Reply by amdx January 31, 20192019-01-31
On 1/24/2019 8:03 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:01:29 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote: > >> Ok, it's a 2TB Western Digital drive with NTFS formating. >> Now we are above my knowledge. >> How can I tell if the NTFS is GPT or MBR? > > Ummm... disclose the exact Western Dismal model number? > If that's too easy, the USB drive should work in any Windoze PC. Plug > it in and check the "properties" on the drive. There are also PC > hardware listing programs. I use Speccy: > <https://www.ccleaner.com/speccy> > It will try to install Crap Cleaner. Don't let it. > >>> "Convert GPT to MBR" >>> <https://neosmart.net/wiki/convert-gpt-to-mbr/> >>> "Convert a GPT disk into an MBR disk" >>> <https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/windowsserverdocs/blob/master/WindowsServerDocs/storage/disk-management/change-an-mbr-disk-into-a-gpt-disk.md> >
Had to use this,
> https://www.howtogeek.com/245610/how-to-check-if-a-disk-uses-gpt-or-mbr-and-how-to-convert-between-the-two/Then use, Option Two: Use the Diskpart Command (option One didn't work)
The drive was GPT and it was successfully converted to MBR. (and says it is MBR) However, the Mediasonic still says "No disk Detected" The hard drive light is on, using an external power supply. So, back to the genius at the Mediasonic forum. Mikek
Reply by amdx January 27, 20192019-01-27
On 1/25/2019 2:19 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
> amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote in news:q2ctf2$pla$1@dont-email.me: > >> To prevent spambots I need to answer this question to confirm >> registration to a forum. >> >> "If USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 speed is 10Gbps, What is the speed of >> 10Gbps in MB/s (Answer must include MB/s):" >> >> I thought it would just be Gig to Meg or 1000, but I ge,t "that >> is an >> invalid answer", So I googled and found: >> " 10 Gigabit Ethernet speed 10 Gbit/s = 1250 Megabytes per second" >> But that also gives me a "that is an invalid answer". >> Yes, I putting it in MB/s form, either 1000MB/s or 1250MB/s >> >> Any ideas? >> Mikek >> > > It must just be syntax. > > Think 8 bit words. > > So essentially divide by ten to make up for ecc and overhead. > > Your post title is wrong too. It should be a lower case "b" as in > bits per second instead of bytes per second > > Gb/s to MB/s >
Yes, made for more confusion, I'm too good at that. Mikek --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Reply by DLUNU January 27, 20192019-01-27
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> On 01/24/2019 08:15 PM, amdx wrote: >> On 1/24/2019 3:07 PM, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:30:14 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/24/2019 1:14 PM, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 11:42:55 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To prevent spambots I need to answer this question to confirm >>>>>> registration to a forum. >>>>>> >>>>>> "If USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 speed is 10Gbps, What is the speed of >>>>>> 10Gbps in >>>>>> MB/s (Answer must include MB/s):" >>>>>> >>>>>> &nbsp;&nbsp; I thought it would just be Gig to Meg or 1000, but I ge,t >>>>>> "that is an >>>>>> invalid answer", So I googled and found: >>>>>> " 10 Gigabit Ethernet speed 10 Gbit/s = 1250 Megabytes per >>>>>> second" But that also gives me a "that is an invalid answer". >>>>>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, I putting it in MB/s form, either 1000MB/s or >>>>>> 1250MB/s >>>>> >>>>> Just divide the bit rate by 10 to get the net bytes/s will give >>>>> quite correct results. Place remember the preamble, Ethernet >>>>> headers and possible IP headers and possible TCP header, >>>>> especially if 1500 byte standard Ethernet frames are used. With >>>>> 9000 byte Jumbo frames, you might get slightly better than >>>>> that. For practical purposes 10 Gbit/s is about 1 GByte/s. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mikek >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> &nbsp; 10Gbit/s = 1GByte/s = 1000MByte/s >>>> Do you agree that 1GByte/s equals 1000MByte/s ? >>> >>> Are you trying to troll in this newsgroups or are americans >>> really that stupid that they do not understand the relationship >>> between kilo, mega, giga, tera etc ? >>> >>>> >>>> &nbsp; Google is showing me 10Mbps = 1250MB/s multiple times, but >>>> that didn't work as an answer. >>> >>> What is this ? 1250 Mbytes/s is 10000 Mbit/s assuming a byte is 8 >>> bits, which of course not a universal truth. In addition, you >>> have to include any overhead in the form of message framing. >> >> Why would you ask if I'm trolling, then give me the answer and >> tell me it is not a universal truth. And then start talking about >> overhead. >> &nbsp;Sheesh, you don't know the answer either. >> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mikek >> > > <https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10Gbps+to+MB%2Fs> >
I have spectrum at 100 Mb/s When I DL an ISO image of Ubuntu Studio, I get an inbound stream at 13.6 MB/s. That is my connection pretty much maxed out. The exception is that I can get that stream coming in and still get other 'sockets' moving at a pretty good clip too. So I am most definitely getting full service at the advertised rate. Way better than fool service, but we end up that way when the bill arrives. Cable and internet should be about half what it is. The cable companies are making hundreds of millions a month, and that is way over their operating costs. Greedy bastards... that is what cable companies are. And all this "oh, you do not have that channel, would you like to upgrade?" shit is lame too.
Reply by bitrex January 25, 20192019-01-25
On 01/24/2019 08:15 PM, amdx wrote:
> On 1/24/2019 3:07 PM, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:30:14 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote: >> >>> On 1/24/2019 1:14 PM, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote: >>>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 11:42:55 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> To prevent spambots I need to answer this question to confirm >>>>> registration to a forum. >>>>> >>>>> "If USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 speed is 10Gbps, What is the speed of >>>>> 10Gbps in >>>>> MB/s (Answer must include MB/s):" >>>>> >>>>> &nbsp;&nbsp; I thought it would just be Gig to Meg or 1000, but I ge,t "that >>>>> is an >>>>> invalid answer", So I googled and found: >>>>> " 10 Gigabit Ethernet speed 10 Gbit/s = 1250 Megabytes per second" >>>>> But that also gives me a "that is an invalid answer". >>>>> &nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, I putting it in MB/s form, either 1000MB/s or 1250MB/s >>>> >>>> Just divide the bit rate by 10 to get the net bytes/s will give quite >>>> correct results. Place remember the preamble, Ethernet headers and >>>> possible IP headers and possible TCP header, especially if 1500 byte >>>> standard Ethernet frames are used. With 9000 byte Jumbo frames, you >>>> might get slightly better than that. For practical purposes 10 Gbit/s >>>> is about 1 GByte/s. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? >>>>> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mikek >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> &nbsp; 10Gbit/s = 1GByte/s = 1000MByte/s >>> Do you agree that 1GByte/s equals 1000MByte/s ? >> >> Are you trying to troll in this newsgroups or are americans really >> that stupid that they do not understand the relationship between kilo, >> mega, giga, tera etc ? >> >>> >>> &nbsp; Google is showing me 10Mbps = 1250MB/s multiple times, but that >>> didn't work as an answer. >> >> What is this ? 1250 Mbytes/s is 10000 Mbit/s assuming a byte is 8 >> bits, which of course not a universal truth. In addition, you have to >> include any overhead in the form of message framing. > > Why would you ask if I'm trolling, then give me the answer and tell me > it is not a universal truth. And then start talking about overhead. > &nbsp;Sheesh, you don't know the answer either. > &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mikek >
<https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10Gbps+to+MB%2Fs>
Reply by Jeff Liebermann January 25, 20192019-01-25
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:33:03 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
>Now that I've been allowed to become a member of the Mediasonic forum, >I hope a factory rep will fill in all the details for the HW150.
Very good. What can go wrong now? My guess(tm) is that you'll get your questions answered in French. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Reply by Jeff Liebermann January 25, 20192019-01-25
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:28:45 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

>WD 2TB Elements Portable External Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBU6Y0020BBK-WESN >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W55K9N6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
<https://www.wd.com/content/dam/wdc/website/downloadable_assets/eng/product_overview/4178-705765.pdf> Formatted NTFS for Windows&#4294967295; 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 7. Reformatting required for other operating systems. Looks like a Windoze only hard disk, which means 4K sectors and GPT partitioning since it's over 1TB. My guess(tm) is that your DVR doesn't know about GPT.
>> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1012977/Homeworx-Hw-150pvr.html?page=1#manual
Thanks.
>> It's asking for "the speed of 10Gbps" which to me means divide by 8. >> Try putting a space between the 1250 and the MB/s. >> Try is with just 1250 and no units of measure. >> Try using GBps instead of GB/s. It might be screwing up on the "/"
> Ya, I did get in. It required a space between 1250 and MB/s. 1250 MB/s >Even the the question didn't show that way.
That was my first guess(tm). -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Reply by John S January 25, 20192019-01-25
On 1/24/2019 9:28 PM, Don Kuenz wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote: > > <snip> > >> Try putting a space between the 1250 and the MB/s. > > 1250 MB/s is the answer that they want. Mike, let us know what you learn. > > Thank you, >
I think your answer is the correct one. I think most others have overlooked the fact that the common interpretation of a byte is 8 bits.
Reply by January 25, 20192019-01-25
amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote in news:q2d2q5$tr5$1@dont-email.me:

> OK, maybe you can answer my question then. > I have Mediasonic HW150 digital Video recorder. > I recently purchased a WD 1T hard drive, when installed > and I try to record, it says no disk found. Although it > does recognize a USB cable was inserted. > The drive is in NTFS file format, do I need to change that to > FAT32? > Mikek >
exfat
Reply by January 25, 20192019-01-25
amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote in news:q2ctf2$pla$1@dont-email.me:

> To prevent spambots I need to answer this question to confirm > registration to a forum. > > "If USB 3.1 Type-C Gen 2 speed is 10Gbps, What is the speed of > 10Gbps in MB/s (Answer must include MB/s):" > > I thought it would just be Gig to Meg or 1000, but I ge,t "that > is an > invalid answer", So I googled and found: > " 10 Gigabit Ethernet speed 10 Gbit/s = 1250 Megabytes per second" > But that also gives me a "that is an invalid answer". > Yes, I putting it in MB/s form, either 1000MB/s or 1250MB/s > > Any ideas? > Mikek >
It must just be syntax. Think 8 bit words. So essentially divide by ten to make up for ecc and overhead. Your post title is wrong too. It should be a lower case "b" as in bits per second instead of bytes per second Gb/s to MB/s
Reply by amdx January 24, 20192019-01-24
On 1/24/2019 8:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:23:34 -0600, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote: > >> On 1/24/2019 2:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:54:12 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>> BTW I just played around with the formatting utility in Windows and it >>>> appears to select "GPT"-type partition table for NTFS by default, note >>>> that the manual says the box does _not_ support GPT and the partition >>>> table must be MBR-style, so you have to select that instead when formatting. >>> >>> If the camera really does have a 2GB limit, it's probably FAT32 with >>> an MBR. >>> >>> Try a FAT32 specific format program: >>> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm> >>> <http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm> > >> It's not a camera it's an OTA digital video recorder. >>> http://www.mediasonic.ca/product.php?id=1365123671 >> Or as they say, " ATSC Digital Converter Box w/ TV Recording, Media >> Player, and TV Tuner Function" >> I call it the wife's soap recorder. >> Mikek > > Sorry. I automatically associate DVR's (digital video recoders) with > security camera systems. Replace "camera" with "DVR". Also, since it > has a 2TB limit, not 2GB, it can handle NTFS. There's also exFAT, but > since it wasn't mentioned in the literature, I don't think it's > needed. > > WD Format tool: > <https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=3868> > Might be useful to return the drive to it's original NTFS condition. > > The programs I suggested for FAT32 work nicely for reformatting hard > disk drives and USB flash drives. I run into that ocassionally when I > need to cram a modern drive into an older DVR. However, I think NTFS > and an MBR partition will make things work. >
Now that I've been allowed to become a member of the Mediasonic forum, I hope a factory rep will fill in all the details for the HW150. Mikek