Cydrome Leader <presence@mungepanix.com> wrote:> Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 07:57:34 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cydrome >> Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in <smd9le$m7r$1@reader1.panix.com>: >> >>>Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin >>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >>>> <268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: >>>> >>>>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >>>>><terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>>>> > What do you think this is? [1] >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Or maybe >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > datasheet.pdf ? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>>>> > You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>>>> > you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>>>> > they have? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>>>> > product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>>>> > available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>>>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>>>>> >>>>>>While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >>>>> >>>>>How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >>>> >>>> I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. >>>> What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf >>>> That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. >>>> >>>> w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 >>>> ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 >>>> experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf >>>> >>>> # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf >>>> /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> No database needed >>>> # locate -i shelter | grep -i stones >>>> /mnt/sda3/audio/other/rolling_stones/The_Rolling_Stones-Gimme_Shelter.mp3 >>>> >>>> etc >>> >>>This is the perfect example of why companies and people get hacked so >>>easily. Can anyone spot the issue? >> >> No idea, been root on all my puters since 1998, only data I ever lost was when I dropped a harddisk >> In the early days ran the servers (http ftp) at home, hundreds attacks every day, none succeeded. >> Have a large iptables file... >> Now the server is at godaddy, happy they do the checking. >> And everything here is backed up anyways. >> It is hard to hack a 3TB disk when it is off. > > No idea at all? How about knowing someting is bad and doing it anyways? > > Experian or capital one might be hiring, they'd like your type.colonial pipeline might be looking for some new "talent" too.
rant: filenames
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On 11/8/2021 8:03 PM, John Larkin wrote:> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 23:00:51 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader > <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote: > >> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >>> What do you think this is? [1] >>> >>> mech_eng_jw.pdf >>> >>> Or maybe >>> >>> datasheet.pdf ? >>> >>> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>> >>> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>> they have? >> >> Socialist habits of everybody having a useless job shuffling unneccessary >> papers and adhering to dated, rigid processes, lack of creativity, no >> gains from improving processes, shitty software for managing >> documentation. >> >>> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>> available in stock anywhere? That's typically european. >> >> Sounds like german engineering- why use two parts when you can use three? >> >>> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >> >> Highly incomplete datasheets that are full of cruft annoy me. Had make >> phone calls to see how long the leads are that are potted into a sensor. >> 2.5meters, apparently. That seems like a big detail to forget to include. > > One recent datasheet has footnote superscripts on several of the > specs... but no corresponding footnotes. > > LoL means Lots of Luck. >TI application notes have helpful filenames like slup340.pdf, hey off the top of your head what's slup340.pdf about?
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On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 18:06:00 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in <smeda8$pro$1@reader1.panix.com>:>> No idea, been root on all my puters since 1998, only data I ever lost was when I dropped a harddisk >> In the early days ran the servers (http ftp) at home, hundreds attacks every day, none succeeded. >> Have a large iptables file... >> Now the server is at godaddy, happy they do the checking. >> And everything here is backed up anyways. >> It is hard to hack a 3TB disk when it is off. > >No idea at all? How about knowing someting is bad and doing it anyways?Being root? Do you drive your car from the passengers seat and hop over every turn or situation? You think that is safe? You are clueles.>Experian or capital one might be hiring, they'd like your type.You are just babbling, have no clue. Show us some code you wrote or else shut up. Or even electronics you designed. companies and people get hacked because in 3 weeks you can become a sysadm and web developer by following an online course. I remember in the old days asking what was it 'Hacktic' or something like that to attack my server to see if they could get in I watched them trying.. No go. OTOH I know Big Brothel is of course in full control of every thing I do, google tells them everything I searched for, banks and paypal tells them everything I bought online, and governments can take with one law everything you have away. and you fear HACKERS??? LOL
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On 11/9/2021 2:57 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote:> Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin >> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >> <268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: >> >>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >>> <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>>> What do you think this is? [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> Or maybe >>>>>> >>>>>> datasheet.pdf ? >>>>>> >>>>>> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>>> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>>> >>>>>> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>>> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>>> they have? >>>>>> >>>>>> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>>> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>>> available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>>> >>>> While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >>> >>> How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >> >> I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. >> What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf >> That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. >> >> w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf >> >> # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf >> /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >> >> >> No database needed >> # locate -i shelter | grep -i stones >> /mnt/sda3/audio/other/rolling_stones/The_Rolling_Stones-Gimme_Shelter.mp3 >> >> etc > > This is the perfect example of why companies and people get hacked so > easily. Can anyone spot the issue? >Their employees to overrated slop like the Stones? Hard to believe they get listed in the same universe as the Beatles, they were a sloppy bar band that got really lucky.
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On 11/9/2021 2:09 PM, bitrex wrote:> On 11/9/2021 2:57 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote: >> Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin >>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >>> <268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: >>> >>>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >>>> <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>>>> What do you think this is? [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or maybe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> datasheet.pdf ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>>>> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>>>> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>>>> they have? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>>>> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>>>> available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>>>> >>>>> While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a >>>>> datasheet easily. >>>> >>>> How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >>> >>> I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. >>> What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and >>> then add __number.pdf >>> That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. >>> >>> w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 >>> ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >>> >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 >>> experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf >>> >>> >>> # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf >>> /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> No database needed >>> # locate -i shelter | grep -i stones >>> /mnt/sda3/audio/other/rolling_stones/The_Rolling_Stones-Gimme_Shelter.mp3 >>> >>> >>> etc >> >> This is the perfect example of why companies and people get hacked so >> easily. Can anyone spot the issue? >> > > Their employees to overrated slop like the Stones? Hard to believe they > get listed in the same universe as the Beatles, they were a sloppy bar > band that got really lucky.Listen to, rather
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On 11/9/2021 2:07 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:> On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 18:06:00 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cydrome > Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in <smeda8$pro$1@reader1.panix.com>: > >>> No idea, been root on all my puters since 1998, only data I ever lost was when I dropped a harddisk >>> In the early days ran the servers (http ftp) at home, hundreds attacks every day, none succeeded. >>> Have a large iptables file... >>> Now the server is at godaddy, happy they do the checking. >>> And everything here is backed up anyways. >>> It is hard to hack a 3TB disk when it is off. >> >> No idea at all? How about knowing someting is bad and doing it anyways? > > Being root? > Do you drive your car from the passengers seat and hop over every turn or situation? > You think that is safe? > You are clueles. > >> Experian or capital one might be hiring, they'd like your type. > > You are just babbling, have no clue. > Show us some code you wrote or else shut up. > Or even electronics you designed. > > > companies and people get hacked because in 3 weeks you can become a sysadm and web developer by following an online course. > > I remember in the old days asking what was it 'Hacktic' or something like that to attack my server to see if they could get > in > I watched them trying.. No go. > > OTOH I know Big Brothel is of course in full control of every thing I do, google tells them everything I searched for, > banks and paypal tells them everything I bought online, and governments can take with one law everything you have away. > and you fear HACKERS??? > LOL > >You listen to the Rolling Stones voluntarily, get outta here granpa.
Reply by ●November 9, 20212021-11-09
On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 14:09:45 -0500) it happened bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in <ZHziJ.18673$3q9.18187@fx47.iad>:>On 11/9/2021 2:57 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote:<nothing>>Their employees to overrated slop like the Stones? Hard to believe they >get listed in the same universe as the Beatles, they were a sloppy bar >band that got really lucky. >No idea what syndrome leader suffers from.. he should see a shrink. But as far as the Stones go, there is a lot of documentary now on the air and I recorded some. At some point it is clearly drugs addiction LSD cocaine what not, but on the other hand they can really deliver at times (I mean music). I have been around and that drugs scene and what can happen with people is very familiar to me. Never got into it much myself, but after viewing that documentary wondered if I should not ;-) I mean they were advertising it really. You need a strong will to stay or steer clear. They do have some very good music really. And Beatles have made some crap. Look for the good. Same with electronics, good designs bad designs.
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On 11/9/2021 2:27 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:> On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 14:09:45 -0500) it happened bitrex > <user@example.net> wrote in <ZHziJ.18673$3q9.18187@fx47.iad>: > >> On 11/9/2021 2:57 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote: > <nothing> > >> Their employees to overrated slop like the Stones? Hard to believe they >> get listed in the same universe as the Beatles, they were a sloppy bar >> band that got really lucky. >> > > No idea what syndrome leader suffers from.. he should see a shrink. > > But as far as the Stones go, there is a lot of documentary now on the air and I recorded some. > At some point it is clearly drugs addiction LSD cocaine what not, but on the other hand > they can really deliver at times (I mean music). > I have been around and that drugs scene and what can happen with people is very familiar to me. > Never got into it much myself, but after viewing that documentary wondered if I should not ;-) > I mean they were advertising it really. > You need a strong will to stay or steer clear. > They do have some very good music really. > And Beatles have made some crap. > Look for the good. > Same with electronics, good designs bad designs. > > >How they ever got picked up and signed based on the sloppy covers they were doing early on is one of those little mysteries people who weren't around for the era may never understand...
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 09:22:24 -0500, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> John Larkin wrote: >>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >>> <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>>> What do you think this is? [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> Or maybe >>>>>> >>>>>> datasheet.pdf ? >>>>>> >>>>>> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>>> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>>> >>>>>> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>>> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>>> they have? >>>>>> >>>>>> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>>> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>>> available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>>> >>>> While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >>> >>> How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >>> >> >> I tend to get pretty floral about parts that aren't super familiar. For >> instance, I have an op amp datasheet named >> >> OPA818decomp2.7GHzGBW_2.2nVnoiseFETinput2pfCin1400VusSevenBucks.pdf. >> >> Makes it a breeze trawling through my ~/electronics/datasheets/ >> directory tree looking for stuff. >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs > > But you're one of those people who know how to type. > > >Well, to read it you just type 'okular OPA818*'. ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
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On 11/9/2021 21:37, bitrex wrote:> On 11/9/2021 2:27 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 14:09:45 -0500) it happened bitrex >> <user@example.net> wrote in <ZHziJ.18673$3q9.18187@fx47.iad>: >> >>> On 11/9/2021 2:57 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote: >> <nothing> >> >>> Their employees to overrated slop like the Stones? Hard to believe they >>> get listed in the same universe as the Beatles, they were a sloppy bar >>> band that got really lucky. >>> >> >> No idea what syndrome leader suffers from.. he should see a shrink. >> >> But as far as the Stones go, there is a lot of documentary now on the >> air and I recorded some. >> At some point it is clearly drugs addiction LSD cocaine what not, but >> on the other hand >> they can really deliver at times (I mean music). >> I have been around and that drugs scene and what can happen with >> people is very familiar to me. >> Never got into it much myself, but after viewing that documentary >> wondered if I should not ;-) >> I mean they were advertising it really. >> You need a strong will to stay or steer clear. >> They do have some very good music really. >> And Beatles have made some crap. >> Look for the good. >> Same with electronics, good designs bad designs. >> >> >> > > How they ever got picked up and signed based on the sloppy covers they > were doing early on is one of those little mysteries people who weren't > around for the era may never understand...Someone must have seen the potential Mick had to be a star I suppose. Does not look like an easy thing to do, even the Beatles did not have much to be given the start to eventually deliver the Lennon-McCartney songwriting, by far the greatest in human history. The Stones have also written some huge songs, perhaps more than 10, which is a lot. Much of it must have been down to luck of course, things like that do not happen without luck. Like John and Paul meeting etc.
