On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:06:38 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:55:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:44:21 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:52:53 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:28:43 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:12:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote: > > > > > > > > I sent a letter to President Biden. It reads as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear President Biden, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations on your legislative successes that benefit everyone > > > > > > > > in America. These are hard-won and you deserve all the rewards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! Joe Biden has HARMED more Americans than ANY president in history. EVERYTHING he has touched has turned to SHIT. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gnatguy is peculiarly susceptible to pro-Trump Republican propaganda, and a suffers from advanced senile dementia. These statements may not be unrelated. > > > > > > > > > > Hardly. It is YOU, Bozo, that is susceptible to ANYTHING coming out of the Crazy Lefties. > > > > > > > > You do like to think that, but your judgment is flawed. > > > > > > > Here is my message to VOTERS (not you, you Canadian slut): if you feel that you are BETTER OFF now than you were two years ago, vote for Dims. If you feel that you are WORSE OFF vote for REPUBLICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > But try not to base you judgement about how well-off you feel on the pro-Trump drivel served up to idiots like Gnatguy by Fox News. > > > > > HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! > > > > > News flash Bozo: Trump ISN'T up for election, but HUNDREDS of vulnerable Dims are. And YOU didn't answer the question: are you BETTER OFF or WORSE OFF since Joe Biden was elected? > > > > > > > > > > > > And figure in that your chance of dying of Covid-19 aren't as high under Biden as they were under Trump (despite Trump's lying claims that he was personally responsible for developing the vaccines against it). > > > > > > > > > > That is because Trump DELIVERED the COVID vaccine in RECORD TIME. > > > > > > > > The vaccines were developed remarkably quickly, but they were in clinical trials before Donald Trump got interested in them. He did see an opportunity for a bit of grandstanding with Operation Warp Speed. > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed > > > > > > > > Despite the claims, it didn't have anything to do with developing the vaccines though it did help fund the process of getting them into production, not that there would have been any difficulty in finding money for that. Trump has lied about it non-stop, and Gnatguy is silly enough to believe him. > > > > > > > > US vaccination levels are lower than they are in Australia, largely because a lot of people who are almost as stupid as Gnatguy have failed to get themselves vaccinated. The US isn't nearly as bad as Papua New Guinea, where unused vaccines have been dumped because the population is vaccine hesitant, but it is still pretty bad. Trump didn't take Covid-19 seriously and that did mean that a lot more Americans died of Covid-19 than they should have., > > > > > > Hey Bozo, the fact REMAINS that Operation Warp Speed, conceived by President Trump, DELIVERED THREE COVID vaccines in RECORD TIME of NINE MONTHS. The previous record was FIVE YEARS! > > > > But Trump, and Warp Speed, didn't have anything to do with the speed. The vaccines were in clinical trials before Warp Speed got under way. > > That is FALSE and you KNOW IT! If you think not then SUBSTANTIATE IT!!It's actually perfectly true, and well known. I'm not going to waste time trying to document the obvious for an idiot who is happy to ignore any information he doesn't like.> > > Your failure to ADMIT this is characteristic of your FAR LEFT LIBTARD BIAS.That how right wing idiots do like to characterise rational human beings.> > Your claim is mere right-wing stupidity. Trump lied to you, and you are too dumb to have noticed. > > Hardly - it is YOU that doesn't admit the accomplishments of President Trump, which ARE a matter of record. > https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820As usual, you have failed to understand what your link actually says. Warp Speed did help get vaccines into arms. It wasn't actually necessary, but it didn't slow down the process. It didn't get started until after the vaccines had been developed and were in clinical trials, and Trumps sole connection with the project was his boasting about it. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
A letter to President Biden
Started by ●October 19, 2022
Reply by ●October 22, 20222022-10-22
Reply by ●October 23, 20222022-10-23
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:tirqb0$nok$1@gioia.aioe.org: Par for the course that this wussified Trump Cult idiot has no response.> GnatTurd <maggot2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in > news:2eb634fd-24cd-4962-83eb-6778d89a47e6n@googlegroups.com: > >> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett >> VE3BTI wrote: >>> I sent a letter to President Biden. It reads as follows: >>> >>> Dear President Biden, >>> >>> Congratulations on your legislative successes that benefit >>> everyone in America. These are hard-won and you deserve all the >>> rewards. >> >> WRONG! Senile pervert Lyin' Biden has HARMED more Americans than >> ANY president in history. EVERYTHING he has touched has turned to >> SHIT. >> > You are an idiot. The inflation and move toward recession era > events was USHERED IN by Trump, and Biden has spent the last two > years mopping his loads and loads of kaka up. > > You cannot name one thing Trump did that helped this nation. > > > Strike one: > > Ill advised against utterly stupid "trade war with China". > Major > failure. Do you know how many farms shut down operations > permanently because of the stupid shit trump pulled? The idiot > had to tap the Treasury for billions of dollars to bail a bunch of > them out. And many still did not get back to producing. > > Strike Two: > > His precious wall. Kept more illegals in than it kept out. > Proven > fact, idiot. Also a waste of billions and no wall was even built > and he cut military programs to gather up more cash to filch. > Sounds like embezzlement of the US Treasury to me. > > Strike Three: > > Pulling out troops AFTER he lost the election to do harm to the > Biden administration by blaming him for the effects the pullouts > would have with a perfect example being the Afghanistan exodus. > Trump reduced the troop strength to a mere 2500 troops, and he did > it AFTER the election loss and BEFORE the end of 2020. leaving the > all but paralyzed exodus operation manned in a dangerous, > bare-bones situation. And with the as yet no full trained Afghan > troops unable to do anything but surrender the military hardware > you idiots all claim that "Biden gave to the enemy". Then, the > idiot Trump had his DHS illicit appointments muddy up the VISA > issuance process and then halt it altogether, all also before the > end of 2020. And THAT lack of VISA is why there was a huge glut > of folks outside the airport perimeter fence, which led to an ISIS > attack, which I would not put past Trump as paying for as well. > That killed 13 of our service members. THAT was TRUMP'S FAULT. > ALL OF IT. If the VISAs had been issued, there would have been no > one outside the airport fences. > > So tell us, you stupid fuck... just what did Trump do to help > the > nation? > > Tax cuts? Nope... all for the rich. > > Timely response and direction in an address on national > television > regarding the pandemic outbreak? Nope. Deliberately downplayed > risks continual Public NIL response and went golfing. > > Playing fair when he found out who he was to run against in > 2020? > Nope. He made a call the very day he found out, to the president > of Ukraine and held up an already appropriated load of ordnance > that was literally sitting on the tarmac, ready for the jaunt, and > wanted the president to announce that he had an investigation > taking place of Joseph Biden. You know... that little Quid Pro > Quo thingy. That cost Ukraine a minimum of 13 lives. That also > included Trump calling for the assassination of a US Ambassador. > That got his criminal ass impeached. > > Tell us again what good things the Trump crime family did for > the > US? Still waiting, TrumpChump. > > And THEN America arrives at all the 100% CRIMINAL STUPID > HORSESHIT > TRUMP PULLED after he lost, riling up a bunch of violent total > retards to come pull yet more crimes. > That got his criminal ass impeached again. > > And THEN, the ZERO Christian bone in his body jackass went and > stood in front of a church holding up an upside down and backward > facing bible. An actual satanic "insult". > > And as he roots on Virginia's Nazi and KKK hate marches. > > Tell us again, dumb fucktard... what is it Trump did for the > nation? > > And now he has been spouting anti-semitic stupid shit. > > If you support Trump, you are a racist and anti-semite. There > is > no riding the fence. > >> Here is my message to VOTERS (not you, you Canadian slut): if you >> feel that you are BETTER OFF now than you were two years ago, >> vote for Dims. If you feel that you are WORSE OFF vote for >> REPUBLICANS. > > Again, you have no clue how long the cycle is for the effects > the > stupid shit Trump pulled will have. You have no bigger picture > grasp whatsoever, in fact. > > No. Voting is like driving a car. One votes D to move forward, > and R to move backward.
Reply by ●October 27, 20222022-10-27
On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:00:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:06:38 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:55:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:44:21 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:52:53 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:28:43 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:12:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote: > > > > > > > > > I sent a letter to President Biden. It reads as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear President Biden, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations on your legislative successes that benefit everyone > > > > > > > > > in America. These are hard-won and you deserve all the rewards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WRONG! Joe Biden has HARMED more Americans than ANY president in history. EVERYTHING he has touched has turned to SHIT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gnatguy is peculiarly susceptible to pro-Trump Republican propaganda, and a suffers from advanced senile dementia. These statements may not be unrelated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hardly. It is YOU, Bozo, that is susceptible to ANYTHING coming out of the Crazy Lefties. > > > > > > > > > > You do like to think that, but your judgment is flawed. > > > > > > > > Here is my message to VOTERS (not you, you Canadian slut): if you feel that you are BETTER OFF now than you were two years ago, vote for Dims. If you feel that you are WORSE OFF vote for REPUBLICANS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But try not to base you judgement about how well-off you feel on the pro-Trump drivel served up to idiots like Gnatguy by Fox News. > > > > > > HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! > > > > > > News flash Bozo: Trump ISN'T up for election, but HUNDREDS of vulnerable Dims are. And YOU didn't answer the question: are you BETTER OFF or WORSE OFF since Joe Biden was elected? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And figure in that your chance of dying of Covid-19 aren't as high under Biden as they were under Trump (despite Trump's lying claims that he was personally responsible for developing the vaccines against it). > > > > > > > > > > > > That is because Trump DELIVERED the COVID vaccine in RECORD TIME. > > > > > > > > > > The vaccines were developed remarkably quickly, but they were in clinical trials before Donald Trump got interested in them. He did see an opportunity for a bit of grandstanding with Operation Warp Speed. > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed > > > > > > > > > > Despite the claims, it didn't have anything to do with developing the vaccines though it did help fund the process of getting them into production, not that there would have been any difficulty in finding money for that. Trump has lied about it non-stop, and Gnatguy is silly enough to believe him. > > > > > > > > > > US vaccination levels are lower than they are in Australia, largely because a lot of people who are almost as stupid as Gnatguy have failed to get themselves vaccinated. The US isn't nearly as bad as Papua New Guinea, where unused vaccines have been dumped because the population is vaccine hesitant, but it is still pretty bad. Trump didn't take Covid-19 seriously and that did mean that a lot more Americans died of Covid-19 than they should have., > > > > > > > > Hey Bozo, the fact REMAINS that Operation Warp Speed, conceived by President Trump, DELIVERED THREE COVID vaccines in RECORD TIME of NINE MONTHS. The previous record was FIVE YEARS! > > > > > > But Trump, and Warp Speed, didn't have anything to do with the speed. The vaccines were in clinical trials before Warp Speed got under way. > > > > That is FALSE and you KNOW IT! If you think not then SUBSTANTIATE IT!! > It's actually perfectly true, and well known. I'm not going to waste time trying to document the obvious for an idiot who is happy to ignore any information he doesn't like. > > > > Your failure to ADMIT this is characteristic of your FAR LEFT LIBTARD BIAS. > That how right wing idiots do like to characterise rational human beings. > > > Your claim is mere right-wing stupidity. Trump lied to you, and you are too dumb to have noticed. > > > > Hardly - it is YOU that doesn't admit the accomplishments of President Trump, which ARE a matter of record. > > https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820 > As usual, you have failed to understand what your link actually says. Warp Speed did help get vaccines into arms. It wasn't actually necessary, but it didn't slow down the process. It didn't get started until after the vaccines had been developed and were in clinical trials, and Trumps sole connection with the project was his boasting about it. > > -- > Bozo Bill Sloman, SydneyHey Bozo, you are brain dead, as usual: https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319
Reply by ●October 27, 20222022-10-27
On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 2:42:33 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote in > news:tirqb0$nok$1...@gioia.aioe.org: > > > Par for the course that this wussified Trump Cult idiot has no > response. > > > > GnatTurd <maggot...@yahoo.com> wrote in > > news:2eb634fd-24cd-4962...@googlegroups.com: > > > >> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett > >> VE3BTI wrote: > >>> I sent a letter to President Biden. It reads as follows: > >>> > >>> Dear President Biden, > >>> > >>> Congratulations on your legislative successes that benefit > >>> everyone in America. These are hard-won and you deserve all the > >>> rewards. > >> > >> WRONG! Senile pervert Lyin' Biden has HARMED more Americans than > >> ANY president in history. EVERYTHING he has touched has turned to > >> SHIT. > >> > > You are an idiot. The inflation and move toward recession era > > events was USHERED IN by Trump, and Biden has spent the last two > > years mopping his loads and loads of kaka up. > > > > You cannot name one thing Trump did that helped this nation. > > > > > > Strike one: > > > > Ill advised against utterly stupid "trade war with China". > > Major > > failure. Do you know how many farms shut down operations > > permanently because of the stupid shit trump pulled? The idiot > > had to tap the Treasury for billions of dollars to bail a bunch of > > them out. And many still did not get back to producing. > > > > Strike Two: > > > > His precious wall. Kept more illegals in than it kept out. > > Proven > > fact, idiot. Also a waste of billions and no wall was even built > > and he cut military programs to gather up more cash to filch. > > Sounds like embezzlement of the US Treasury to me. > > > > Strike Three: > > > > Pulling out troops AFTER he lost the election to do harm to the > > Biden administration by blaming him for the effects the pullouts > > would have with a perfect example being the Afghanistan exodus. > > Trump reduced the troop strength to a mere 2500 troops, and he did > > it AFTER the election loss and BEFORE the end of 2020. leaving the > > all but paralyzed exodus operation manned in a dangerous, > > bare-bones situation. And with the as yet no full trained Afghan > > troops unable to do anything but surrender the military hardware > > you idiots all claim that "Biden gave to the enemy". Then, the > > idiot Trump had his DHS illicit appointments muddy up the VISA > > issuance process and then halt it altogether, all also before the > > end of 2020. And THAT lack of VISA is why there was a huge glut > > of folks outside the airport perimeter fence, which led to an ISIS > > attack, which I would not put past Trump as paying for as well. > > That killed 13 of our service members. THAT was TRUMP'S FAULT. > > ALL OF IT. If the VISAs had been issued, there would have been no > > one outside the airport fences. > > > > So tell us, you stupid fuck... just what did Trump do to help > > the > > nation? > > > > Tax cuts? Nope... all for the rich. > > > > Timely response and direction in an address on national > > television > > regarding the pandemic outbreak? Nope. Deliberately downplayed > > risks continual Public NIL response and went golfing. > > > > Playing fair when he found out who he was to run against in > > 2020? > > Nope. He made a call the very day he found out, to the president > > of Ukraine and held up an already appropriated load of ordnance > > that was literally sitting on the tarmac, ready for the jaunt, and > > wanted the president to announce that he had an investigation > > taking place of Joseph Biden. You know... that little Quid Pro > > Quo thingy. That cost Ukraine a minimum of 13 lives. That also > > included Trump calling for the assassination of a US Ambassador. > > That got his criminal ass impeached. > > > > Tell us again what good things the Trump crime family did for > > the > > US? Still waiting, TrumpChump. > > > > And THEN America arrives at all the 100% CRIMINAL STUPID > > HORSESHIT > > TRUMP PULLED after he lost, riling up a bunch of violent total > > retards to come pull yet more crimes. > > That got his criminal ass impeached again. > > > > And THEN, the ZERO Christian bone in his body jackass went and > > stood in front of a church holding up an upside down and backward > > facing bible. An actual satanic "insult". > > > > And as he roots on Virginia's Nazi and KKK hate marches. > > > > Tell us again, dumb fucktard... what is it Trump did for the > > nation? > > > > And now he has been spouting anti-semitic stupid shit. > > > > If you support Trump, you are a racist and anti-semite. There > > is > > no riding the fence. > > > >> Here is my message to VOTERS (not you, you Canadian slut): if you > >> feel that you are BETTER OFF now than you were two years ago, > >> vote for Dims. If you feel that you are WORSE OFF vote for > >> REPUBLICANS. > > > > Again, you have no clue how long the cycle is for the effects > > the > > stupid shit Trump pulled will have. You have no bigger picture > > grasp whatsoever, in fact. > > > > No. Voting is like driving a car. One votes D to move forward, > > and R to move backward.Hey DecayedBrainMatter, You are a fucking idiot. Do you want to repeat one of your blatant threats on my life again?
Reply by ●October 27, 20222022-10-27
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:24:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:> On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 2:42:33 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: > > DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote in news:tirqb0$nok$1...@gioia.aioe.org: > > > GnatTurd <maggot...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:2eb634fd-24cd-4962...@googlegroups.com: > > >> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:<snip>> > Par for the course that this wussified Trump Cult idiot has no response. > > Hey DecayedBrainMatter, > > You are a fucking idiot. Do you want to repeat one of your blatant threats on my life again?Gnatguy hasn't noticed that Decadent Linux User Numero Uno doesn't make actual threats on anybody's life, though he sets up hypothetical situations that readers with poor reading comprehension - of which Gnatguy is a prize example - can construe that way. Gnatguy is the idiot around here, as he keeps reminding us. He's too much of an idiot to realise quite how obviously idiotic his posts are. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●October 27, 20222022-10-27
On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:00:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:06:38 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:55:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:44:21 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:52:53 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:28:43 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:12:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:<snip>> > > > But Trump, and Warp Speed, didn't have anything to do with the speed. The vaccines were in clinical trials before Warp Speed got under way. > > > > > > That is FALSE and you KNOW IT! If you think not then SUBSTANTIATE IT!! > > It's actually perfectly true, and well known. I'm not going to waste time trying to document the obvious for an idiot who is happy to ignore any information he doesn't like. > > > > > Your failure to ADMIT this is characteristic of your FAR LEFT LIBTARD BIAS. > > That how right wing idiots do like to characterise rational human beings. > > > > Your claim is mere right-wing stupidity. Trump lied to you, and you are too dumb to have noticed. > > > > > > Hardly - it is YOU that doesn't admit the accomplishments of President Trump, which ARE a matter of record. > > > https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820 > > As usual, you have failed to understand what your link actually says. Warp Speed did help get vaccines into arms. It wasn't actually necessary, but it didn't slow down the process. It didn't get started until after the vaccines had been developed and were in clinical trials, and Trumps sole connection with the project was his boasting about it. > > Hey Bozo, you are brain dead, as usual: > https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319Not brain dead to the extent of being impressed by lying pro-Trump propaganda. " In May 2020, OWS was launched and included a goal of producing 300 million doses of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines with initial doses available by January 2021." Vaccine development got under way pretty much when the Covid-19 genome was published, on January 12 2020. The scheme that had been set up to produce vaccines against the original SARS virus were dug up, and dusted off. The first clinical trails of the Moderna vaccine started on March 16, 2020. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins The first clinical trials of Astra-Zenecca vaccine started on the 23rd April 2020. https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-04-23-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-begins-human-trial-stage Clinical trials of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine started in California on April 19 2020. There were clinical trials in Germany (where the vaccine was developed) which seem to have started at much the same time. <https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/biontech_and_pfizer_announce_regulatory_approval_from_german_authority_paul_ehrlich_institut_to_commence_first_clinical_trial_of_covid_19_vaccine_candidates> As I said, operation Warp Speed didn't get going until after the three main vaccines were in Phase 1 clinical trials, which is to say *after* they had been developed. Trump can lie all he likes about this, but it is an obvious lie. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●October 27, 20222022-10-27
GnatTurd <maggotfood2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:53d05671-b114-489d-806c-d566e089f56fn@googlegroups.com:> On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 2:42:33 PM UTC-7, > DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote: >> DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote in >> news:tirqb0$nok$1...@gioia.aioe.org: >> >> >> Par for the course that this wussified Trump Cult idiot has no >> response. >> >> >> > GnatTurd <maggot...@yahoo.com> wrote in >> > news:2eb634fd-24cd-4962...@googlegroups.com: >> > >> >> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett >> >> VE3BTI wrote: >> >>> I sent a letter to President Biden. It reads as follows: >> >>> >> >>> Dear President Biden, >> >>> >> >>> Congratulations on your legislative successes that benefit >> >>> everyone in America. These are hard-won and you deserve all >> >>> the rewards. >> >> >> >> WRONG! Senile pervert Lyin' Biden has HARMED more Americans >> >> than ANY president in history. EVERYTHING he has touched has >> >> turned to SHIT. >> >> >> > You are an idiot. The inflation and move toward recession era >> > events was USHERED IN by Trump, and Biden has spent the last >> > two years mopping his loads and loads of kaka up. >> > >> > You cannot name one thing Trump did that helped this nation. >> > >> > >> > Strike one: >> > >> > Ill advised against utterly stupid "trade war with China". >> > Major >> > failure. Do you know how many farms shut down operations >> > permanently because of the stupid shit trump pulled? The idiot >> > had to tap the Treasury for billions of dollars to bail a bunch >> > of them out. And many still did not get back to producing. >> > >> > Strike Two: >> > >> > His precious wall. Kept more illegals in than it kept out. >> > Proven >> > fact, idiot. Also a waste of billions and no wall was even >> > built and he cut military programs to gather up more cash to >> > filch. Sounds like embezzlement of the US Treasury to me. >> > >> > Strike Three: >> > >> > Pulling out troops AFTER he lost the election to do harm to the >> > Biden administration by blaming him for the effects the >> > pullouts would have with a perfect example being the >> > Afghanistan exodus. Trump reduced the troop strength to a mere >> > 2500 troops, and he did it AFTER the election loss and BEFORE >> > the end of 2020. leaving the all but paralyzed exodus operation >> > manned in a dangerous, bare-bones situation. And with the as >> > yet no full trained Afghan troops unable to do anything but >> > surrender the military hardware you idiots all claim that >> > "Biden gave to the enemy". Then, the idiot Trump had his DHS >> > illicit appointments muddy up the VISA issuance process and >> > then halt it altogether, all also before the end of 2020. And >> > THAT lack of VISA is why there was a huge glut of folks outside >> > the airport perimeter fence, which led to an ISIS attack, which >> > I would not put past Trump as paying for as well. That killed >> > 13 of our service members. THAT was TRUMP'S FAULT. ALL OF IT. >> > If the VISAs had been issued, there would have been no one >> > outside the airport fences. >> > >> > So tell us, you stupid fuck... just what did Trump do to help >> > the >> > nation? >> > >> > Tax cuts? Nope... all for the rich. >> > >> > Timely response and direction in an address on national >> > television >> > regarding the pandemic outbreak? Nope. Deliberately downplayed >> > risks continual Public NIL response and went golfing. >> > >> > Playing fair when he found out who he was to run against in >> > 2020? >> > Nope. He made a call the very day he found out, to the >> > president of Ukraine and held up an already appropriated load >> > of ordnance that was literally sitting on the tarmac, ready for >> > the jaunt, and wanted the president to announce that he had an >> > investigation taking place of Joseph Biden. You know... that >> > little Quid Pro Quo thingy. That cost Ukraine a minimum of 13 >> > lives. That also included Trump calling for the assassination >> > of a US Ambassador. That got his criminal ass impeached. >> > >> > Tell us again what good things the Trump crime family did for >> > the >> > US? Still waiting, TrumpChump. >> > >> > And THEN America arrives at all the 100% CRIMINAL STUPID >> > HORSESHIT >> > TRUMP PULLED after he lost, riling up a bunch of violent total >> > retards to come pull yet more crimes. >> > That got his criminal ass impeached again. >> > >> > And THEN, the ZERO Christian bone in his body jackass went and >> > stood in front of a church holding up an upside down and >> > backward facing bible. An actual satanic "insult". >> > >> > And as he roots on Virginia's Nazi and KKK hate marches. >> > >> > Tell us again, dumb fucktard... what is it Trump did for the >> > nation? >> > >> > And now he has been spouting anti-semitic stupid shit. >> > >> > If you support Trump, you are a racist and anti-semite. There >> > is >> > no riding the fence. >> > >> >> Here is my message to VOTERS (not you, you Canadian slut): if >> >> you feel that you are BETTER OFF now than you were two years >> >> ago, vote for Dims. If you feel that you are WORSE OFF vote >> >> for REPUBLICANS. >> > >> > Again, you have no clue how long the cycle is for the effects >> > the >> > stupid shit Trump pulled will have. You have no bigger picture >> > grasp whatsoever, in fact. >> > >> > No. Voting is like driving a car. One votes D to move forward, >> > and R to move backward. > > Hey DecayedBrainMatter, > > You are a fucking idiot. Do you want to repeat one of your blatant > threats on my life again? >Bwuahahahaahahahaahahaa... You are a joke. No one threatened your life, Gnat Turd. You are such a blatant wuss. Nice deflection attempt there on the Trump Nil Accomplishment list. Noted.
Reply by ●October 29, 20222022-10-29
On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 11:29:20 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:00:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:06:38 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:55:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:44:21 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:52:53 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:28:43 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:12:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote: > <snip> > > > > > But Trump, and Warp Speed, didn't have anything to do with the speed. The vaccines were in clinical trials before Warp Speed got under way. > > > > > > > > That is FALSE and you KNOW IT! If you think not then SUBSTANTIATE IT!! > > > It's actually perfectly true, and well known. I'm not going to waste time trying to document the obvious for an idiot who is happy to ignore any information he doesn't like. > > > > > > Your failure to ADMIT this is characteristic of your FAR LEFT LIBTARD BIAS. > > > That how right wing idiots do like to characterise rational human beings. > > > > > Your claim is mere right-wing stupidity. Trump lied to you, and you are too dumb to have noticed. > > > > > > > > Hardly - it is YOU that doesn't admit the accomplishments of President Trump, which ARE a matter of record. > > > > https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820 > > > As usual, you have failed to understand what your link actually says. Warp Speed did help get vaccines into arms. It wasn't actually necessary, but it didn't slow down the process. It didn't get started until after the vaccines had been developed and were in clinical trials, and Trumps sole connection with the project was his boasting about it. > > > > Hey Bozo, you are brain dead, as usual: > > https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319 > Not brain dead to the extent of being impressed by lying pro-Trump propaganda. > > " In May 2020, OWS was launched and included a goal of producing 300 million doses of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines with initial doses available by January 2021." > > Vaccine development got under way pretty much when the Covid-19 genome was published, on January 12 2020. > > The scheme that had been set up to produce vaccines against the original SARS virus were dug up, and dusted off. > > The first clinical trails of the Moderna vaccine started on March 16, 2020. > > https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins > > The first clinical trials of Astra-Zenecca vaccine started on the 23rd April 2020. > > https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-04-23-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-begins-human-trial-stage > > Clinical trials of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine started in California on April 19 2020. There were clinical trials in Germany (where the vaccine was developed) which seem to have started at much the same time. > > <https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/biontech_and_pfizer_announce_regulatory_approval_from_german_authority_paul_ehrlich_institut_to_commence_first_clinical_trial_of_covid_19_vaccine_candidates> > > As I said, operation Warp Speed didn't get going until after the three main vaccines were in Phase 1 clinical trials, which is to say *after* they had been developed. > > Trump can lie all he likes about this, but it is an obvious lie. > > -- > Bill Sloman, SydneySorry Bozo, but YES, you ARE brain-dead. The GAO (General Accounting Agency) agrees with me (https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319): What GAO Found Operation Warp Speed (OWS)—a partnership between the Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Defense (DOD)—aimed to help accelerate the development of a COVID-19 vaccine. GAO found that OWS and vaccine companies adopted several strategies to accelerate vaccine development and mitigate risk. For example, OWS selected vaccine candidates that use different mechanisms to stimulate an immune response (i.e., platform technologies; see figure). Vaccine companies also took steps, such as starting large-scale manufacturing during clinical trials and combining clinical trial phases or running them concurrently. Clinical trials gather data on safety and efficacy, with more participants in each successive phase (e.g., phase 3 has more participants than phase 2). As of January 30, 2021, five of the six OWS vaccine candidates have entered phase 3 clinical trials, two of which—Moderna's and Pfizer/BioNTech's vaccines—have received an emergency use authorization (EUA) from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). For vaccines that received EUA, additional data on vaccine effectiveness will be generated from further follow-up of participants in clinical trials already underway before the EUA was issued. Technology readiness. GAO's analysis of the OWS vaccine candidates' technology readiness levels (TRL)—an indicator of technology maturity— showed that COVID-19 vaccine development under OWS generally followed traditional practices, with some adaptations. FDA issued specific guidance that identified ways that vaccine development may be accelerated during the pandemic. Vaccine companies told GAO that the primary difference from a non-pandemic environment was the compressed timelines. To meet OWS timelines, some vaccine companies relied on data from other vaccines using the same platforms, where available, or conducted certain animal studies at the same time as clinical trials. However, as is done in a non-pandemic environment, all vaccine companies gathered initial safety and antibody response data with a small number of participants before proceeding into large-scale human studies (e.g., phase 3 clinical trials). The two EUAs issued in December 2020 were based on analyses of clinical trial participants and showed about 95 percent efficacy for each vaccine. These analyses included assessments of efficacy after individuals were given two doses of vaccine and after they were monitored for about 2 months for adverse events. Manufacturing. As of January 2021, five of the six OWS vaccine companies had started commercial scale manufacturing. OWS officials reported that as of January 31, 2021, companies had released 63.7 million doses—about 32 percent of the 200 million doses that, according to OWS, companies with EUAs have been contracted to provide by March 31, 2021. Vaccine companies face a number of challenges in scaling up manufacturing to produce hundreds of millions of doses under OWS's accelerated timelines. DOD and HHS are working with vaccine companies to help mitigate manufacturing challenges, including: Limited manufacturing capacity: A shortage of facilities with capacity to handle the vaccine manufacturing needs can lead to production bottlenecks. Vaccine companies are working in partnership with OWS to expand production capacity. For example, one vaccine company told GAO that HHS's Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority helped them identify an additional manufacturing partner to increase production. Additionally, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is overseeing construction projects to expand capacity at vaccine manufacturing facilities. Disruptions to manufacturing supply chains: Vaccine manufacturing supply chains have been strained by the global demand for certain goods and workforce disruptions caused by the global pandemic. For example, representatives from one facility manufacturing COVID-19 vaccines stated that they experienced challenges obtaining materials, including reagents and certain chemicals. They also said that due to global demand, they waited 4 to 12 weeks for items that before the pandemic were typically available for shipment within one week. Vaccine companies and DOD and HHS officials told GAO they have undertaken several efforts to address possible manufacturing disruptions and mitigate supply chain challenges. These efforts include federal assistance to (1) expedite procurement and delivery of critical manufacturing equipment, (2) develop a list of critical supplies that are common across the six OWS vaccine candidates, and (3) expedite the delivery of necessary equipment and goods coming into the United States. Additionally, DOD and HHS officials said that as of December 2020 they had placed prioritized ratings on 18 supply contracts for vaccine companies under the Defense Production Act, which allows federal agencies with delegated authority to require contractors to prioritize those contracts for supplies needed for vaccine production. Gaps in the available workforce: Hiring and training personnel with the specialized skills needed to run vaccine manufacturing processes can be challenging. OWS officials stated that they have worked with the Department of State to expedite visa approval for key technical personnel, including technicians and engineers to assist with installing, testing, and certifying critical equipment manufactured overseas. OWS officials also stated that they requested that 16 DOD personnel be detailed to serve as quality control staff at two vaccine manufacturing sites until the organizations can hire the required personnel.
Reply by ●October 29, 20222022-10-29
On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 12:12:21 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 11:29:20 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 2:22:22 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 8:00:17 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:06:38 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:58:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 1:55:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:44:21 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:52:53 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:28:43 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 5:12:09 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:59:44 PM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:<snip>> > > > > > But Trump, and Warp Speed, didn't have anything to do with the speed. The vaccines were in clinical trials before Warp Speed got under way. > > > > > > > > > > That is FALSE and you KNOW IT! If you think not then SUBSTANTIATE IT!! > > > > > > > > It's actually perfectly true, and well known. I'm not going to waste time trying to document the obvious for an idiot who is happy to ignore any information he doesn't like. > > > > > > > > > > > Your failure to ADMIT this is characteristic of your FAR LEFT LIBTARD BIAS. > > > > > > > > That how right wing idiots do like to characterise rational human beings. > > > > > > > > > > Your claim is mere right-wing stupidity. Trump lied to you, and you are too dumb to have noticed. > > > > > > > > > > Hardly - it is YOU that doesn't admit the accomplishments of President Trump, which ARE a matter of record. > > > > > https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820 > > > > > > > > As usual, you have failed to understand what your link actually says. Warp Speed did help get vaccines into arms. It wasn't actually necessary, but it didn't slow down the process. It didn't get started until after the vaccines had been developed and were in clinical trials, and Trumps sole connection with the project was his boasting about it. > > > > > > Hey Bozo, you are brain dead, as usual: > > > https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319 > > > > Not brain dead to the extent of being impressed by lying pro-Trump propaganda. > > > > " In May 2020, OWS was launched and included a goal of producing 300 million doses of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines with initial doses available by January 2021." > > > > Vaccine development got under way pretty much when the Covid-19 genome was published, on January 12 2020. > > > > The scheme that had been set up to produce vaccines against the original SARS virus were dug up, and dusted off. > > > > The first clinical trails of the Moderna vaccine started on March 16, 2020. > > > > https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins > > > > The first clinical trials of Astra-Zenecca vaccine started on the 23rd April 2020. > > > > https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-04-23-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-begins-human-trial-stage > > > > Clinical trials of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine started in California on April 19 2020. There were clinical trials in Germany (where the vaccine was developed) which seem to have started at much the same time. > > > > <https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/biontech_and_pfizer_announce_regulatory_approval_from_german_authority_paul_ehrlich_institut_to_commence_first_clinical_trial_of_covid_19_vaccine_candidates> > > > > As I said, operation Warp Speed didn't get going until after the three main vaccines were in Phase 1 clinical trials, which is to say *after* they had been developed. > > > > Trump can lie all he likes about this, but it is an obvious lie.> Sorry Bozo, but YES, you ARE brain-dead. The GAO (General Accounting Agency) agrees with me (https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-319): > > What GAO Found<snipped cut and paste> Gnatguy always thinks that anything he can't understand agrees with him. That makes him the brain-dead poster here. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●October 29, 20222022-10-29
On 10/29/22 18:12, Flyguy wrote:> Sorry Bozo, but YES, you ARE brain-dead. The GAO (General Accounting Agency) agrees with me (https://www.gao.gov... )'G' means General here? 'A' is Accounting? 'O' stands for Agency now? You didn't get ANY of them right.
