On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 23:00:51 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> What do you think this is? [1] >> >> mech_eng_jw.pdf >> >> Or maybe >> >> datasheet.pdf ? >> >> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >> >> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >> they have? > >Socialist habits of everybody having a useless job shuffling unneccessary >papers and adhering to dated, rigid processes, lack of creativity, no >gains from improving processes, shitty software for managing >documentation. > >> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >> available in stock anywhere? That's typically european. > >Sounds like german engineering- why use two parts when you can use three? > >> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay > >Highly incomplete datasheets that are full of cruft annoy me. Had make >phone calls to see how long the leads are that are potted into a sensor. >2.5meters, apparently. That seems like a big detail to forget to include.One recent datasheet has footnote superscripts on several of the specs... but no corresponding footnotes. LoL means Lots of Luck. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
rant: filenames
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Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin > <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in > <268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: > >>On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >><terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>> > What do you think this is? [1] >>>> > >>>> > mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>> > >>>> > Or maybe >>>> > >>>> > datasheet.pdf ? >>>> > >>>> > And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>> > You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>> > >>>> > And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>> > you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>> > they have? >>>> > >>>> > And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>> > product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>> > available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>> >>>While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >> >>How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? > > I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. > What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf > That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. > > w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf > > # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf > /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf > > > No database needed > # locate -i shelter | grep -i stones > /mnt/sda3/audio/other/rolling_stones/The_Rolling_Stones-Gimme_Shelter.mp3 > > etcThis is the perfect example of why companies and people get hacked so easily. Can anyone spot the issue?
Reply by ●November 9, 20212021-11-09
On 2021-11-09, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin ><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in ><268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: > >>On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >><terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>> > What do you think this is? [1] >>>> > >>>> > mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>> > >>>> > Or maybe >>>> > >>>> > datasheet.pdf ? >>>> > >>>> > And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>> > You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>> > >>>> > And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>> > you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>> > they have? >>>> > >>>> > And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>> > product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>> > available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>> >>>While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >> >>How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? > > I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. > What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf > That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. > > w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf > > # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf > /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf > > > No database neededrm /var/cache/locate/locatedb then try again. -- Jasen.
Reply by ●November 9, 20212021-11-09
On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 09:57:31 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote in <smdgmb$l91$1@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org>:>On 2021-11-09, Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin >><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >><268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: >> >>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >>><terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>> > What do you think this is? [1] >>>>> > >>>>> > mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>> > >>>>> > Or maybe >>>>> > >>>>> > datasheet.pdf ? >>>>> > >>>>> > And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>> > You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>> > >>>>> > And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>> > you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>> > they have? >>>>> > >>>>> > And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>> > product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>> > available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>>> >>>>While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >>> >>>How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >> >> I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. >> What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf >> That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. >> >> w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 >> ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 >> experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf >> >> # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf >> /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >> >> >> No database needed > >rm /var/cache/locate/locatedb > >then try again.Sure: # ls -rtl /var/cache/locate/locatedb ls: cannot access /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or director # locate -i beatles | grep -i guitar /mnt/sda3/audio/other/beatles/07_-_while_my_guitar_gently_weeps_192_lame_cbr.mp3 /root/chacha/2GB_SDcard/Music/other/beatles/07_-_while_my_guitar_gently_weeps_192_lame_cbr.mp3 Your linux knowledge is incomplete And it is evil to tell people to rm things, any idea how many read this? Now piss off.
Reply by ●November 9, 20212021-11-09
On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 5:14:05 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:> > How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ?If it works for you, use it. I simply described my method. I'm currently building an index for all the PDF files I have for test equipment. They are sorted by brand, then model number but some cover more than one model so the HTML base index lets me find what I want with a couple clicks. I can describe the item in detail. on the index pages. I have 34,293 files in 4,030 folders (186 GB) of manuals HP/Agilent/Keysight has 6,183 files by itself. I have 5,866 datasheets, in 733 folders (3.80 GB), so that needs work as well. I save every PDF or other document that I find for future use. Sometimes it takes hours to locate something online when it is misnamed or misspelled, so why do it again? BTW, www.archive.org has scans of a lot of old databooks that you can download for free. They are also in the process of scanning and processing all the manuals from Manuals Plus.
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On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 07:57:34 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in <smd9le$m7r$1@reader1.panix.com>:>Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin >> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >> <268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: >> >>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >>><terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>> > What do you think this is? [1] >>>>> > >>>>> > mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>> > >>>>> > Or maybe >>>>> > >>>>> > datasheet.pdf ? >>>>> > >>>>> > And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>> > You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>> > >>>>> > And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>> > you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>> > they have? >>>>> > >>>>> > And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>> > product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>> > available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>>> >>>>While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >>> >>>How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >> >> I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. >> What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf >> That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. >> >> w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 >> ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 >> experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf >> >> # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf >> /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >> >> >> No database needed >> # locate -i shelter | grep -i stones >> /mnt/sda3/audio/other/rolling_stones/The_Rolling_Stones-Gimme_Shelter.mp3 >> >> etc > >This is the perfect example of why companies and people get hacked so >easily. Can anyone spot the issue?No idea, been root on all my puters since 1998, only data I ever lost was when I dropped a harddisk In the early days ran the servers (http ftp) at home, hundreds attacks every day, none succeeded. Have a large iptables file... Now the server is at godaddy, happy they do the checking. And everything here is backed up anyways. It is hard to hack a 3TB disk when it is off. companies and people get hacked because in 3 weeks you can become a sysadm and web developer by following an online course. I remember in the old days asking what was it 'Hacktic' or something like that to attack my server to see if they could get in I watched them trying.. No go. OTOH I know Big Brothel is of course in full control of every thing I do, google tells them everything I searched for, banks and paypal tells them everything I bought online, and governments can take with one law everything you have away. and you fear HACKERS??? LOL
Reply by ●November 9, 20212021-11-09
John Larkin wrote:> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell > <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>> What do you think this is? [1] >>>> >>>> mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>> >>>> Or maybe >>>> >>>> datasheet.pdf ? >>>> >>>> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>> >>>> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>> they have? >>>> >>>> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>> available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>> >>>> >>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>> Bad Europeans bad. >> >> While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. > > How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >I tend to get pretty floral about parts that aren't super familiar. For instance, I have an op amp datasheet named OPA818decomp2.7GHzGBW_2.2nVnoiseFETinput2pfCin1400VusSevenBucks.pdf. Makes it a breeze trawling through my ~/electronics/datasheets/ directory tree looking for stuff. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 02:33:35 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 5:14:05 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote: >> >> How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? > >If it works for you, use it.I want TI to use it. Once we officially put a part in stock, it gets its own PDATA folder, with data sheets, pictures, app notes, our measurements, whatever we know. -- Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable when he had lost it.
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 09:22:24 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>John Larkin wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >> <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>> What do you think this is? [1] >>>>> >>>>> mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Or maybe >>>>> >>>>> datasheet.pdf ? >>>>> >>>>> And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>> You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>> >>>>> And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>> you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>> they have? >>>>> >>>>> And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>> product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>> available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>> >>> While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >> >> How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >> > >I tend to get pretty floral about parts that aren't super familiar. For >instance, I have an op amp datasheet named > >OPA818decomp2.7GHzGBW_2.2nVnoiseFETinput2pfCin1400VusSevenBucks.pdf. > >Makes it a breeze trawling through my ~/electronics/datasheets/ >directory tree looking for stuff. > >Cheers > >Phil HobbsBut you're one of those people who know how to type. -- Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was always most valuable when he had lost it.
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Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:> On a sunny day (Tue, 9 Nov 2021 07:57:34 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cydrome > Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote in <smd9le$m7r$1@reader1.panix.com>: > >>Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:13:38 -0800) it happened John Larkin >>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >>> <268jogtv2ojg9auso94lqlr25pj5u1liku@4ax.com>: >>> >>>>On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:01:17 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell >>>><terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Monday, November 8, 2021 at 3:31:37 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote: >>>>>> On 11/8/2021 18:45, highland technology wrote: >>>>>> > What do you think this is? [1] >>>>>> > >>>>>> > mech_eng_jw.pdf >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or maybe >>>>>> > >>>>>> > datasheet.pdf ? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > And why do some PDFs page continuously and some jump between pages? >>>>>> > You can't even see all of the stuff on the jumpers. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > And why do some web sites, especially Asian and European ones, make >>>>>> > you sequentially open a huge list of randomly named PDFs to see what >>>>>> > they have? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > And why do some people use one data sheet to cover their entire >>>>>> > product line, with complicated made-up part numbers, most not >>>>>> > available in stock anywhere? That's typically European. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > [1] it's a data sheet for a relay >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Look at how Texas Instruments' pdf files are named indeed. >>>>>> Bad Europeans bad. >>>>> >>>>>While confusing, TI's system allows you to keep older versions of a datasheet easily. >>>> >>>>How about TI_LM317_A.pdf ? >>> >>> I download a lot of science pdf files that just have some weird number. >>> What I do now is copy the paper description in readable english and then add __number.pdf >>> That way I can use 'locate' on my computers to find a subject. >>> >>> w-r--r-- 1 root root 7934695 Oct 17 06:38 >>> ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3091163 Oct 26 06:08 >>> experimental_realization_of_a_Fresnel_hologram_as_a_super_telescope__s41598-021-99955-w.pdf >>> >>> # locate -i retinal | grep -i pdf >>> /root/download/html/ancestral_circuits_for_vertebrate_color_vision_emerge_at_the_first_retinal_synapse__sciadv.abj6815.pdf >>> >>> >>> No database needed >>> # locate -i shelter | grep -i stones >>> /mnt/sda3/audio/other/rolling_stones/The_Rolling_Stones-Gimme_Shelter.mp3 >>> >>> etc >> >>This is the perfect example of why companies and people get hacked so >>easily. Can anyone spot the issue? > > No idea, been root on all my puters since 1998, only data I ever lost was when I dropped a harddisk > In the early days ran the servers (http ftp) at home, hundreds attacks every day, none succeeded. > Have a large iptables file... > Now the server is at godaddy, happy they do the checking. > And everything here is backed up anyways. > It is hard to hack a 3TB disk when it is off.No idea at all? How about knowing someting is bad and doing it anyways? Experian or capital one might be hiring, they'd like your type.> companies and people get hacked because in 3 weeks you can become a sysadm and web developer by following an online course. > > I remember in the old days asking what was it 'Hacktic' or something like that to attack my server to see if they could get in > I watched them trying.. No go. > > OTOH I know Big Brothel is of course in full control of every thing I do, google tells them everything I searched for, > banks and paypal tells them everything I bought online, and governments can take with one law everything you have away. > and you fear HACKERS??? > LOL > >
