On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 20:45:14 +0200, Cursitor Doom <cd@spamfreezone.net> wrote:>On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:17:39 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > > >>I thought the job posting rather hilarious... needed, a PhD, but must >>be able to handle a multimeter... >:-} > >Must be a joke job posting surely; can't possibly be serious."Indeed Job Alert <alert@indeed.com>" ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Tim Wescott wrote:> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 08:42:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> Job posting... >> >> "Synaptics - Phoenix, AZ ... Ph.D. program in E.E. Analog circuit >> coursework and hands-on lab experience a must Hands-on experience with >> digital multi-meter, oscilloscope, etc...." > > They must have hired some of the other kind. > > My uncle used to work for Boeing. When he interviewed engineering > candidates he'd make sure to have a soldering iron in his drawer. At > some point he'd casually pick it up and hand it, point-first, to the > candidate, with a "here". > > If you grabbed it by the point (which, apparently, many did), your > interview was polite and short, and you didn't get hired. >I do similar things when tasked with interviewing people, although on the whiteboard instead of with tools. Well, I did place some folks in front of a scope and asked them to make something visible without using the granny button. Lately when I tried to explain this to a university professor he said that's ridiculous. This kind of reaction by people in charge of the next generation is the real sad part. Although when candidates wake up at the point in life where they are inundated with academic demands it's usually a bit late to get the hang of practical stuff, at least in the analog world. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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> Yep. The specifics of job postings are getting ridiculous. "We want > a PLL expert for the exact band of 5.0-5.1GHz, used with the magico > modulo modulation method, and performed the design in the last six > months."May be part of an INS application. They can't hire anyone local, but they have an international worker that can do the job. Just need a work visa.
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On 04/08/2014 04:36 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:25:45 +0100, "Kevin Aylward" > <ExtractkevinRemove@kevinaylward.co.uk> wrote: > >> "Jim Thompson" wrote in message >> news:h488k95o3fn95c45vknqmnpcldfoo7m5qd@4ax.com... >> >> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:14:22 -0700, RobertMacy >> <robert.a.macy@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 08:42:38 -0700, Jim Thompson >>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Job posting... >>>> >>>> "Synaptics - Phoenix, AZ >>>> ... Ph.D. program in E.E. Analog circuit coursework and hands-on lab >>>> experience a must Hands-on experience with digital multi-meter, >>>> oscilloscope, etc...." >>>> >>>> Bwahahahaha >:-} >>>> >>>> ...Jim Thompson >>> >>> aren't they HQ'd in Santa Clara, CA? >> >> I don't know, I think so. >> >>> Jim Tiernan still president? >> >> I don't know the management structure. >> >>> >>> have you done work for them? >> >> Yes. The Rochester (NY) group... touch screens. >> >>> I thought the job posting rather hilarious... needed, a PhD, but must >>> be able to handle a multimeter... >:-} >> >> My experience is that hiring personnel usually have no idea what actually >> matters in hiring someone. >> >> I have this on my personal site: >> >> Employer rejection: "Lack of experience" >> >> Actual meaning: >> >> "We have no idea whatsoever how to do the product we are currently >> developing, and so are looking for someone that can bring across all the >> schematics from their present company, that is doing an almost identical >> product. We can then do some minimal window dressing and release that >> product as our own. We don't actually require you to have any of these >> design skills personally and it is unlikely that you do, only a decent >> memory so that you don't have to physically copy the designs that others >> have made. This is avoid any possible legal repercussions such as liability >> for trade theft." >> >> >> Kevin Aylward B.Sc. >> www.anasoft.co.uk > > Yep. The specifics of job postings are getting ridiculous. "We want > a PLL expert for the exact band of 5.0-5.1GHz, used with the magico > modulo modulation method, and performed the design in the last six > months." > > ...Jim Thompson >That's because they already know who they want to hire, so they basically take his resume and make it the job posting. Result: only one qualified candidate, no regulatory worries. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
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Den tirsdag den 8. april 2014 22.52.10 UTC+2 skrev edward....@gmail.com:> > Yep. The specifics of job postings are getting ridiculous. "We want > > > a PLL expert for the exact band of 5.0-5.1GHz, used with the magico > > > modulo modulation method, and performed the design in the last six > > > months." > > > > May be part of an INS application. They can't hire anyone local, but they have an international worker that can do the job. Just need a work visa.would make sense, they could have had the guy working on that specific thing in another country for 6 months and then decide to move him locally I've had an L-1B which is basically that case though it is only for people working within the same company or subsidiaries and max 3 years -Lasse
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 14:10:19 -0400, the renowned Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>On 04/08/2014 02:08 PM, RobertMacy wrote: >> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:17:39 -0700, Jim Thompson >> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote: >> >>>> ...snip... >>> I thought the job posting rather hilarious... needed, a PhD, but must >>> be able to handle a multimeter... >:-} >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >> it did seem a bit condescending. > >Just trying to weed out the hard core algorithm guys. There's an >industry perception that Ph.D. EEs are too specialized and want to keep >doing their thesis work for the rest of their careers. > >Cheers > >Phil HobbsBoth the PhDs I've been supervising for the last 2-3 years can handle test equipment and such like competently. I don't think it's their favorite thing, particularly the more theoretical guy. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:50:00 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:>Tim Wescott wrote: >> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 08:42:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >> >>> Job posting... >>> >>> "Synaptics - Phoenix, AZ ... Ph.D. program in E.E. Analog circuit >>> coursework and hands-on lab experience a must Hands-on experience with >>> digital multi-meter, oscilloscope, etc...." >> >> They must have hired some of the other kind. >> >> My uncle used to work for Boeing. When he interviewed engineering >> candidates he'd make sure to have a soldering iron in his drawer. At >> some point he'd casually pick it up and hand it, point-first, to the >> candidate, with a "here". >> >> If you grabbed it by the point (which, apparently, many did), your >> interview was polite and short, and you didn't get hired. >> > >I do similar things when tasked with interviewing people, although on >the whiteboard instead of with tools. Well, I did place some folks in >front of a scope and asked them to make something visible without using >the granny button.My first day at IBM, I was shown a bench with a nice pretty new 7904 on a cart in front of it. After five minutes I had to ask where the power switch was. For those of you kids unfamiliar with the 7904, the power switch was a *big* bat handled switch right in the middle of the front panel. I was looking at all the other controls trying to figure out where they hid the power switch. ;-)>Lately when I tried to explain this to a university professor he said >that's ridiculous. This kind of reaction by people in charge of the next >generation is the real sad part. Although when candidates wake up at the >point in life where they are inundated with academic demands it's >usually a bit late to get the hang of practical stuff, at least in the >analog world.
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On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:10:19 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:> On 04/08/2014 02:08 PM, RobertMacy wrote: > > > On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:17:39 -0700, Jim Thompson > > > <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote: > > > > > >>> ...snip... > > >> I thought the job posting rather hilarious... needed, a PhD, but must > > >> be able to handle a multimeter... >:-} > > >> > > >> ...Jim Thompson > > > > > > it did seem a bit condescending. > > > > Just trying to weed out the hard core algorithm guys. There's an > > industry perception that Ph.D. EEs are too specialized and want to keep > > doing their thesis work for the rest of their careers. > > > > Cheers > > > > Phil Hobbs > > > > -- > > Dr Philip C D Hobbs > > Principal Consultant > > ElectroOptical Innovations LLC > > Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics > > > > 160 North State Road #203 > > Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 > > > > hobbs at electrooptical dot net > > http://electrooptical.netThis notion is not unfounded. EE/CE/CS PhDs in academia do exactly that and hope that funding agencies keep providing money to support all this arcane mumbo jumbo forever. For example, a group profs at UT Austin ECE dept have been slogging away for the last several years on a 'mathematical theory of wireless networks' and are nowhere close to a meaningful solution.
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:36:45 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:>> ...snip... > Yep. The specifics of job postings are getting ridiculous. "We want > a PLL expert for the exact band of 5.0-5.1GHz, used with the magico > modulo modulation method, and performed the design in the last six > months." > > ...Jim ThompsonGreat idea! Hiring people like that is guaranteed to get people with skills to make designs that give you the edge to beat your competitors, not! As in same song, second verse.
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:50:00 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> = wrote:>Tim Wescott wrote: >> On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 08:42:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >>=20 >>> Job posting... >>> >>> "Synaptics - Phoenix, AZ ... Ph.D. program in E.E. Analog circuit >>> coursework and hands-on lab experience a must Hands-on experience =with>>> digital multi-meter, oscilloscope, etc...." >>=20 >> They must have hired some of the other kind. >>=20 >> My uncle used to work for Boeing. When he interviewed engineering=20 >> candidates he'd make sure to have a soldering iron in his drawer. At=20 >> some point he'd casually pick it up and hand it, point-first, to the=20 >> candidate, with a "here". >>=20 >> If you grabbed it by the point (which, apparently, many did), your=20 >> interview was polite and short, and you didn't get hired. >>=20 > >I do similar things when tasked with interviewing people, although on >the whiteboard instead of with tools. Well, I did place some folks in >front of a scope and asked them to make something visible without using >the granny button. > >Lately when I tried to explain this to a university professor he said >that's ridiculous. This kind of reaction by people in charge of the next >generation is the real sad part. Although when candidates wake up at the >point in life where they are inundated with academic demands it's >usually a bit late to get the hang of practical stuff, at least in the >analog world.It is a problem in the "digital" world as well. Many young engineers = have far too little understanding of the rather analog aspects of timing margins, multiple signal skew, jitter, and a myriad other analog type issues in high speed digital work. PCIe is a study in how that is turned into pre-canned stuff where you just buy the IP for the chip and move on. ?-) =20
