OT: alcohol based perfume removal?

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 11/25/21 15:09, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> >> You never answered me on my question as to if you ever
> >> figured out how to get fabric finishes out of new cloths
> >> (or I missed it).
> > 
> > Sorry, I didn't reply in any depth.
> > 
> > I haven't found an absolutely reliable way, but hanging the clothes
> > outside for several days when the weather is alternately sunny and
> > showery helps in some cases.  The evaporting water molecules seem to
> > take some of the perfume molecules with them.  (A bit like being able to
> > smell the grass following a rain shower after a long dry period).
> > 
> > If the perfume has got onto the clothes from a wearer and doesn't
> > disperse quickly, it is probably oil based.  As a drastic last resort, I
> > have washed clothes like that in paraffin (kerosene) and then removed it
> > with washing-up detergent.  The smell of the paraffin only lasts about a
> > week if they are well aired, then the clothes can be put in with the
> > normal wash and should emerge smell-free.
> > 
> > Diesel could be used but it smells worse and takes a lot longer for the
> > smell to go.  Cooking oil or Liquid Paraffin might be less smelly
> > alternatives, but I haven't tried them and their higher viscosity (and
> > cost) might cause problems..
> > 
> > I have hanging rails in my attic, which is ventilated separately from
> > the house.  Clothes can be left there for several months to see if the
> > smell dimishes, but it sometimes revives when they are worn, because of
> > body heat and moisture.  The only cure for that is to get rid of them.
> > 
> > 
> 
> We have been soaking them in buckets for weeks.  It
> is really hard to get out.

Try alternately soaking and drying, that seems to be more effective than
just soaking.  Don't dry it inside the house, use an attic, a  shed or a
covered outdoor space.


-- 
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

On 11/25/21 22:02, Rick C wrote:

> Maybe you need to learn about quoting.  I didn't write that.  The idiot Brown did.
> 
> Now get off my back.  Don't complain to me about something I didn't write.  Learn how to use newsgroups.

Hi Rick,

I do have to apologize.

I had to go backwards in the threads to figure out
that Thunderbird was showing you at the top, making
me think I was responding to you.  The tip off was
your civil correspondence with Liz.  You name even
got mixed up on the "From:".

Again my apologies,

-T

On 11/26/21 07:47, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/25/21 15:09, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>> You never answered me on my question as to if you ever
>>>> figured out how to get fabric finishes out of new cloths
>>>> (or I missed it).
>>>
>>> Sorry, I didn't reply in any depth.
>>>
>>> I haven't found an absolutely reliable way, but hanging the clothes
>>> outside for several days when the weather is alternately sunny and
>>> showery helps in some cases.  The evaporting water molecules seem to
>>> take some of the perfume molecules with them.  (A bit like being able to
>>> smell the grass following a rain shower after a long dry period).
>>>
>>> If the perfume has got onto the clothes from a wearer and doesn't
>>> disperse quickly, it is probably oil based.  As a drastic last resort, I
>>> have washed clothes like that in paraffin (kerosene) and then removed it
>>> with washing-up detergent.  The smell of the paraffin only lasts about a
>>> week if they are well aired, then the clothes can be put in with the
>>> normal wash and should emerge smell-free.
>>>
>>> Diesel could be used but it smells worse and takes a lot longer for the
>>> smell to go.  Cooking oil or Liquid Paraffin might be less smelly
>>> alternatives, but I haven't tried them and their higher viscosity (and
>>> cost) might cause problems..
>>>
>>> I have hanging rails in my attic, which is ventilated separately from
>>> the house.  Clothes can be left there for several months to see if the
>>> smell dimishes, but it sometimes revives when they are worn, because of
>>> body heat and moisture.  The only cure for that is to get rid of them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We have been soaking them in buckets for weeks.  It
>> is really hard to get out.
> 
> Try alternately soaking and drying, that seems to be more effective than
> just soaking.  Don't dry it inside the house, use an attic, a  shed or a
> covered outdoor space.
> 
> 

I have been thinking of a drying rack to place outdoors.
It is always a chore to avoid the neighbors dryer and
house perfume though, which redeposits

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 11/25/21 09:19, Rick C wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 10:36:38 AM UTC-4, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/11/2021 13:18, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24/11/2021 11:40, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>>>> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are really allergic to something in the air then the effect is
>>>>>>>> not unlike CS gas or methyl mercaptan (smell of gas). Eyes or lungs on
>>>>>>>> fire streaming with tears almost blinded and possibly vomiting as well.
>>>>>>>> If you are really out of luck throat swelling can cause breathing
>>>>>>>> difficulties and intervention with an epipen may be needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A small number of very dangerous allergic sensitisers produce no effect
>>>>>>>> at all the very first time that you are exposed. The second time around
>>>>>>>> is something of a wake up call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Think hayfever on steroids and you get the general idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What she & T are describing is much more like a high functioning autism
>>>>>>>> response to complex smells which is entirely different to an allergy.
>>>>>>>> The irrational obsession with perceived "toxins" is also consistent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your diagnosis, especially as you have never met either of
>>>>>>> us, but I would prefer the diagnosis of the medical experts I have
>>>>>>> actually consulted on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect you do but just think about it for a moment.
>>>>>> Are you really as allergic to all these things as you say you are?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, they are toxic to me, even if they aren't to anyone else. The
>>>>> reaction is out of proportion to the quantity of toxin - a true allergic
>>>>> reaction. It is also present when I am not aware of the presence of the
>>>>> allergenic substance through my normal senses, so it isn't
>>>>> psychologically based.
>>>>
>>>> So do you carry an epipen around all the time then?
>>> No, because the symptoms do not include swelling of the airways and so
>>> are are not life-threatening (unless I tried to drive or operate
>>> machinery). The neurological symptoms are very real but reversible when
>>> exposure to the toxin is stopped.
>>>>
>>>>> Susceptibility to poisoning is not a manifestation of autism.
>>>>
>>>> Believing that every chemical is toxic to you is. Being swamped by
>>>> complex smells could easily be a manifestation of high functioning
>>>> autism. They are one of the other main categories of super tasters.
>>> Some of these chemicals are odourless to me and I do not believe "every
>>> chemical is toxic". I work with many volatile chemical substances that
>>> cause me no trouble at all even though some of them upset other people.
>>> I also work with a variety of unpleasant smells and have no problem
>>> other than the normal reaction to something that smells revolting.
>>>
>>> I don't know what you are confusing this with, but it is something I do
>>> not suffer from.
>> 
>> It is just a manifestation of his highly functioning autism.
>> 
> 
> Rick,
> 
> Your assumption that is is autism is so unbelievable off
> that is takes my breath away.  Did you do ANY research before
> your pulled that garbage our your ear?

It really sounds like anything will take your breath away.

How's the house of cinnamon and fish doing these days?