bitrex wrote...> > On 01/24/2019 02:14 PM, amdx wrote: >> On 1/24/2019 1:02 PM, bitrex wrote: >>> >>> Lol fuck that forum >> >> OK, maybe you can answer my question then. >> I have Mediasonic HW150 digital Video recorder. >> I recently purchased a WD 1T hard drive, when installed >> and I try to record, it says no disk found. Although it >> does recognize a USB cable was inserted. >> The drive is in NTFS file format, do I need to change >> that to FAT32? >> Mikek > > First thing to do is check the firmware revision and update > the box to the latest firmware if you don't have that.[ snip ] Hey, amdx, I think you just got your own private forum! -- Thanks, - Win
GBps to MB/s
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On 01/24/2019 02:42 PM, bitrex wrote:> On 01/24/2019 02:14 PM, amdx wrote: >> On 1/24/2019 1:02 PM, bitrex wrote: >>> On 01/24/2019 12:42 PM, amdx wrote: >>>> To prevent spambots I need to answer this question to confirm >>>> registration to a forum. >>>> >>>> "If USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 speed is 10Gbps, What is the speed of >>>> 10Gbps in MB/s (Answer must include MB/s):" >>>> >>>> I thought it would just be Gig to Meg or 1000, but I ge,t "that is >>>> an invalid answer", So I googled and found: >>>> " 10 Gigabit Ethernet speed 10 Gbit/s = 1250 Megabytes per second" >>>> But that also gives me a "that is an invalid answer". >>>> Yes, I putting it in MB/s form, either 1000MB/s or 1250MB/s >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> Mikek >>> >>> Lol fuck that forum >> >> OK, maybe you can answer my question then. >> I have Mediasonic HW150 digital Video recorder. >> I recently purchased a WD 1T hard drive, when installed >> and I try to record, it says no disk found. Although it >> does recognize a USB cable was inserted. >> The drive is in NTFS file format, do I need to change that to FAT32? >> Mikek > > First thing to do is check the firmware revision and update the box to > the latest firmware if you don't have that. > > Do you have any small Flash USB sticks lying around? Format one each way > just to see if it recognizes _anything_. If it can't even do that then > the problem is elsewhere. > > It looks like it's supposed to support both FAT32 and NTFS, and it > hopefully does support NTFS HDDs because if it don't and you have to use > FAT32 HDDs you'll be limited to a 4 gigabyte file size, which means you > won't be recording at 1080p for more than a couple hours unless it > splits files. > > The fact the amazon ad says that there's a hard limit of 2TB on external > drive size makes me think that if it does support NTFS as it's supposed > to that's due to wrong cluster size, maybe? Try formatting the drive at > the minimum NTFS cluster size of 512 bytes instead of what I believe the > Windows default is of 4kBTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when formatting.
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On 01/24/2019 02:51 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:> bitrex wrote... >> >> On 01/24/2019 02:14 PM, amdx wrote: >>> On 1/24/2019 1:02 PM, bitrex wrote: >>>> >>>> Lol fuck that forum >>> >>> OK, maybe you can answer my question then. >>> I have Mediasonic HW150 digital Video recorder. >>> I recently purchased a WD 1T hard drive, when installed >>> and I try to record, it says no disk found. Although it >>> does recognize a USB cable was inserted. >>> The drive is in NTFS file format, do I need to change >>> that to FAT32? >>> Mikek >> >> First thing to do is check the firmware revision and update >> the box to the latest firmware if you don't have that. > [ snip ] > > Hey, amdx, I think you just got your own private forum! > >Lol I couldn't find any updated firmware for it anyway and the copy of the manual I found is in French. I think the problem may be related to wrong partition table type it needs to be MBR, not GPT, the latter which appears to be the default partition table type when formatting an NTFS drive under recent Windows variants.
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:54:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:>BTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it >appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note >that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition >table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when formatting.If the camera really does have a 2GB limit, it's probably FAT32 with an MBR. Try a FAT32 specific format program: <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm> -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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On 01/24/2019 03:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:54:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> BTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it >> appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note >> that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition >> table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when formatting. > > If the camera really does have a 2GB limit, it's probably FAT32 with > an MBR. > > Try a FAT32 specific format program: > <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm> > <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm> > >It looks to be a $40 DVR but yeesh, FAT32 only in 2019? I'd spend a little more if that's the case what's it going to do when recording 1080p? You'll hit 4 gig file size limit real quick. I've been reading the French manual the only problem with that is I don't know French. And it's in French. cuz it's a French manual. Oh it's got parental controls, great, wouldn't want the kids to see all that porn PBS broadcasts OTA around here...
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:22:53 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:>On 01/24/2019 03:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:54:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> BTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it >>> appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note >>> that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition >>> table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when formatting. >> >> If the camera really does have a 2GB limit, it's probably FAT32 with >> an MBR. >> >> Try a FAT32 specific format program: >> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm> >> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm>>It looks to be a $40 DVR but yeesh, FAT32 only in 2019? I'd spend a >little more if that's the case what's it going to do when recording >1080p? You'll hit 4 gig file size limit real quick. > >I've been reading the French manual the only problem with that is I >don't know French. And it's in French. cuz it's a French manual. > >Oh it's got parental controls, great, wouldn't want the kids to see all >that porn PBS broadcasts OTA around here...My Jr High Skool French is a lost cause. Digging anyway: <http://www.mediasonic.ca/product.php?id=1365123671> The manual is at: <http://www.mediasonic.ca/files/1382658092_1.pdf> On Pg 15 is a table (that won't let me cut-n-paste) that shows: TIMESHIFT PVR RECORD FORMAT USB flash drive functions functions FAT32 3.5 inch HDD functions functions NTFS 2.5 inch HDD functions functions NTFS / FAT32 1.8 inch HDD won't work functions NTFS / FAT32 On the data sheet it proclaims: USB Multimedia Player (Support USB Flash Drive up to 64GB or USB 3.5" External Hard Drive up to 2TB). and Recording Function: Record TV Show (Suggest to use USB 2.5" or 3.5" External Hard Drive, Hard Drive formate MBR) (USB Flash Drive NOT recommended) So, the 1TB Western Dismal drive should work if it can be convinced to do MBR flavor partitions in NTFS. No mention of block sizes so both 512 bytes and 4KBytes should be tried. "Convert GPT to MBR" <https://neosmart.net/wiki/convert-gpt-to-mbr/> "Convert a GPT disk into an MBR disk" <https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/windowsserverdocs/blob/master/WindowsServerDocs/storage/disk-management/change-an-mbr-disk-into-a-gpt-disk.md> -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:30:14 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:>On 1/24/2019 1:14 PM, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 11:42:55 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote: >> >>> To prevent spambots I need to answer this question to confirm >>> registration to a forum. >>> >>> "If USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 speed is 10Gbps, What is the speed of 10Gbps in >>> MB/s (Answer must include MB/s):" >>> >>> I thought it would just be Gig to Meg or 1000, but I ge,t "that is an >>> invalid answer", So I googled and found: >>> " 10 Gigabit Ethernet speed 10 Gbit/s = 1250 Megabytes per second" >>> But that also gives me a "that is an invalid answer". >>> Yes, I putting it in MB/s form, either 1000MB/s or 1250MB/s >> >> Just divide the bit rate by 10 to get the net bytes/s will give quite >> correct results. Place remember the preamble, Ethernet headers and >> possible IP headers and possible TCP header, especially if 1500 byte >> standard Ethernet frames are used. With 9000 byte Jumbo frames, you >> might get slightly better than that. For practical purposes 10 Gbit/s >> is about 1 GByte/s. >> >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> Mikek >> > > > > > 10Gbit/s = 1GByte/s = 1000MByte/s >Do you agree that 1GByte/s equals 1000MByte/s ?Are you trying to troll in this newsgroups or are americans really that stupid that they do not understand the relationship between kilo, mega, giga, tera etc ?> > Google is showing me 10Mbps = 1250MB/s multiple times, but that >didn't work as an answer.What is this ? 1250 Mbytes/s is 10000 Mbit/s assuming a byte is 8 bits, which of course not a universal truth. In addition, you have to include any overhead in the form of message framing. With other definitions of a byte (e.g. capable of holding (a Unicode) character, the byte might be also 16, 21 or 32 bits. In the old days a unit capable of storing a character (such as 36 bit word) could also store six 6 bit characters, four 9 bit characters, two 18 bit (UCS-2, UTF-16) characters or any Unicade (UTF-32) character in 36 bit word. An octet is exactly 8 bits, so if you want to define 8 bit octets, please do so.> > Mikek
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On 1/24/2019 2:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:54:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> BTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it >> appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note >> that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition >> table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when formatting. > > If the camera really does have a 2GB limit, it's probably FAT32 with > an MBR. > > Try a FAT32 specific format program: > <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm> > <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm> > >It's not a camera it's an OTA digital video recorder.> http://www.mediasonic.ca/product.php?id=1365123671Or as they say, " ATSC Digital Converter Box w/ TV Recording, Media Player, and TV Tuner Function" I call it the wife's soap recorder. Mikek
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On 1/24/2019 2:22 PM, bitrex wrote:> On 01/24/2019 03:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:54:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> BTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it >>> appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note >>> that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition >>> table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when >>> formatting. >> >> If the camera really does have a 2GB limit, it's probably FAT32 with >> an MBR. >> >> Try a FAT32 specific format program: >> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm> >> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm> >> >> > > It looks to be a $40 DVR but yeesh, FAT32 only in 2019? I'd spend a > little more if that's the case what's it going to do when recording > 1080p? You'll hit 4 gig file size limit real quick. > > I've been reading the French manual the only problem with that is I > don't know French. And it's in French. cuz it's a French manual. > > Oh it's got parental controls, great, wouldn't want the kids to see all > that porn PBS broadcasts OTA around here...From what I've gleaned, it's setup for NTFS. But, it still doesn't work. Mike
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On 1/24/2019 2:54 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:22:53 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 01/24/2019 03:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:54:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>> BTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it >>>> appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note >>>> that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition >>>> table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when formatting. >>> >>> If the camera really does have a 2GB limit, it's probably FAT32 with >>> an MBR. >>> >>> Try a FAT32 specific format program: >>> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm> >>> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm> > >> It looks to be a $40 DVR but yeesh, FAT32 only in 2019? I'd spend a >> little more if that's the case what's it going to do when recording >> 1080p? You'll hit 4 gig file size limit real quick. >> >> I've been reading the French manual the only problem with that is I >> don't know French. And it's in French. cuz it's a French manual. >> >> Oh it's got parental controls, great, wouldn't want the kids to see all >> that porn PBS broadcasts OTA around here... > > My Jr High Skool French is a lost cause. Digging anyway: > <http://www.mediasonic.ca/product.php?id=1365123671> > The manual is at: > <http://www.mediasonic.ca/files/1382658092_1.pdf> > On Pg 15 is a table (that won't let me cut-n-paste) that shows: > TIMESHIFT PVR RECORD FORMAT > USB flash drive functions functions FAT32 > 3.5 inch HDD functions functions NTFS > 2.5 inch HDD functions functions NTFS / FAT32 > 1.8 inch HDD won't work functions NTFS / FAT32 > > On the data sheet it proclaims: > USB Multimedia Player (Support USB Flash Drive up to 64GB > or USB 3.5" External Hard Drive up to 2TB). > and > Recording Function: Record TV Show (Suggest to use USB 2.5" > or 3.5" External Hard Drive, Hard Drive formate MBR) > (USB Flash Drive NOT recommended) > > So, the 1TB Western Dismal drive should work if it can be convinced to > do MBR flavor partitions in NTFS. No mention of block sizes so both > 512 bytes and 4KBytes should be tried. >Ok, it's a 2TB Western Digital drive with NTFS formating. Now we are above my knowledge. How can I tell if the NTFS is GPT or MBR?> "Convert GPT to MBR" > <https://neosmart.net/wiki/convert-gpt-to-mbr/> > "Convert a GPT disk into an MBR disk" > <https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/windowsserverdocs/blob/master/WindowsServerDocs/storage/disk-management/change-an-mbr-disk-into-a-gpt-disk.md> >Here's an English version, click 17 for the chart you typed out above. Still looking for a regular English manual. Even though the manufacturer says do not use a Thumbdrive, we used a 64GB for about two years without flaw, the thumbdrive was high end when I bought it. She finally filled it up and wanted to splurge for more storage. I was surprised, it had about 22 hours on it, someone posted they had 55 hours on a 32GB, but after checking 22 hours is about full on a 64GB thumbdrive. Original question; "If USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 speed is 10Gbps, What is the speed of 10Gbps in MB/s (Answer must include MB/s):" Ok, I have tried 1000MB/s, 1250MB/s and 1212.12MB/s and I get, "You have provided an invalid answer to the question." to all. This is so I can ask questions on the Mediasonic forum. Mikek
