On 25/11/2021 17:17, Rick C wrote:> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 7:08:18 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote: >> On 23/11/2021 13:53, Rick C wrote: >>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-4, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> T <T...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/17/21 07:57, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>>>> Some of the so-called 'fresheners' are just as bad as the perfumes for >>>>>> triggering allergies. >>>>> >>>>> Fabreeze is a horrible allergin >> It is a complex mixture of chemicals designed to disguise and mask BO. >> They are usually *very* careful to avoid any allergenic compounds. >>>> There is good evidence that it kills dogs and creates neurological >>>> disturbances in cats. >>> >>> "neurological disturbances in cats" - How can you tell? >> Cats are borderline psychotic at the best of times... >> More so for US style "house cats" that are never allowed out. >> >> It is paranoid new age word salad against chemicals. >> >> I am no fan of "air fresheners" by the way - they seek to disguise what >> could be important warning signs of things that could be potentially >> dangerous like the smell of rotting food or leaking drains for example. >> >> If you are really allergic to something in the air then the effect is >> not unlike CS gas or methyl mercaptan (smell of gas). Eyes or lungs on >> fire streaming with tears almost blinded and possibly vomiting as well. >> If you are really out of luck throat swelling can cause breathing >> difficulties and intervention with an epipen may be needed. >> >> A small number of very dangerous allergic sensitisers produce no effect >> at all the very first time that you are exposed. The second time around >> is something of a wake up call. >> >> Think hayfever on steroids and you get the general idea. >> >> What she & T are describing is much more like a high functioning autism >> response to complex smells which is entirely different to an allergy. >> The irrational obsession with perceived "toxins" is also consistent. > > The terminology might be a bit extreme, but given the symptoms described, it sounds pretty severe. I have no idea why you label it an "autism response".Perhaps you should read some of the links I have already posted then your ignorance would not be so great. Autism is strongly linked with an enhanced sense of bitter tastes and distorted overwhelming smells. Problems with scrambled sense of smell/taste are likely to get worse now because of Covid-19 as well. A small proportion of people who lose their sense of smell end up in a crazy world where most things smell bad. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53903804 Wine tasters and whiskey blenders are very worried since it could easily take away their livelihood. An expert human sense of smell can still beat the very best analytical kit for that particular task.> I think you are in denial because the symptoms are not yours. I share some of the responses although on an entirely different level, so I have no trouble believing they are real.Panic induced responses can feel extremely real to the sufferer. Hyperventilating being by far the most commonly experienced one. I was allergic to grass pollen when I was young. Not in a dangerous way but enough that I was used to doing summer exams barely able to read the questions. I know several beekeepers who have become properly allergic to bee stings over a lifetime of keeping bees. Those are true allergies.> Give it whatever label you wish, the symptoms aren't changed by labels.I'm trying to help them understand their condition. If you know what you are dealing with it helps a lot. This neurotoxin stuff is complete and utter new age bollocks with bells on! Do you *really* believe that fabreeze kills dogs and makes cats go mad? (their claim with no evidence at *ALL* to back it up) The chemicals they rail against are not in any way toxic even to them. They are responding to a sensory overload in a way that is *extremely* characteristic of high functioning autism (and a refusal to accept that even as a possibility is also indicative of the same condition). No different really to blaming Wifi and 5G for Covid. -- Regards, Martin Brown
OT: alcohol based perfume removal?
Started by ●November 17, 2021
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:> On 25/11/2021 17:17, Rick C wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 7:08:18 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote: > >> On 23/11/2021 13:53, Rick C wrote: > >>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-4, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > >>>> T <T...@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 11/17/21 07:57, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > >>>>>> Some of the so-called 'fresheners' are just as bad as the perfumes for > >>>>>> triggering allergies. > >>>>> > >>>>> Fabreeze is a horrible allergin > >> It is a complex mixture of chemicals designed to disguise and mask BO. > >> They are usually *very* careful to avoid any allergenic compounds. > >>>> There is good evidence that it kills dogs and creates neurological > >>>> disturbances in cats. > >>> > >>> "neurological disturbances in cats" - How can you tell? > >> Cats are borderline psychotic at the best of times... > >> More so for US style "house cats" that are never allowed out. > >> > >> It is paranoid new age word salad against chemicals. > >> > >> I am no fan of "air fresheners" by the way - they seek to disguise what > >> could be important warning signs of things that could be potentially > >> dangerous like the smell of rotting food or leaking drains for example. > >> > >> If you are really allergic to something in the air then the effect is > >> not unlike CS gas or methyl mercaptan (smell of gas). Eyes or lungs on > >> fire streaming with tears almost blinded and possibly vomiting as well. > >> If you are really out of luck throat swelling can cause breathing > >> difficulties and intervention with an epipen may be needed. > >> > >> A small number of very dangerous allergic sensitisers produce no effect > >> at all the very first time that you are exposed. The second time around > >> is something of a wake up call. > >> > >> Think hayfever on steroids and you get the general idea. > >> > >> What she & T are describing is much more like a high functioning autism > >> response to complex smells which is entirely different to an allergy. > >> The irrational obsession with perceived "toxins" is also consistent. > > > > The terminology might be a bit extreme, but given the symptoms > >described, it sounds pretty severe. I have no idea why you label it an > >"autism response". > > Perhaps you should read some of the links I have already posted then > your ignorance would not be so great. Autism is strongly linked with an > enhanced sense of bitter tastes and distorted overwhelming smells. >Perhaps you should read my replies: I do not have an enhanced sense of smell and some of the chemicals that are toxic to me don't have a smell. You have done a lot of research and discovered a lot of facts about the wrong problem. [...]> Panic induced responses can feel extremely real to the sufferer. > Hyperventilating being by far the most commonly experienced one.Absolutely not, I hold my breath and calmly get away from the chemicals if I can identify the source. [...]> I'm trying to help them understand their condition.Your comments are not helping because they apply to a different condition. I don't need to be told that I suffer from symptoms I have never had - and therefore I have a condition which I have not got.> If you know what you are dealing with it helps a lot. This neurotoxin > stuff is complete and utter new age bollocks with bells on!If you had lost days of your life in nausea, confusion and dysfunctionality because of exposure to known allergens you wouldn't say that.> Do you *really* believe that fabreeze kills dogs and makes cats go mad?There is a growing body of evidence that a number of unexplained deaths of apparently healthy dogs have coincided with their owners' use of Fabrese. I myself have witnessed the effect on a cat - which recovered when the use of Fabreze was discontinued. It is not a matter of 'belief', it is a matter for more serious research in the face of evidence that this might be more than coincidence.> The chemicals they rail against are not in any way toxic even to them. > They are responding to a sensory overload in a way that is *extremely* > characteristic of high functioning autism (and a refusal to accept that > even as a possibility is also indicative of the same condition).Why invoke a bizarre explanantion which doesn't fit the facts when there is a perfectly logical one that does? -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: [...]> You never answered me on my question as to if you ever > figured out how to get fabric finishes out of new cloths > (or I missed it).Sorry, I didn't reply in any depth. I haven't found an absolutely reliable way, but hanging the clothes outside for several days when the weather is alternately sunny and showery helps in some cases. The evaporting water molecules seem to take some of the perfume molecules with them. (A bit like being able to smell the grass following a rain shower after a long dry period). If the perfume has got onto the clothes from a wearer and doesn't disperse quickly, it is probably oil based. As a drastic last resort, I have washed clothes like that in paraffin (kerosene) and then removed it with washing-up detergent. The smell of the paraffin only lasts about a week if they are well aired, then the clothes can be put in with the normal wash and should emerge smell-free. Diesel could be used but it smells worse and takes a lot longer for the smell to go. Cooking oil or Liquid Paraffin might be less smelly alternatives, but I haven't tried them and their higher viscosity (and cost) might cause problems.. I have hanging rails in my attic, which is ventilated separately from the house. Clothes can be left there for several months to see if the smell dimishes, but it sometimes revives when they are worn, because of body heat and moisture. The only cure for that is to get rid of them. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 7:09:50 PM UTC-4, Liz Tuddenham wrote:> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: > > On 25/11/2021 17:17, Rick C wrote: > > > On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 7:08:18 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote: > > >> On 23/11/2021 13:53, Rick C wrote: > > >>> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-4, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > > >>>> T <T...@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> On 11/17/21 07:57, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > > >>>>>> Some of the so-called 'fresheners' are just as bad as the perfumes for > > >>>>>> triggering allergies. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Fabreeze is a horrible allergin > > >> It is a complex mixture of chemicals designed to disguise and mask BO. > > >> They are usually *very* careful to avoid any allergenic compounds. > > >>>> There is good evidence that it kills dogs and creates neurological > > >>>> disturbances in cats. > > >>> > > >>> "neurological disturbances in cats" - How can you tell? > > >> Cats are borderline psychotic at the best of times... > > >> More so for US style "house cats" that are never allowed out. > > >> > > >> It is paranoid new age word salad against chemicals. > > >> > > >> I am no fan of "air fresheners" by the way - they seek to disguise what > > >> could be important warning signs of things that could be potentially > > >> dangerous like the smell of rotting food or leaking drains for example. > > >> > > >> If you are really allergic to something in the air then the effect is > > >> not unlike CS gas or methyl mercaptan (smell of gas). Eyes or lungs on > > >> fire streaming with tears almost blinded and possibly vomiting as well. > > >> If you are really out of luck throat swelling can cause breathing > > >> difficulties and intervention with an epipen may be needed. > > >> > > >> A small number of very dangerous allergic sensitisers produce no effect > > >> at all the very first time that you are exposed. The second time around > > >> is something of a wake up call. > > >> > > >> Think hayfever on steroids and you get the general idea. > > >> > > >> What she & T are describing is much more like a high functioning autism > > >> response to complex smells which is entirely different to an allergy. > > >> The irrational obsession with perceived "toxins" is also consistent. > > > > > > The terminology might be a bit extreme, but given the symptoms > > >described, it sounds pretty severe. I have no idea why you label it an > > >"autism response". > > > > Perhaps you should read some of the links I have already posted then > > your ignorance would not be so great. Autism is strongly linked with an > > enhanced sense of bitter tastes and distorted overwhelming smells. > > > Perhaps you should read my replies: I do not have an enhanced sense of > smell and some of the chemicals that are toxic to me don't have a smell. > You have done a lot of research and discovered a lot of facts about the > wrong problem.LOL, that's Martin Brown!> [...] > > Panic induced responses can feel extremely real to the sufferer. > > Hyperventilating being by far the most commonly experienced one. > Absolutely not, I hold my breath and calmly get away from the chemicals > if I can identify the source.I don't sense any issues with you of exaggeration or panic. I think we know where the exaggeration comes from.> [...] > > I'm trying to help them understand their condition. > Your comments are not helping because they apply to a different > condition. I don't need to be told that I suffer from symptoms I have > never had - and therefore I have a condition which I have not got. > > If you know what you are dealing with it helps a lot. This neurotoxin > > stuff is complete and utter new age bollocks with bells on! > If you had lost days of your life in nausea, confusion and > dysfunctionality because of exposure to known allergens you wouldn't say > that. > > Do you *really* believe that fabreeze kills dogs and makes cats go mad? > There is a growing body of evidence that a number of unexplained deaths > of apparently healthy dogs have coincided with their owners' use of > Fabrese. I myself have witnessed the effect on a cat - which recovered > when the use of Fabreze was discontinued.At one time I used air fresheners on the furniture as a repellent to make them stop using it as a scratching post. It required frequent application and bothered me as much as it did them.> It is not a matter of 'belief', it is a matter for more serious research > in the face of evidence that this might be more than coincidence.The posts here made me aware of the significance of the problem and makes me glad I don't suffer as much as many do. Similar to a number of medical issues I have, but only in a small way compared to others.> > The chemicals they rail against are not in any way toxic even to them. > > They are responding to a sensory overload in a way that is *extremely* > > characteristic of high functioning autism (and a refusal to accept that > > even as a possibility is also indicative of the same condition). > Why invoke a bizarre explanantion which doesn't fit the facts when there > is a perfectly logical one that does?We will see how far you get with this argument. He typically is not one to admit when he is wrong. -- Rick C. +--+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging +--+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
On 11/25/21 15:09, Liz Tuddenham wrote:> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > [...] >> You never answered me on my question as to if you ever >> figured out how to get fabric finishes out of new cloths >> (or I missed it). > > Sorry, I didn't reply in any depth. > > I haven't found an absolutely reliable way, but hanging the clothes > outside for several days when the weather is alternately sunny and > showery helps in some cases. The evaporting water molecules seem to > take some of the perfume molecules with them. (A bit like being able to > smell the grass following a rain shower after a long dry period). > > If the perfume has got onto the clothes from a wearer and doesn't > disperse quickly, it is probably oil based. As a drastic last resort, I > have washed clothes like that in paraffin (kerosene) and then removed it > with washing-up detergent. The smell of the paraffin only lasts about a > week if they are well aired, then the clothes can be put in with the > normal wash and should emerge smell-free. > > Diesel could be used but it smells worse and takes a lot longer for the > smell to go. Cooking oil or Liquid Paraffin might be less smelly > alternatives, but I haven't tried them and their higher viscosity (and > cost) might cause problems.. > > I have hanging rails in my attic, which is ventilated separately from > the house. Clothes can be left there for several months to see if the > smell dimishes, but it sometimes revives when they are worn, because of > body heat and moisture. The only cure for that is to get rid of them. > >We have been soaking them in buckets for weeks. It is really hard to get out.
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
On 11/25/21 09:19, Rick C wrote:> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 10:36:38 AM UTC-4, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> On 25/11/2021 13:18, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 24/11/2021 11:40, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>>>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are really allergic to something in the air then the effect is >>>>>>> not unlike CS gas or methyl mercaptan (smell of gas). Eyes or lungs on >>>>>>> fire streaming with tears almost blinded and possibly vomiting as well. >>>>>>> If you are really out of luck throat swelling can cause breathing >>>>>>> difficulties and intervention with an epipen may be needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A small number of very dangerous allergic sensitisers produce no effect >>>>>>> at all the very first time that you are exposed. The second time around >>>>>>> is something of a wake up call. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Think hayfever on steroids and you get the general idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What she & T are describing is much more like a high functioning autism >>>>>>> response to complex smells which is entirely different to an allergy. >>>>>>> The irrational obsession with perceived "toxins" is also consistent. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your diagnosis, especially as you have never met either of >>>>>> us, but I would prefer the diagnosis of the medical experts I have >>>>>> actually consulted on this. >>>>> >>>>> I expect you do but just think about it for a moment. >>>>> Are you really as allergic to all these things as you say you are? >>>> >>>> Yes, they are toxic to me, even if they aren't to anyone else. The >>>> reaction is out of proportion to the quantity of toxin - a true allergic >>>> reaction. It is also present when I am not aware of the presence of the >>>> allergenic substance through my normal senses, so it isn't >>>> psychologically based. >>> >>> So do you carry an epipen around all the time then? >> No, because the symptoms do not include swelling of the airways and so >> are are not life-threatening (unless I tried to drive or operate >> machinery). The neurological symptoms are very real but reversible when >> exposure to the toxin is stopped. >>> >>>> Susceptibility to poisoning is not a manifestation of autism. >>> >>> Believing that every chemical is toxic to you is. Being swamped by >>> complex smells could easily be a manifestation of high functioning >>> autism. They are one of the other main categories of super tasters. >> Some of these chemicals are odourless to me and I do not believe "every >> chemical is toxic". I work with many volatile chemical substances that >> cause me no trouble at all even though some of them upset other people. >> I also work with a variety of unpleasant smells and have no problem >> other than the normal reaction to something that smells revolting. >> >> I don't know what you are confusing this with, but it is something I do >> not suffer from. > > It is just a manifestation of his highly functioning autism. >Rick, Your assumption that is is autism is so unbelievable off that is takes my breath away. Did you do ANY research before your pulled that garbage our your ear? And by the way, that that think you pulled out your ear tell you that not all of these chemicals come with an odor? The tip off that you are allergic to them is your throat swelling shut, gasping in terror trying to breath, getting dizzy, brain fog, etc., etc., etc.. This is what science say about multiple chemical sensitivity: Assessment of cerebral blood flow in patients with multiple chemical sensitivity using near-infrared spectroscopy--recovery after olfactory stimulation: a case-control study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25682122/ Results: After olfactory stimulation, significant activations were observed in the PFC of patients with MCS on both the right and left sides compared with controls. The activations were specifically strong in the orbitofrontal cortex (OFC). Compared with controls, autonomic perception and feelings identification were poorer in patients with MCS. OFC is associated with stimuli response and the representation of preferences. Conclusions: These results suggest that a past strong exposure to hazardous chemicals activates the PFC during olfactory stimuli in patients with MCS, and a strong activation in the OFC remains after the stimuli. And here is your mental health bull shit: Experiences of persons with multiple chemical sensitivity with mental health providers: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27103817/ Abstract In this paper, we summarize the results of an online survey of persons in the United States with chemical intolerance/multiple chemical sensitivity who sought help from mental health providers, including counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, and others. Respondents reported on their most recent contact with a provider, describing reasons for the contact, accommodations requested and received, and suggestions for how the experience could be more helpful. Overall, though clients were accommodated in small ways, some received no accommodation, and many felt that the providers needed to be more knowledgeable regarding chemical intolerance. Results are discussed in terms of the importance of providers becoming more aware of multiple chemical sensitivity and more willing to make their services accessible to these clients. More mental health bull shit: Chemical sensitivity: pathophysiology or pathopsychology? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23642291/ Results: The sensitization state of CS seems to be initiated by a significant toxic exposure, occurring as a 1-time event, or on surpassing a threshold of toxicity after toxicant accrual from repeated lower- level exposures. Once sensitized through a toxicant- induced loss of tolerance, individuals exposed to inciting triggers such as minute amounts of diverse everyday chemicals may experience various clinical and immune sequelae, sometimes involving lymphocyte, antibody, or cytokine responses. Precautionary avoidance of inciting triggers will prevent symptoms, and desensitization immunotherapy or immune suppression may improve symptoms in some cases. Sustained resolution of the CS state occurs after successful elimination of the accrued body burden of toxicants through natural mechanisms of toxicant bioelimination and/or interventions of clinical detoxification. Despite extensive clinical evidence to support the veracity of this clinical state, many members of the medical community are reluctant to accept this condition as a pathophysiologic disorder. I HAVE 17 MORE IF YOU WANT THEM. Or you could ignore science and go with want comes out your ear and continue to be callous to the suffering you are causing your neighbors because you are having FUN playing with chemicals. Karma is real dude. -T
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
On 11/25/21 15:09, Liz Tuddenham wrote:>> Do you*really* believe that fabreeze kills dogs and makes cats go mad? > There is a growing body of evidence that a number of unexplained deaths > of apparently healthy dogs have coincided with their owners' use of > Fabrese. I myself have witnessed the effect on a cat - which recovered > when the use of Fabreze was discontinued. > > It is not a matter of 'belief', it is a matter for more serious research > in the face of evidence that this might be more than coincidence. > >https://www.ewg.org/guides/brand/6531-Febreze/
Reply by ●November 25, 20212021-11-25
On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 8:14:08 PM UTC-4, T wrote:> On 11/25/21 09:19, Rick C wrote: > > On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 10:36:38 AM UTC-4, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > >> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >>> On 25/11/2021 13:18, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > >>>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 24/11/2021 11:40, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > >>>>>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you are really allergic to something in the air then the effect is > >>>>>>> not unlike CS gas or methyl mercaptan (smell of gas). Eyes or lungs on > >>>>>>> fire streaming with tears almost blinded and possibly vomiting as well. > >>>>>>> If you are really out of luck throat swelling can cause breathing > >>>>>>> difficulties and intervention with an epipen may be needed. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> A small number of very dangerous allergic sensitisers produce no effect > >>>>>>> at all the very first time that you are exposed. The second time around > >>>>>>> is something of a wake up call. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Think hayfever on steroids and you get the general idea. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What she & T are describing is much more like a high functioning autism > >>>>>>> response to complex smells which is entirely different to an allergy. > >>>>>>> The irrational obsession with perceived "toxins" is also consistent. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you for your diagnosis, especially as you have never met either of > >>>>>> us, but I would prefer the diagnosis of the medical experts I have > >>>>>> actually consulted on this. > >>>>> > >>>>> I expect you do but just think about it for a moment. > >>>>> Are you really as allergic to all these things as you say you are? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, they are toxic to me, even if they aren't to anyone else. The > >>>> reaction is out of proportion to the quantity of toxin - a true allergic > >>>> reaction. It is also present when I am not aware of the presence of the > >>>> allergenic substance through my normal senses, so it isn't > >>>> psychologically based. > >>> > >>> So do you carry an epipen around all the time then? > >> No, because the symptoms do not include swelling of the airways and so > >> are are not life-threatening (unless I tried to drive or operate > >> machinery). The neurological symptoms are very real but reversible when > >> exposure to the toxin is stopped. > >>> > >>>> Susceptibility to poisoning is not a manifestation of autism. > >>> > >>> Believing that every chemical is toxic to you is. Being swamped by > >>> complex smells could easily be a manifestation of high functioning > >>> autism. They are one of the other main categories of super tasters. > >> Some of these chemicals are odourless to me and I do not believe "every > >> chemical is toxic". I work with many volatile chemical substances that > >> cause me no trouble at all even though some of them upset other people. > >> I also work with a variety of unpleasant smells and have no problem > >> other than the normal reaction to something that smells revolting. > >> > >> I don't know what you are confusing this with, but it is something I do > >> not suffer from. > > > > It is just a manifestation of his highly functioning autism. > > > Rick, > > Your assumption that is is autism is so unbelievable off > that is takes my breath away. Did you do ANY research before > your pulled that garbage our your ear? > > And by the way, that that think you pulled out your ear tell you that > not all of these chemicals come with an odor? The tip off that you are > allergic to them is your throat swelling shut, gasping in terror trying > to breath, getting dizzy, > brain fog, etc., etc., etc..You seem to have not understood a word I wrote. You did the same thing on another post of mine. If you can't read what I wrote, please don't respond. -- Rick C. +-+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging +-+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●November 26, 20212021-11-26
On 11/25/21 17:41, Rick C wrote:> Believing that every chemical is toxic to you is. Being swamped by > complex smells could easily be a manifestation of high functioning > autism. They are one of the other main categories of super tasters.What did I misunderstand? "Believing"? "Every"? "Autism"? Do you realize how insulting that is?
Reply by ●November 26, 20212021-11-26
On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 12:01:24 AM UTC-4, T wrote:> On 11/25/21 17:41, Rick C wrote: > > Believing that every chemical is toxic to you is. Being swamped by > > complex smells could easily be a manifestation of high functioning > > autism. They are one of the other main categories of super tasters. > What did I misunderstand? "Believing"? "Every"? > "Autism"? Do you realize how insulting that is?Maybe you need to learn about quoting. I didn't write that. The idiot Brown did. Now get off my back. Don't complain to me about something I didn't write. Learn how to use newsgroups. -- Rick C. +-++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging +-++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
