Twisted Pair

In article <95d1f881-003d-4da4-81e6-f08441719230@googlegroups.com>, 
bill.sloman@gmail.com says...
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> On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 09:22:02 UTC+11, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.  wrote:
> > In article <aegaa9ds1ar52vjv3v0fakrjbi5qbg93ul@4ax.com>, DLU1
> > @DecadentLinuxUser.org says.. 
> > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:54:07 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
> > > <bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us: 
> > >  
> > > >I know that it's dorkish to intrude facts into a pissing contest, but someone who posts under a constantly changing alias is at a substantial disadvantage when he wants to claim to have been here for a long time. We did have our resident idiots early on, but my feeling is that you weren't one of them. 
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> <snip>
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> > >   Probably here since late '94 or '95 on.  You lose.
> > 
> > SLow-Man is just a proxy!
> 
> It's not a proxy I use. But then I do know how my name is spelled on my birth certificate and my passport, and in my publications in the peer-reviewed literature.
> 
> The Decadent Linux User and Maynard A. Philbrook Jnr. may have to work harder at keeping their identities organised.


 That went over your head, nothing new :)
Jamie

On Monday, December 9, 2013 12:13:52 PM UTC-5, Robert Macy wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 09:58:35 -0700, <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com>  
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> wrote:
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> > On Monday, December 9, 2013 2:39:58 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
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> >> "Necessitates"? Dispersion is a frequency dependent difference in  
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> >> propagation velocity, and necessarily smears out non-sinusoidal  
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> >> waveforms, where the various Fourier components are propagating at  
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> >> different velocities.
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> > Yes, and you can't have frequency dependent propagation velocity without  
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> > frequency dependent loss, and vice versa.
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> does that include a lossless transmission line made up of Z(f) and C(f)  
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> elements?

I would expect with that ideality you could achieve frequency dependent propagtion velocity.

On Monday, December 9, 2013 11:37:58 PM UTC+1, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 09:22:02 UTC+11, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.  w=
rote:
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> > In article <aegaa9ds1ar52vjv3v0fakrjbi5qbg93ul@4ax.com>, DLU1
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> > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:54:07 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
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> > > <bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:=20
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> > > >I know that it's dorkish to intrude facts into a pissing contest, bu=
t someone who posts under a constantly changing alias is at a substantial d=
isadvantage when he wants to claim to have been here for a long time. We di=
d have our resident idiots early on, but my feeling is that you weren't one=
 of them.=20
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> > >   Probably here since late '94 or '95 on.  You lose.
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> > SLow-Man is just a proxy!
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> It's not a proxy I use. But then I do know how my name is spelled on my b=
irth certificate and my passport, and in my publications in the peer-review=
ed literature.
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> The Decadent Linux User and Maynard A. Philbrook Jnr. may have to work ha=
rder at keeping their identities organised.

Anyone remember the quite amusing thread here 10 years ago.....?

It was some guy that posted questions and then had created another alias an=
d he answered the same question he had previously asked. Some clever guy tr=
acked down the IP route and same origin and he effectively disappeared from=
 that point on.

Cheers

Klaus

On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 10:09:56 UTC+11, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.  wro=
te:
> In article <95d1f881-003d-4da4-81e6-f08441719230@googlegroups.com>, =20
> bill.sloman@gmail.com says...
> > On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 09:22:02 UTC+11, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. =
 wrote:
> > > In article <aegaa9ds1ar52vjv3v0fakrjbi5qbg93ul@4ax.com>, DLU1
> > > @DecadentLinuxUser.org says..=20
> > > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:54:07 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman=20
> > > > <bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:=20
> > > > =20
> > > > >I know that it's dorkish to intrude facts into a pissing contest, =
but someone who posts under a constantly changing alias is at a substantial=
 disadvantage when he wants to claim to have been here for a long time. We =
did have our resident idiots early on, but my feeling is that you weren't o=
ne of them. =20
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> > <snip>
> >  =20
> > > >   Probably here since late '94 or '95 on.  You lose.=20

Not until Decadent Linux User spells out which alias he was using back then=
 - so we can get his current information provider to throw him off the web =
for his past misdeeds.
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> > > SLow-Man is just a proxy!=20
> > =20
> > It's not a proxy I use. But then I do know how my name is spelled on my=
 birth certificate and my passport, and in my publications in the peer-revi=
ewed literature.=20
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> > The Decadent Linux User and Maynard A. Philbrook Jnr. may have to work =
harder at keeping their identities organised.
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>  That went over your head, nothing new :)

But you can't explain what it was that you think I missed - or may have cho=
sen to ignore. Like the Decadent Linux User - who may be you for all we kno=
w - you want to claim a victory without providing any evidence to support y=
our claim.

--=20
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:48:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:

>Not until Decadent Linux User spells out which alias he was
> using back then - so we can get his current information
> provider to throw him off the web for his past misdeeds.
>  
>
  You're a goddamned idiot.

  There are idiots who posted lists, jackass.  Even a 20 IQ dumbfuck
like you should be able to work out the logic of your next required
steps.

  Oh and also, dumbfuck...  nothing I EVER "did" while under ANY other
provider can be actioned upon by any current provider, you retarded
piece of shit.

  And that is aside from the FACT that I never "did" anything to begin
with, you filthy, retarded piece of shit!

  And in case you are a totally fucking senile jackass, this is NOT "the
web", you stupid ditz!

  Only retarded, know nothing jackasses like you access Usenet via web
interfaces.  Easily noted by the fact that you are too goddamned stupid
to wrap your lines properly.

  So, in order to merely respond to your fucktard ass, I have to
manually wrap your pathetic tripe so folks can see what the retarded
shit is which I am responding to.

  You are so stupid, you hang out in an electronics group, yet have no
clue about electronics.  Good job, SloTard.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:48:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:

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>-- 
>Bill Sloman, Sydney

  Stop signing where you are at right now.  You make your current
continent of residence look bad.

On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 16:32:44 UTC+11, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno  w=
rote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:48:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
> <bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:
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> >Not until Decadent Linux User spells out which alias he was using back t=
hen - so we can get his current information provider to throw him off the w=
eb for his past misdeeds.=20
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>   You're a goddamned idiot.
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>   There are idiots who posted lists, jackass.  Even a 20 IQ dumbfuck
like you should be able to work out the logic of your next required  steps.

You are making the claim that you posted here in 1994 or 1995. It wasn't as=
 Decadent Linux User, so it's your responsibility to provide the alias that=
 you claim to have been using back then. I was Bill Sloman back in 1996 and=
 I'm Bill Sloman now.
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>   Oh and also, dumbfuck...  nothing I EVER "did" while under ANY other pr=
ovider can be actioned upon by any current provider, you retarded piece of =
shit.

That depends on what you did. Since you haven't told us who you purported t=
o be back then, I can imagine what I like, and there were certain regulars =
who did get into trouble with their information providers, and come back wi=
th different aliases, posting from different addresses.

>   And that is aside from the FACT that I never "did" anything to begin
with, you filthy, retarded piece of shit!

Sure. The most likely hypothesis is that you weren't even born back then.
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>   And in case you are a totally fucking senile jackass, this is NOT "the =
web", you stupid ditz!

But if you misbehave badly enough in a user-group, the information provider=
 can can - and often did - protect themselves by renouncing the whole contr=
act.

>   Only retarded, know nothing jackasses like you access Usenet via web in=
terfaces.  Easily noted by the fact that you are too goddamned stupid to wr=
ap your lines properly.

Why should I bother? Only a half-wit reading on totally obsolete hardware i=
s going to be inconvenienced.
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>   So, in order to merely respond to your fucktard ass, I have to manually=
 wrap your pathetic tripe so folks can see what the retarded shit is which =
I am responding to.

And I have to wrap yours. Google's interface isn't ideal, but it's cheap an=
d convenient. Forte was cheap enough, but not all that convenient.

>   You are so stupid, you hang out in an electronics group, yet have no
clue about electronics.  Good job, SloTard.

I've got quite a few clues about electronics. E-mail me at bill.sloman@ieee=
.org
and you'll get a response. If you haven't been able to work this out from s=
tuff I've posted here since 1996, you've got to be monumentally ignorant ab=
out electronics yourself, or lying about the persistence of your presence a=
round here.

Of course both explanations could be - and probably are - correct.

--=20
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 16:34:39 UTC+11, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno  wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:48:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman 
> <bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us: 
> 
> >Bill Sloman, Sydney
>  
>   Stop signing where you are at right now.  You make your current continent of residence look bad.

So I'm supposed to lie about my location to make Australia look better? We've already got Phil Allison, but the US has krw, Jim Thompson and James Arthur. Even the Netherlands has Jan Panteltje.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:00:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:

> I can imagine what I like,

  And immediately get pegged as the retarded fuck that you are.

  Learn how to make proper posts to Usenet, you retarded jackass.

  That is about formatting, AND the CRAP the spews from your fingertips.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:00:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:

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>Sure. The most likely hypothesis is that you weren't even born back then.
> 
  That is why folks here place ZERO credence in ANY of your pathetic
attempts at making hypotheses.

  Your logic is planted firmly at nil.