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OT anii-gun activist murdrerer

Started by Unknown October 22, 2021
On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 15:08:33 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 4:24:18 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 13:18:07 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 3:46:52 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >> >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs >> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:03:31 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> >> https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048246249/woman-killed-alec-baldwin-film-prop-firearm-new-mexico >> >> >> >> >> >> Hollywood is all about guns. The occasional on-set shooting death is >> >> >> just normal overhead. Hypocrisy of the ruling class. >> >> >> >> >> >> Our local newspaper is anti-gun, and the entertainment section is >> >> >> packed with ads featuring movie stars pointing guns. >> >> >> >> >> >> Money talks, I guess. I wonder if Baldwin will shoot guns in future >> >> >> movies. >> >> > >> >> >Learn the difference between homicide and murder. Murder is a subset of homicide. >> >> > >> >> >The scene must have called for a closeup of Baldwin firing the weapon right into the camera, or close to it. The blast could have blown something loose from the camera assembly and into the victims. That's not likely to be something they would test out in advance. >> >> Yes, he shot at the camera. No, the victims were hit by a real bullet. >> >> >> >> Baldwin's movies, glorifying violence, have no doubt killed many more >> >> people. >> > >> >Nowhere does the news say a real bullet was involved. They do say the police are still trying to figure out what the projectile was. >> > >> >> >> Good point. Maybe a paper wad went went clean through the lady who >> died and then injured the guy. > >Whatever it was it had some spread on it. Another possibility is that something in that gun barrel disintegrated and let loose with metal fragments. There are all sorts of accessory add-ons available to achieve various effects. Or it could have been something as simple as a cartridge fragmented and left bits in the barrel, in front of the chamber, to be propelled at high speed by the succeeding blank. Maybe it was something along those lines. Pointing a gun at a person in those circumstances should just feel very wrong to a reasonably sane person, and that's why it's just not done. >
Or maybe it was a bullet. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in 
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> Baldwin's movies, glorifying violence, have no doubt killed many more > people. > > --
You are a fucking complete and total fucking self imposed retard. Now movies kill people? You, John Larkin, are an abject idiot. Remember "Guns don't kill people, people kill people..." Well, fucktarded dumbfuck... movies don't kill people, stupid jack jawed dumbfuck comments like yours kills people. And what Movie did he "glorify violence" in? "The Hunt For Red October" You gonna cite that one? In that movie, he did exactly the opposite of what you spew, despite being at the controls of a nuclear boomer. You ain't real fucking bright, you UN-American PUTZ motherfucker.
John Larkin wrote: 
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> > > > Yes, he shot at the camera. No, the victims were hit by a real bullet. > > > ** The likely scenario right now. > > The problem here is that "dummy" rounds and live ones may look just the same. > > Film sets are notoriously dangerous places, like construction sites but worse. > Everything is done to a tight schedule, safety wastes time and costs money. > There is a prevailing " show must go on" reckless mentality. > Film people think they are *special* and can break laws at whim to get a needed shot. > > Their arrogance is astounding so sometimes " shit happens " . > >
** Think this Australian ABC news story backs up the above pretty well: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-23/alec-baldwin-accidental-shooting-rust-film-set/100562498 A *real bullet* passed through the woman's chest and hit the man right behind her. ...... Phil
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 6:20:31 PM UTC-7, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
> John Larkin wrote: > ============== > > > > > > Yes, he shot at the camera. No, the victims were hit by a real bullet. > > > > > ** The likely scenario right now. > > > > The problem here is that "dummy" rounds and live ones may look just the same. > > > > Film sets are notoriously dangerous places, like construction sites but worse. > > Everything is done to a tight schedule, safety wastes time and costs money. > > There is a prevailing " show must go on" reckless mentality. > > Film people think they are *special* and can break laws at whim to get a needed shot. > > > > Their arrogance is astounding so sometimes " shit happens " . > > > > > ** Think this Australian ABC news story backs up the above pretty well: > > https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-23/alec-baldwin-accidental-shooting-rust-film-set/100562498 > > A *real bullet* passed through the woman's chest and hit the man right behind her. > > > > ...... Phil
What is extremely negligent is that Baldwin pointed a loaded gun at Hutchins and Souza. It is unknown at this time whether he pulled the trigger or if it discharged spontaneously (which is highly unlikely). Firearm safety training requires you to treat ALL guns as if they are loaded. So if someone handed me a gun and told me that it was "safe" I will check the chamber and magazine for any rounds. Baldwin should have received this training before being allowed to handle operable firearms. I would not be surprised if Baldwin is charged with negligent homicide.
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:03:05 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
> bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > > On 10/22/2021 11:03 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> > >> https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048246249/woman-killed-alec-baldwin-film-prop-firearm-new-mexico > >> > >> Hollywood is all about guns. The occasional on-set shooting death is > >> just normal overhead. Hypocrisy of the ruling class. > > > > I think the last fatality that occurred on a big-budget picture was over > > 25 years ago. > > > > Anyway, the "ruling class" in America is solidly right-wing. Otherwise > > there would've probably been a universal health care system by now... > > > >> Our local newspaper is anti-gun, and the entertainment section is > >> packed with ads featuring movie stars pointing guns. > >> > >> Money talks, I guess. I wonder if Baldwin will shoot guns in future > >> movies. > > > > Yes, they know their audience, and there are definitely not enough > > Godless leftists to keep them in business alone. Why do I wanna watch a > > movie about some old-timey gunslingers? I have no interest personally. > > Typical cannibal leftist justifications when pointing out the FACT > Hollywood rails against guns while it promotes guns like nobody else.
It makes movies that people will pay money to watch. The American gun-manufacturing business has spent a lot of money on brain-washing the American population to the point where half the house-holds in America have a gun, which is most likely to be used by it's owner for gun suicide, with the murder of a partner being the next most likely use. The gun manufacturing business spends a lot of money popularising the idea that household gun is useful for home defense, which it is - very occasionally - but nowhere near enough to compensate for the damage done when householders go out of their minds and shoot themselves or their nearest and dearest. In a culture where people think about guns a lot, the entertainment industry can make a lot money out of making films about guns being used - it piggy-backs on the gun-manufacturing industry advertising
> The cannibal left is chock-full of HYPOCRITES...
Hollywood is chock-full of people who will exploit any opportunity to make money. By and large they aren't leftists, but they do hire a lot of people who are more left-wing than they are (which isn't all that left-wing). -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 7:37:53 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:03:05 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote: > > bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > > > On 10/22/2021 11:03 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > > >> > > >> https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048246249/woman-killed-alec-baldwin-film-prop-firearm-new-mexico > > >> > > >> Hollywood is all about guns. The occasional on-set shooting death is > > >> just normal overhead. Hypocrisy of the ruling class. > > > > > > I think the last fatality that occurred on a big-budget picture was over > > > 25 years ago. > > > > > > Anyway, the "ruling class" in America is solidly right-wing. Otherwise > > > there would've probably been a universal health care system by now... > > > > > >> Our local newspaper is anti-gun, and the entertainment section is > > >> packed with ads featuring movie stars pointing guns. > > >> > > >> Money talks, I guess. I wonder if Baldwin will shoot guns in future > > >> movies. > > > > > > Yes, they know their audience, and there are definitely not enough > > > Godless leftists to keep them in business alone. Why do I wanna watch a > > > movie about some old-timey gunslingers? I have no interest personally. > > > > Typical cannibal leftist justifications when pointing out the FACT > > Hollywood rails against guns while it promotes guns like nobody else. > It makes movies that people will pay money to watch. The American gun-manufacturing business has spent a lot of money on brain-washing the American population to the point where half the house-holds in America have a gun, which is most likely to be used by it's owner for gun suicide, with the murder of a partner being the next most likely use. The gun manufacturing business spends a lot of money popularising the idea that household gun is useful for home defense, which it is - very occasionally - but nowhere near enough to compensate for the damage done when householders go out of their minds and shoot themselves or their nearest and dearest. > > In a culture where people think about guns a lot, the entertainment industry can make a lot money out of making films about guns being used - it piggy-backs on the gun-manufacturing industry advertising > > The cannibal left is chock-full of HYPOCRITES... > Hollywood is chock-full of people who will exploit any opportunity to make money. By and large they aren't leftists, but they do hire a lot of people who are more left-wing than they are (which isn't all that left-wing). > > -- > SNIPPERMAN, Sydney
Hey SNIPPERMAN, compared to you they are all RIGHT WING!
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:27:14 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote: 
> Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote: > > On 2021-10-22 18:50, Corvid wrote: > >> On 10/22/21 8:03 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >>> > >>> https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048246249/woman-killed-alec-baldwin-film-prop-firearm-new-mexico > >>> > >>> Hollywood is all about guns. The occasional on-set shooting death > >>> is just normal overhead. Hypocrisy of the ruling class. > >>> > >>> Our local newspaper is anti-gun, and the entertainment section is packed with ads featuring movie stars pointing guns. > >>> > >>> Money talks, I guess. > >> > >> And Hollywood is really all about money, not guns. > > > > Hollywood is weird. The whole American film industry is > > weird. Any amount of violence is acceptable, but showing > > a nipple is taboo. Weird. > > Yes, our entertainment is so "weird" the rest of the world can never steal enough of it...
The US entertainment industry is productive. The Indian entertainment industry is even more productive, but Bollywood is an acquired taste, and while it has more customers, they don't pay as much for their tickets. https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2014/09/03/bollywood-indias-film-industry-by-the-numbers-infographic/?sh=2d87d6e62488 There's always a market for nonsense that appeals to a particular audience. John Doe and Cursitor Doom get their "news" from organisations that put together conspiracy theories that are absurd enough to appeal to them, though much too fatuous for main-stream audiences. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 1:42:07 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 7:37:53 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 5:03:05 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote: > > > bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > > > > On 10/22/2021 11:03 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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> > > Hollywood rails against guns while it promotes guns like nobody else. > > It makes movies that people will pay money to watch. The American gun-manufacturing business has spent a lot of money on brain-washing the American population to the point where half the house-holds in America have a gun, which is most likely to be used by it's owner for gun suicide, with the murder of a partner being the next most likely use. The gun manufacturing business spends a lot of money popularising the idea that household gun is useful for home defense, which it is - very occasionally - but nowhere near enough to compensate for the damage done when householders go out of their minds and shoot themselves or their nearest and dearest. > > > > In a culture where people think about guns a lot, the entertainment industry can make a lot money out of making films about guns being used - it piggy-backs on the gun-manufacturing industry advertising > > > The cannibal left is chock-full of HYPOCRITES... > > Hollywood is chock-full of people who will exploit any opportunity to make money. By and large they aren't leftists, but they do hire a lot of people who are more left-wing than they are (which isn't all that left-wing). > > Hey Sloman, compared to you they are all RIGHT WING!
Flyguy is an undiscriminating right-winger. He thinks that any body who is more leftwing than he is - anybody sane - is a communist. He can't tell the difference between a democratic socialist and a totalitarian communist - they all have to believe the central control of the means of production - which even the Chinese Communists have given up on as impractical. It is bizarre. He is remarkably stupid, but such an absurd reaction of reality is more deluded than demented. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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