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Started by Jim Thompson April 8, 2014
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:43:58 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote:

> When I graduated, back in 1987, I wanted to be a professor, but I was > always quite clear that I didn't ever want to be an _assistant_ > professor. So I went to IBM Research, hoping to be there about 5 or 6 > years, publish a bunch of papers, and slide into a tenured position that > way. (Used to be quite possible, back when US industrial labs still had > their health.) > > Then the Berlin Wall came down, and the DARPA/NRL/USAF gravy train came > to a screeching halt, so I stayed where I was. Given how miserable it > is being a prof these days, I'm pretty happy about that. >
It's funny because I was doing my thesis at that time, finishing in 1992. I worked with some folks from Yorktown Heights, and I asked them about any positions at their lab as I was getting close to defending. They wrote back that not only they didn't have any openings, but were afraid for their own positions.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:54:51 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

>On Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:30:07 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:12:20 -0700 (PDT), >> >> bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:37:35 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:00:17 -0700 (PDT), >> >> >> >> >> >> bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:04:34 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> My first day at IBM, I was shown a bench with a nice pretty new 7904 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on a cart in front of it. After five minutes I had to ask where the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> power switch was. For those of you kids unfamiliar with the 7904, the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> power switch was a *big* bat handled switch right in the middle of the >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> front panel. I was looking at all the other controls trying to figure >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> out where they hid the power switch. ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >After that they stuck you in the braindead logic CAD division to be used as a body they could bill to some joke government funded boondoggle...typical. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> All you lefties can do is lie, but that's nothing new to anyone here. >> >> >> >> >> >> It's really sad that your life is so shallow that you have to follow >> >> >> >> >> >> me like a little puppy, though. Perhaps if you learned something, >> >> >> >> >> >> yourself... >> >> > >> >> >You should talk about learning anything. All we get out of you is a bunch lowbrow flames and laughably sorry ass attempts at erudition. You can't even use an analog oscilloscope, and this after you obtained your diploma mill degree from SurePassU. >> >> >> >> You are one sick puppy, Bloggs. You give Slowman a run for his money. > >We're still waiting for you to link us to your post that corrected me??? Where the hell is it, and how damned dumb are you that you can't remember any other details?
Seek help, Bloggs. Seriously. You have severe mental problems.
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:05:53 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:
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<snip> How do you bend a 2x4 ?? G=B2
On Friday, 11 April 2014 12:27:34 UTC+10, k...@attt.bizz  wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:54:51 -0700 (PDT),=20 > bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: =20 > >On Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:30:07 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote:=20 > >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:12:20 -0700 (PDT), =20 > >> bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:=20 > >> >On Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:37:35 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote:=
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unch lowbrow flames and laughably sorry ass attempts at erudition. You can'= t even use an analog oscilloscope, and this after you obtained your diploma= mill degree from SurePassU.=20
> >> =20 > >> You are one sick puppy, Bloggs. You give Sloman a run for his money.
I appreciate the compliment, though I doubt if krw intended it to be one. =20
> >We're still waiting for you to link us to your post that corrected me???=
Where the hell is it, and how damned dumb are you that you can't remember = any other details?=20
> =20 > Seek help, Bloggs. Seriously. You have severe mental problems.
Expecting krw to support any of his claims with actual evidence is a trifle= unrealistic. Krw knows what he knows and expects everybody else to be able= to access the same database, incomplete and flawed though it may be (not t= hat krw has any way of finding this out). It's krw who has the severe mental problem, but there's no point in telling= him to seek help - he knows that he is perfect just the way that he is (wh= ich happens to be wrong), and not susceptible to improvement (which is unfo= rtunately true, and most of the problem). The phrase "sea-green incorruptible" comes to mind. --=20 Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:48:44 -0700 (PDT), stratus46
<stratus46@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:05:53 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote: ><snip> >> I've had to teach a theoretician how to hammer a nail into a 2x4 without >> >> bending it. But some of them are great--I used to work with one of the >> >> gurus of quantum computing theory, and he was a thoroughly practical >> >> character. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Phil Hobbs >> ><snip> > >How do you bend a 2x4 ?? > >G&#4294967295;
All you need to do is take the strapping off it and it will bend by itself. -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
On 04/10/2014 11:48 PM, stratus46 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:05:53 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote: > <snip> >> I've had to teach a theoretician how to hammer a nail into a 2x4 without >> >> bending it. But some of them are great--I used to work with one of the >> >> gurus of quantum computing theory, and he was a thoroughly practical >> >> character. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Phil Hobbs >> > <snip> > > How do you bend a 2x4 ?? > > G&#4294967295; >
Steam and patience. ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
On 04/10/2014 09:14 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:43:58 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote: > >> When I graduated, back in 1987, I wanted to be a professor, but I was >> always quite clear that I didn't ever want to be an _assistant_ >> professor. So I went to IBM Research, hoping to be there about 5 or 6 >> years, publish a bunch of papers, and slide into a tenured position that >> way. (Used to be quite possible, back when US industrial labs still had >> their health.) >> >> Then the Berlin Wall came down, and the DARPA/NRL/USAF gravy train came >> to a screeching halt, so I stayed where I was. Given how miserable it >> is being a prof these days, I'm pretty happy about that. >> > > It's funny because I was doing my thesis at that time, finishing in 1992. > I worked with some folks from Yorktown Heights, and I asked them about > any positions at their lab as I was getting close to defending. They > wrote back that not only they didn't have any openings, but were afraid > for their own positions. >
Yeah, '92 was a tough year. IBM was the world's most profitable corporation in 1990, and two years later lost $8bn, the largest corporate loss to that date. Stuff got less fun after that. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 160 North State Road #203 Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:48:44 -0700 (PDT), stratus46
<stratus46@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:05:53 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote: ><snip> >> I've had to teach a theoretician how to hammer a nail into a 2x4 without >> >> bending it. But some of them are great--I used to work with one of the >> >> gurus of quantum computing theory, and he was a thoroughly practical >> >> character. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Phil Hobbs >> ><snip> > >How do you bend a 2x4 ??
Steam but most, these days, come "pre-bent".
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:17:00 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 04/10/2014 09:14 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: >> On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:43:58 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> >>> When I graduated, back in 1987, I wanted to be a professor, but I was >>> always quite clear that I didn't ever want to be an _assistant_ >>> professor. So I went to IBM Research, hoping to be there about 5 or 6 >>> years, publish a bunch of papers, and slide into a tenured position that >>> way. (Used to be quite possible, back when US industrial labs still had >>> their health.) >>> >>> Then the Berlin Wall came down, and the DARPA/NRL/USAF gravy train came >>> to a screeching halt, so I stayed where I was. Given how miserable it >>> is being a prof these days, I'm pretty happy about that. >>> >> >> It's funny because I was doing my thesis at that time, finishing in 1992. >> I worked with some folks from Yorktown Heights, and I asked them about >> any positions at their lab as I was getting close to defending. They >> wrote back that not only they didn't have any openings, but were afraid >> for their own positions. >> > >Yeah, '92 was a tough year. IBM was the world's most profitable >corporation in 1990, and two years later lost $8bn, the largest >corporate loss to that date.
They told us (somewhat later) that IBM was two weeks from missing payroll at the end of '92. Akers had been borrowing money to pay dividends for a decade.
>Stuff got less fun after that.
You bet! Miserable, in fact.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 11 April 2014 12:27:34 UTC+10, k...@attt.bizz wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:54:51 -0700 (PDT), >> bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: >> >On Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:30:07 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote: >> >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:12:20 -0700 (PDT), >> >> bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >On Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:37:35 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:00:17 -0700 (PDT), >> >> >> bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 9:04:34 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> My first day at IBM, I was shown a bench with a nice pretty new >> >> >> >> 7904 on a cart in front of it. After five minutes I had to ask >> >> >> >> where the power switch was. For those of you kids unfamiliar with >> >> >> >> the 7904, the power switch was a *big* bat handled switch >> >> >> >> right in the middle of the front panel. I was looking at all the >> >> >> >> other controls trying to figure out where they hid the power >> >> >> >> switch. ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >After that they stuck you in the braindead logic CAD division to be used as a body they could bill to some joke government funded boondoggle...typical. >> >> >> >> >> >> All you lefties can do is lie, but that's nothing new to anyone here. > >You have to remember that what krw means by "lie" is "advance an opinion that krw doesn't agree with". > >> >> >> It's really sad that your life is so shallow that you have to follow >> >> >> me like a little puppy, though. Perhaps if you learned something, >> >> >> yourself... >> >> >> >> >You should talk about learning anything. All we get out of you is a bunch lowbrow flames and laughably sorry ass attempts at erudition. You can't even use an analog oscilloscope, and this after you obtained your diploma mill degree from SurePassU. >> >> >> >> You are one sick puppy, Bloggs. You give Sloman a run for his money. > >I appreciate the compliment, though I doubt if krw intended it to be one.
Only someone as stupid as you would take it as a compliment. <snipped nothing of interest to anyone>