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Stability of older Orcad/PSpice combos?

Started by Joerg April 24, 2011
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:51:09 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:41:56 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> Charlie E. wrote: >>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 00:24:46 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:35:21 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> Then I must continue the crash -> re-install game. >>>>>> I've never had to re-install but the binaries are on a server (floating >>>>>> licenses and all that). Then again, we don't use P-Spice anymore, either. >>>>> It sounds like a hardware problem like not enough RAM, or a dying >>>>> hard drive. If you don't have enough RAM, the drive is constantly >>>>> reading and writing swap files. That pushes the hardware to it's limits >>>>> and causes more errors. Also, it may be old enough to have failing >>>>> electrolytics on the motherboard. I recently picked up three Acer >>>>> Aspire L100 mini desktops with bad capacitors. All three were running >>>>> 512 MB of RAM. One also had a bad hard drive. There are just over a >>>>> year old. >>>> Actually Jeorg, it almost sounds like you have multiple versions >>>> installed, in different locations, and the registrations keep getting >>>> futzed up. You might just try to run each of the applications >>>> individuatlly directly from My Computer, as this will self-register >>>> teh applications. I used to have a batch file that ran each exe with >>>> a registrations keyword, but can't find it now... :-( >>>> >>> There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes >>> I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite >>> protected for whatever reason). >> >> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make >> difference :-) >> > >Lutheran. Of course :-)
More like "last".
Jim Thompson wrote:
> > Joerg wrote: > > > >There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes > >I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite > >protected for whatever reason). > > Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make > difference :-)
I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I suggested a while back. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid&#4294967295; on it, because it's Teflon coated.
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> Joerg wrote: >> > >> >There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes >> >I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite >> >protected for whatever reason). >> >> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make >> difference :-) > > > I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I >suggested a while back.
Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Remember: Once you go over the hill, you pick up speed
Jim Thompson wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >Jim Thompson wrote: > >> > >> Joerg wrote: > >> > > >> >There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes > >> >I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite > >> >protected for whatever reason). > >> > >> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make > >> difference :-) > > > > > > I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I > >suggested a while back. > > Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-)
That's an understatement. :( Revo will let you remove all traces of a program from the hard drive, including things that are buried in the registry. I use it to clean up donated computers. Some programs have over 3,000 registry entries that aren't removed by using the uninstall routine that comes with the software. You load and run Revo, then click on the program you want to delete. Click 'Uninstall', and the built in unistaller runs the program's unistall routine. Then click 'next', and 'delete' as prompted to clean up the registry and remove empty folders. It's so simple that even dimboobie could run it. Maybe even Sloman or Maynard. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid&#4294967295; on it, because it's Teflon coated.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>> There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes >>>>> I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite >>>>> protected for whatever reason). >>>> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make >>>> difference :-) >>> >>> I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I >>> suggested a while back. >> Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-) > > > That's an understatement. :( > > Revo will let you remove all traces of a program from the hard drive, > including things that are buried in the registry. I use it to clean up > donated computers. Some programs have over 3,000 registry entries that > aren't removed by using the uninstall routine that comes with the > software. You load and run Revo, then click on the program you want to > delete. Click 'Uninstall', and the built in unistaller runs the > program's unistall routine. Then click 'next', and 'delete' as prompted > to clean up the registry and remove empty folders. ...
Yup. In my case that would almost be like taking a 9mm and *KABLAM* ... look, dudes, it's clean now! Unfortunately that will have also killed the license. Which would be just great :-) [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Joerg wrote:
> > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Jim Thompson wrote: > >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Jim Thompson wrote: > >>>> Joerg wrote: > >>>>> There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes > >>>>> I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite > >>>>> protected for whatever reason). > >>>> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make > >>>> difference :-) > >>> > >>> I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I > >>> suggested a while back. > >> Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-) > > > > > > That's an understatement. :( > > > > Revo will let you remove all traces of a program from the hard drive, > > including things that are buried in the registry. I use it to clean up > > donated computers. Some programs have over 3,000 registry entries that > > aren't removed by using the uninstall routine that comes with the > > software. You load and run Revo, then click on the program you want to > > delete. Click 'Uninstall', and the built in unistaller runs the > > program's unistall routine. Then click 'next', and 'delete' as prompted > > to clean up the registry and remove empty folders. ... > > Yup. In my case that would almost be like taking a 9mm and *KABLAM* ... > look, dudes, it's clean now!
Your igonrance is showing. :(
> Unfortunately that will have also killed the license. Which would be > just great :-)
And you have no clue how to recover that first so you keep wasting by time reinstalling it, over and over. That's called insanity. :( -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid&#4294967295; on it, because it's Teflon coated.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> Joerg wrote: >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>>> There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes >>>>>>> I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite >>>>>>> protected for whatever reason). >>>>>> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make >>>>>> difference :-) >>>>> I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I >>>>> suggested a while back. >>>> Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-) >>> >>> That's an understatement. :( >>> >>> Revo will let you remove all traces of a program from the hard drive, >>> including things that are buried in the registry. I use it to clean up >>> donated computers. Some programs have over 3,000 registry entries that >>> aren't removed by using the uninstall routine that comes with the >>> software. You load and run Revo, then click on the program you want to >>> delete. Click 'Uninstall', and the built in unistaller runs the >>> program's unistall routine. Then click 'next', and 'delete' as prompted >>> to clean up the registry and remove empty folders. ... >> Yup. In my case that would almost be like taking a 9mm and *KABLAM* ... >> look, dudes, it's clean now! > > > Your igonrance is showing. :( >
No, it's a matter of caution. It is not prudent to hose license files off the disk.
> >> Unfortunately that will have also killed the license. Which would be >> just great :-) > > > And you have no clue how to recover that first so you keep wasting by > time reinstalling it, over and over. That's called insanity. :( >
This is the method the manufacturer prescribed. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Joerg wrote:
> > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Joerg wrote: > >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >>> Jim Thompson wrote: > >>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: > >>>>>> Joerg wrote: > >>>>>>> There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes > >>>>>>> I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite > >>>>>>> protected for whatever reason). > >>>>>> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make > >>>>>> difference :-) > >>>>> I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I > >>>>> suggested a while back. > >>>> Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-) > >>> > >>> That's an understatement. :( > >>> > >>> Revo will let you remove all traces of a program from the hard drive, > >>> including things that are buried in the registry. I use it to clean up > >>> donated computers. Some programs have over 3,000 registry entries that > >>> aren't removed by using the uninstall routine that comes with the > >>> software. You load and run Revo, then click on the program you want to > >>> delete. Click 'Uninstall', and the built in unistaller runs the > >>> program's unistall routine. Then click 'next', and 'delete' as prompted > >>> to clean up the registry and remove empty folders. ... > >> Yup. In my case that would almost be like taking a 9mm and *KABLAM* ... > >> look, dudes, it's clean now! > > > > > > Your igonrance is showing. :( > > > > No, it's a matter of caution. It is not prudent to hose license files > off the disk.
Whatever. It's still a huge waste of time. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid&#4294967295; on it, because it's Teflon coated.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> Joerg wrote: >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >>>>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>>>>> There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes >>>>>>>>> I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite >>>>>>>>> protected for whatever reason). >>>>>>>> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make >>>>>>>> difference :-) >>>>>>> I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I >>>>>>> suggested a while back. >>>>>> Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-) >>>>> That's an understatement. :( >>>>> >>>>> Revo will let you remove all traces of a program from the hard drive, >>>>> including things that are buried in the registry. I use it to clean up >>>>> donated computers. Some programs have over 3,000 registry entries that >>>>> aren't removed by using the uninstall routine that comes with the >>>>> software. You load and run Revo, then click on the program you want to >>>>> delete. Click 'Uninstall', and the built in unistaller runs the >>>>> program's unistall routine. Then click 'next', and 'delete' as prompted >>>>> to clean up the registry and remove empty folders. ... >>>> Yup. In my case that would almost be like taking a 9mm and *KABLAM* ... >>>> look, dudes, it's clean now! >>> >>> Your igonrance is showing. :( >>> >> No, it's a matter of caution. It is not prudent to hose license files >> off the disk. > > > Whatever. It's still a huge waste of time. >
You tend to conclude prematurely without knowing the required details. Getting the license manager back up and running with this software can be a major waste to time. While my file/directory wipe by hand took, what, 60 seconds? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
Joerg wrote:
> > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Joerg wrote: > >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >>> Joerg wrote: > >>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: > >>>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:34:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >>>>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: > >>>>>>>> Joerg wrote: > >>>>>>>>> There is only on directory that holds the software. Whenever it crashes > >>>>>>>>> I uninstall, wipe what's possible in that directory (some stuff is rite > >>>>>>>>> protected for whatever reason). > >>>>>>>> Is that Mormon or Catholic or Baptist "rite" protected? It'll make > >>>>>>>> difference :-) > >>>>>>> I guess he's too stubborn to use the free 'Revo Uninstaller' that I > >>>>>>> suggested a while back. > >>>>>> Joerg does tend toward stubborn ;-) > >>>>> That's an understatement. :( > >>>>> > >>>>> Revo will let you remove all traces of a program from the hard drive, > >>>>> including things that are buried in the registry. I use it to clean up > >>>>> donated computers. Some programs have over 3,000 registry entries that > >>>>> aren't removed by using the uninstall routine that comes with the > >>>>> software. You load and run Revo, then click on the program you want to > >>>>> delete. Click 'Uninstall', and the built in unistaller runs the > >>>>> program's unistall routine. Then click 'next', and 'delete' as prompted > >>>>> to clean up the registry and remove empty folders. ... > >>>> Yup. In my case that would almost be like taking a 9mm and *KABLAM* ... > >>>> look, dudes, it's clean now! > >>> > >>> Your igonrance is showing. :( > >>> > >> No, it's a matter of caution. It is not prudent to hose license files > >> off the disk. > > > > > > Whatever. It's still a huge waste of time. > > > > You tend to conclude prematurely without knowing the required details. > Getting the license manager back up and running with this software can > be a major waste to time. While my file/directory wipe by hand took, > what, 60 seconds?
Times how many hundred reinstalls? -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid&#4294967295; on it, because it's Teflon coated.