lost it. > >Hi John, >Agreed, some human-interpretable info should be in the file > >Some standard naming convention, like that used for >government-spec standard parts, would be good. >Taxonomy management is a whole job by itself. >Large orgs have people to do this work. > >As a DIY tool, I found this to be helpful, to make >PDF's (part datasheets) have more info. > >"File Metadata" >https://www.softpedia.com/get/System/File-Management/File-Metadata.shtml > >Now when I select a PDF in File explorer, the "Details Pane" has >many more fields available to see & edit. >I.e., In 'Comments' describe what the document is about. > >regards, RSRelax, let Microsoft do it . . . . ;-p RL
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 14:01:29 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 13:36:26 -0500, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 15:36:26 +0000, Martin Brown >>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/11/2021 14:33, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 09:50:01 +0000, Martin Brown >>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would not ask mountain rescue teams to save people who >>>>>>> wonder up into the mountain in flipflops using Google maps >>>>>>> on their mobile phone to navigate and then get lost when >>>>>>> the battery runs out. The mountain rescue teams are rather >>>>>>> more forgiving but I think idiots who do that should be >>>>>>> charged for the full cost of their rescue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would limit treatment to life saving only for people who >>>>>>> refuse to wear seat belts and were mangled as a result of >>>>>>> going through their windscreen. That is another idiotic >>>>>>> decision some make. A few mangled survivors wondering >>>>>>> around would do wonders for seat belt compliance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, good thing you don't make health-care policy. Every ER >>>>>> would have an intake moralist on staff who would decide who >>>>>> should be rejected and die. >>>>> >>>>> Darwinism in action would be the hardest possible line. I am >>>>> quite happy to keep them alive but they can pay for their own >>>>> plastic surgery to reassemble their face if they have failed >>>>> to wear a seat belt. >>>>> >>>>> Do something stupid and you have to take responsibility for >>>>> your actions. >>>>> >>>>>>> US is particularly bad for this since airbag explosives >>>>>>> are set to kill smaller women drivers just to save the big >>>>>>> fat lard arse who CBA to use a seat belt. I don't think >>>>>>> that is fair to women drivers YMMV. eg. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/south-carolina-driver-killed-exploding-air-bag-inflator-77230834 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >Although that particular one was due to using unstable ammonium nitrate >>>>>>> as the propellant it was the *amount* of it that killed >>>>>>> the driver. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do european air bags have less propellant? Is the amount >>>>>> loaded on a per-country basis? >>>>> >>>>> Yes. US has a dodgy airbag policy resulting in a lot more >>>>> fatalities particularly of smaller women who have to sit >>>>> closer to the steering wheel. It is almost invariably that >>>>> airbag that kills (or injures) them. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/crash-test-bias-how-male-focused-testing-puts-female-drivers-at-risk/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >Somewhat more detailed analysis of the US kill smaller females airbag >>>>> policy here snappily titled "Survey of Driver Seating >>>>> Positions in Relation to the Steering Wheel". Being too close >>>>> to it when it goes off is a very bad thing: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.jstor.org/stable/44741050 >>>>> >>>>> Short form version it is a bad idea to be a female driver >>>>> under 5'5". >>>>> >>>>> The same issue doesn't arise in Europe or Japan because seat >>>>> belts are mandatory there (and enforced). >>>> >>>> Seat belt use is mandatory and enforced in California. >>> >>> And New York, and Connecticut, and New Jersey, and Massachusetts, >>> and... >>> >>> <https://www.ghsa.org/sites/default/files/2020-08/SeatBeltLaws_Aug20.pdf>. >>> >>> >>> >>> >49 states, 4 terriories, plus DC. (Exercise for the reader: find the >>> missing state. Hint: it's not Texas, or Florida, or Alabama, or >>> Oklahoma, or Mississippi, or Arizona, or Nevada, or New Mexico, or >>> Virgina, or Montana, or Wyoming, or Alaska. Folks from the >>> Northeastern US will guess immediately.) >>> >>>> Europeans have the strangest cartoon opinions about >>>> non-europeans. >>> >>> No kidding. It's not like better info is hard to find--that >>> reference came up second on DDG, and was the first one I looked >>> at. >>> >>> They could even ask folks that live here, perish the thought. Seems >>> like there's something psychological going on there. > >> USians go to europe a lot and seem to like the place. > >Funny you should mention that. I'm currently ensconced in an AirBnB in >the Marais district of Paris with Mo and our beloved elder daughter. We >spent the day walking around all over the place. We all love France-- >#1 daughter comes a few times a year, and this is probably Mo's and my >tenth time. We'll be here all week. ;) > >Hopefully the illegal nightclub across the street keeps the windows >closed tonight--it was pretty loud last night.I've spent a few months total in France, but I didn't much like the big cities. Too busy, grey, often rude. The French countryside, the villages, are wonderful. Ditto England, although Oxford is nice. Say hi to Mo from me and Mo.> >> I wonder how many europeans visit the US, and especially how many get >> away from the usual tourist traps. > >Well, there's a lot more of the United States than there is Western >Europe, after all. (Not even counting Canada, my old stomping ground.) > Plus all the media crap that we--most unfortunately--lob at them must >be very confusing. Not even counting the CCP propaganda machine and its >fellow travellers. >Yeah, reading newspapers and web sites gives a very distorted view of real people and places.>> We do have a lot of tiny, often Asian immigrant, women here. And a >> few huge guys. Must be tough to design seats and seat belts and air >> bags. > >Putting weight sensors in the seats is good. I'm egalitarian enough to >think that bubbas, tiny women, and small children (including unborn >ones) are all valuable.That's a nice, non-tribal attitude. Most everyone that I meet is cheerful and friendly. My street is maybe 1/3 immigrants (emphasis on grossly overpaid googlers) and we have block parties and drinks and pastry wars. We are the neighborhood lemon and red-beans source. Many dogs and kids. Nobody talks politics or any of that sort of media shrieking junk. -- Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable when he had lost it.
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 14:23:03 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: >> l�rdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 19.37.32 UTC+1 skrev Phil Hobbs: >>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 15:36:26 +0000, Martin Brown >>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/11/2021 14:33, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 09:50:01 +0000, Martin Brown >>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would not ask mountain rescue teams to save people who wonder up into >>>>>>> the mountain in flipflops using Google maps on their mobile phone to >>>>>>> navigate and then get lost when the battery runs out. The mountain >>>>>>> rescue teams are rather more forgiving but I think idiots who do that >>>>>>> should be charged for the full cost of their rescue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would limit treatment to life saving only for people who refuse to >>>>>>> wear seat belts and were mangled as a result of going through their >>>>>>> windscreen. That is another idiotic decision some make. A few mangled >>>>>>> survivors wondering around would do wonders for seat belt compliance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, good thing you don't make health-care policy. Every ER would have >>>>>> an intake moralist on staff who would decide who should be rejected >>>>>> and die. >>>>> >>>>> Darwinism in action would be the hardest possible line. I am quite happy >>>>> to keep them alive but they can pay for their own plastic surgery to >>>>> reassemble their face if they have failed to wear a seat belt. >>>>> >>>>> Do something stupid and you have to take responsibility for your actions. >>>>> >>>>>>> US is particularly bad for this since airbag explosives are set to kill >>>>>>> smaller women drivers just to save the big fat lard arse who CBA to use >>>>>>> a seat belt. I don't think that is fair to women drivers YMMV. eg. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/south-carolina-driver-killed-exploding-air-bag-inflator-77230834 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Although that particular one was due to using unstable ammonium nitrate >>>>>>> as the propellant it was the *amount* of it that killed the driver. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do european air bags have less propellant? Is the amount loaded on a >>>>>> per-country basis? >>>>> >>>>> Yes. US has a dodgy airbag policy resulting in a lot more fatalities >>>>> particularly of smaller women who have to sit closer to the steering >>>>> wheel. It is almost invariably that airbag that kills (or injures) them. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/crash-test-bias-how-male-focused-testing-puts-female-drivers-at-risk/ >>>>> >>>>> Somewhat more detailed analysis of the US kill smaller females airbag >>>>> policy here snappily titled "Survey of Driver Seating Positions in >>>>> Relation to the Steering Wheel". Being too close to it when it goes off >>>>> is a very bad thing: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.jstor.org/stable/44741050 >>>>> >>>>> Short form version it is a bad idea to be a female driver under 5'5". >>>>> >>>>> The same issue doesn't arise in Europe or Japan because seat belts are >>>>> mandatory there (and enforced). >>>> >>>> Seat belt use is mandatory and enforced in California. >>> And New York, and Connecticut, and New Jersey, and Massachusetts, and... >>> >>> <https://www.ghsa.org/sites/default/files/2020-08/SeatBeltLaws_Aug20.pdf>. >>> >>> 49 states, 4 terriories, plus DC. (Exercise for the reader: find the >>> missing state. Hint: it's not Texas, or Florida, or Alabama, or >>> Oklahoma, or Mississippi, or Arizona, or Nevada, or New Mexico, or >>> Virgina, or Montana, or Wyoming, or Alaska. Folks from the Northeastern >>> US will guess immediately.) >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States#Laws_by_state_and_territory >> >> are the size of the fines real? most seem very low, here not wearing a seatbelt is minimum ~$230 >> someone under 15 without a seatbelt is ~$300 plus a point on the license for the driver > >What's that got to do with it? I don't remember the last time I saw >somebody driving with no seatbelt. > >MB seems to think that it's all unbelted bubbas over here. That's >strange--he seems pretty sane otherwise. > >C'mon over here, Martin--We'll show you a good time and get some good >old Western Hemisphere air into you, lad. ;)Is New York in the Western Hemisphere? -- Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable when he had lost it.
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 21:17:20 +0200, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> wrote:>On 11/12/2021 19:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> .... >> Europeans have the strangest cartoon opinions about non-europeans. >> > >Are you saying you are not all chewing gum while wearing cowboy hats >and riding mustangs?I never said that, but some of us design electronics and occasionally eat Thai food alongside the trail.>Come on, who's going believe you.OK, stay away and never try Anchor Steam Beer with cracked crab and Tartine sourdough. -- Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable when he had lost it.
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On 11/13/2021 21:57, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 21:17:20 +0200, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> > wrote: > >> On 11/12/2021 19:22, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>> .... >>> Europeans have the strangest cartoon opinions about non-europeans. >>> >> >> Are you saying you are not all chewing gum while wearing cowboy hats >> and riding mustangs? > > I never said that, but some of us design electronics and occasionally > eat Thai food alongside the trail.I knew it I knew it. Though it looks like Phil has to work on gum chewing :)> >> Come on, who's going believe you. > > OK, stay away and never try Anchor Steam Beer with cracked crab and > Tartine sourdough. >Try something made of silicon or metal to tempt me, I am too much of a pig to need something to taste like made in heaven to get started...
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 14:01:29 -0500, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>> On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 13:36:26 -0500, Phil Hobbs >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>> >>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 15:36:26 +0000, Martin Brown >>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 12/11/2021 14:33, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 09:50:01 +0000, Martin Brown >>>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would not ask mountain rescue teams to save people who >>>>>>>> wonder up into the mountain in flipflops using Google maps >>>>>>>> on their mobile phone to navigate and then get lost when >>>>>>>> the battery runs out. The mountain rescue teams are rather >>>>>>>> more forgiving but I think idiots who do that should be >>>>>>>> charged for the full cost of their rescue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would limit treatment to life saving only for people who >>>>>>>> refuse to wear seat belts and were mangled as a result of >>>>>>>> going through their windscreen. That is another idiotic >>>>>>>> decision some make. A few mangled survivors wondering >>>>>>>> around would do wonders for seat belt compliance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow, good thing you don't make health-care policy. Every ER >>>>>>> would have an intake moralist on staff who would decide who >>>>>>> should be rejected and die. >>>>>> >>>>>> Darwinism in action would be the hardest possible line. I am >>>>>> quite happy to keep them alive but they can pay for their own >>>>>> plastic surgery to reassemble their face if they have failed >>>>>> to wear a seat belt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do something stupid and you have to take responsibility for >>>>>> your actions. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> US is particularly bad for this since airbag explosives >>>>>>>> are set to kill smaller women drivers just to save the big >>>>>>>> fat lard arse who CBA to use a seat belt. I don't think >>>>>>>> that is fair to women drivers YMMV. eg. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/south-carolina-driver-killed-exploding-air-bag-inflator-77230834 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> Although that particular one was due to using unstable ammonium nitrate >>>>>>>> as the propellant it was the *amount* of it that killed >>>>>>>> the driver. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do european air bags have less propellant? Is the amount >>>>>>> loaded on a per-country basis? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. US has a dodgy airbag policy resulting in a lot more >>>>>> fatalities particularly of smaller women who have to sit >>>>>> closer to the steering wheel. It is almost invariably that >>>>>> airbag that kills (or injures) them. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/crash-test-bias-how-male-focused-testing-puts-female-drivers-at-risk/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> Somewhat more detailed analysis of the US kill smaller females airbag >>>>>> policy here snappily titled "Survey of Driver Seating >>>>>> Positions in Relation to the Steering Wheel". Being too close >>>>>> to it when it goes off is a very bad thing: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.jstor.org/stable/44741050 >>>>>> >>>>>> Short form version it is a bad idea to be a female driver >>>>>> under 5'5". >>>>>> >>>>>> The same issue doesn't arise in Europe or Japan because seat >>>>>> belts are mandatory there (and enforced). >>>>> >>>>> Seat belt use is mandatory and enforced in California. >>>> >>>> And New York, and Connecticut, and New Jersey, and Massachusetts, >>>> and... >>>> >>>> <https://www.ghsa.org/sites/default/files/2020-08/SeatBeltLaws_Aug20.pdf>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> 49 states, 4 terriories, plus DC. (Exercise for the reader: find the >>>> missing state. Hint: it's not Texas, or Florida, or Alabama, or >>>> Oklahoma, or Mississippi, or Arizona, or Nevada, or New Mexico, or >>>> Virgina, or Montana, or Wyoming, or Alaska. Folks from the >>>> Northeastern US will guess immediately.) >>>> >>>>> Europeans have the strangest cartoon opinions about >>>>> non-europeans. >>>> >>>> No kidding. It's not like better info is hard to find--that >>>> reference came up second on DDG, and was the first one I looked >>>> at. >>>> >>>> They could even ask folks that live here, perish the thought. Seems >>>> like there's something psychological going on there. >> >>> USians go to europe a lot and seem to like the place. >> >> Funny you should mention that. I'm currently ensconced in an AirBnB in >> the Marais district of Paris with Mo and our beloved elder daughter. We >> spent the day walking around all over the place. We all love France-- >> #1 daughter comes a few times a year, and this is probably Mo's and my >> tenth time. We'll be here all week. ;) >> >> Hopefully the illegal nightclub across the street keeps the windows >> closed tonight--it was pretty loud last night. > > I've spent a few months total in France, but I didn't much like the > big cities. Too busy, grey, often rude. The French countryside, the > villages, are wonderful. Ditto England, although Oxford is nice.Maybe it's partly that the CCP virus has greatly reduced the number of tourists, but we've had nothing but friendly and helpful interactions with Parisians. At the Monoprix yesterday, the cashier noticed that a package of lardons in our cart looked a bit grey, and asked another fellow to replace it, which he did in very short order. Pretty nice of them. We haven't heard much English at all on the street.> > Say hi to Mo from me and Mo.She says 'Hi" to you folks too.>> >>> I wonder how many europeans visit the US, and especially how many get >>> away from the usual tourist traps. >> >> Well, there's a lot more of the United States than there is Western >> Europe, after all. (Not even counting Canada, my old stomping ground.) >> Plus all the media crap that we--most unfortunately--lob at them must >> be very confusing. Not even counting the CCP propaganda machine and its >> fellow travellers. >> > > Yeah, reading newspapers and web sites gives a very distorted view of > real people and places. > >>> We do have a lot of tiny, often Asian immigrant, women here. And a >>> few huge guys. Must be tough to design seats and seat belts and air >>> bags. >> >> Putting weight sensors in the seats is good. I'm egalitarian enough to >> think that bubbas, tiny women, and small children (including unborn >> ones) are all valuable. > > That's a nice, non-tribal attitude. > > Most everyone that I meet is cheerful and friendly. My street is maybe > 1/3 immigrants (emphasis on grossly overpaid googlers) and we have > block parties and drinks and pastry wars. We are the neighborhood > lemon and red-beans source. Many dogs and kids. Nobody talks politics > or any of that sort of media shrieking junk.Yup, same round our nabe, though we don't go in for pastry wars so much--it's more dog-kibitzing. ;) Fortunately, people are starting to notice the disconnect between the narrative and the reality on the ground. Cheers Phil Hobbs
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 14:23:03 -0500, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: >>> lørdag den 13. november 2021 kl. 19.37.32 UTC+1 skrev Phil Hobbs: >>>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 15:36:26 +0000, Martin Brown >>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 12/11/2021 14:33, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 09:50:01 +0000, Martin Brown >>>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would not ask mountain rescue teams to save people who wonder up into >>>>>>>> the mountain in flipflops using Google maps on their mobile phone to >>>>>>>> navigate and then get lost when the battery runs out. The mountain >>>>>>>> rescue teams are rather more forgiving but I think idiots who do that >>>>>>>> should be charged for the full cost of their rescue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would limit treatment to life saving only for people who refuse to >>>>>>>> wear seat belts and were mangled as a result of going through their >>>>>>>> windscreen. That is another idiotic decision some make. A few mangled >>>>>>>> survivors wondering around would do wonders for seat belt compliance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow, good thing you don't make health-care policy. Every ER would have >>>>>>> an intake moralist on staff who would decide who should be rejected >>>>>>> and die. >>>>>> >>>>>> Darwinism in action would be the hardest possible line. I am quite happy >>>>>> to keep them alive but they can pay for their own plastic surgery to >>>>>> reassemble their face if they have failed to wear a seat belt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do something stupid and you have to take responsibility for your actions. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> US is particularly bad for this since airbag explosives are set to kill >>>>>>>> smaller women drivers just to save the big fat lard arse who CBA to use >>>>>>>> a seat belt. I don't think that is fair to women drivers YMMV. eg. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/south-carolina-driver-killed-exploding-air-bag-inflator-77230834 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Although that particular one was due to using unstable ammonium nitrate >>>>>>>> as the propellant it was the *amount* of it that killed the driver. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do european air bags have less propellant? Is the amount loaded on a >>>>>>> per-country basis? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. US has a dodgy airbag policy resulting in a lot more fatalities >>>>>> particularly of smaller women who have to sit closer to the steering >>>>>> wheel. It is almost invariably that airbag that kills (or injures) them. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/crash-test-bias-how-male-focused-testing-puts-female-drivers-at-risk/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Somewhat more detailed analysis of the US kill smaller females airbag >>>>>> policy here snappily titled "Survey of Driver Seating Positions in >>>>>> Relation to the Steering Wheel". Being too close to it when it goes off >>>>>> is a very bad thing: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.jstor.org/stable/44741050 >>>>>> >>>>>> Short form version it is a bad idea to be a female driver under 5'5". >>>>>> >>>>>> The same issue doesn't arise in Europe or Japan because seat belts are >>>>>> mandatory there (and enforced). >>>>> >>>>> Seat belt use is mandatory and enforced in California. >>>> And New York, and Connecticut, and New Jersey, and Massachusetts, and... >>>> >>>> <https://www.ghsa.org/sites/default/files/2020-08/SeatBeltLaws_Aug20.pdf>. >>>> >>>> 49 states, 4 terriories, plus DC. (Exercise for the reader: find the >>>> missing state. Hint: it's not Texas, or Florida, or Alabama, or >>>> Oklahoma, or Mississippi, or Arizona, or Nevada, or New Mexico, or >>>> Virgina, or Montana, or Wyoming, or Alaska. Folks from the Northeastern >>>> US will guess immediately.) >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States#Laws_by_state_and_territory >>> >>> are the size of the fines real? most seem very low, here not wearing a seatbelt is minimum ~$230 >>> someone under 15 without a seatbelt is ~$300 plus a point on the license for the driver >> >> What's that got to do with it? I don't remember the last time I saw >> somebody driving with no seatbelt. >> >> MB seems to think that it's all unbelted bubbas over here. That's >> strange--he seems pretty sane otherwise. >> >> C'mon over here, Martin--We'll show you a good time and get some good >> old Western Hemisphere air into you, lad. ;) > > Is New York in the Western Hemisphere? > > >Last time I checked. ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
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Flyguy wrote:> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 8:45:59 AM UTC-8, > jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> What do you think this is? [1] >> >> mech_eng_jw.pdf >> >> Or maybe >> >> datasheet.pdf ? >> >> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between >> pages? You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >> >> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, >> make you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to >> see what they have? >> >> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >> available in stock anywhere? That's typically european. >> >> >> >> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >> >> >> -- >> >> Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that >> instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable >> when he had lost it. > > You are obviously too young to remember the good old days when we had > to have datasheets and databooks mailed to us. And, then, you had to > have a room full of bookshelves to hold them all.I remember those days very fondly. When I was a young teenager, I had a subscription to Motorola Update. It didn't cost a lot, and every quarter I got a good-sized box (about 1.5 cubic feet IIRC) jammed full of Motorola's latest databooks. The transistor and linear books were familiar, but there were also (to me) exotic things such as TTL register files, bit-slice processors, MECL III logic, MOS memory, MNOS nonvolatile storage, all sorts of stuff. Made me feel like I could become a real designer, though I knew I wasn't, yet. I still have probably 30 selected databooks on my shelves. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
