D from BC <myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote in news:vu48h512hkft9897k3o3fhabgg13oup0nu@4ax.com:> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:28:06 -0600, AZ Nomad ><aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: > >>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:15:01 -0800, D from BC >><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:55:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>>Some time ago it was discussed here to use a laser from an old DVD >>>>burner. I joked you could scan using a mirror assembly, and when you >>>>get a reflection increase power and burn the bug. >>>>Joked the experiment would leave all sorts of burning spots on the >>>>wall paper. Then a while ago I read somebody at NASA actually did >>>>it, and they can, from the reflection frequency, even determine what >>>>sort of bug is in the beam, and *only* shoot mosquitos that way... >>>>No it was not April 1, but hey, I did think of it first :-) >>>> >>>>NASA reads this group? >> >>>Neato.. >> >>>I wonder if it'll become a pest control method.. >>>For example.. >>>A laser unit is placed on the floor, turned on and then it starts >>>scanning for crawling bugs ...especially roaches. >>>The scan height is low for low odds of blinding someone. >>>When a roach has been detected, a deadly pulse is triggered. >> >>>If there's no misses then it might be possible there will be no >>>damage to the baseboards (burnt spots) and low risk of setting the >>>house on fire. :P >> >>The amount of power to blind a bug should be orders of magnatude less >>than that which would cause baseboard burn spots. > > I think a laser bug burner would be more effective pest control than > bug blinder. > Roaches have very good odor receptors and iirc that is the primary way > roaches find food. > iirc.. roaches don't have much use for eyes. > > I vote for bug burner instead of bug blinder. > >roaches have antennas that are very sensitive to air current changes,move fast,and are pretty tough bugs. You ever see a Palmetto bug? It's a LARGE cockroach,about 1.5-2" long,full grown. They fly,too. I don't think a laser would bother them unless it was capable of frying it in an instant.You'd have trouble keeping the spot on it for any length of time. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com
OT: Blinding Bugs with a Laser Pointer
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:23:25 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:>D from BC <myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote in >news:vu48h512hkft9897k3o3fhabgg13oup0nu@4ax.com: > >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:28:06 -0600, AZ Nomad >><aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:15:01 -0800, D from BC >>><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >>>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:55:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>Some time ago it was discussed here to use a laser from an old DVD >>>>>burner. I joked you could scan using a mirror assembly, and when you >>>>>get a reflection increase power and burn the bug. >>>>>Joked the experiment would leave all sorts of burning spots on the >>>>>wall paper. Then a while ago I read somebody at NASA actually did >>>>>it, and they can, from the reflection frequency, even determine what >>>>>sort of bug is in the beam, and *only* shoot mosquitos that way... >>>>>No it was not April 1, but hey, I did think of it first :-) >>>>> >>>>>NASA reads this group? >>> >>>>Neato.. >>> >>>>I wonder if it'll become a pest control method.. >>>>For example.. >>>>A laser unit is placed on the floor, turned on and then it starts >>>>scanning for crawling bugs ...especially roaches. >>>>The scan height is low for low odds of blinding someone. >>>>When a roach has been detected, a deadly pulse is triggered. >>> >>>>If there's no misses then it might be possible there will be no >>>>damage to the baseboards (burnt spots) and low risk of setting the >>>>house on fire. :P >>> >>>The amount of power to blind a bug should be orders of magnatude less >>>than that which would cause baseboard burn spots. >> >> I think a laser bug burner would be more effective pest control than >> bug blinder. >> Roaches have very good odor receptors and iirc that is the primary way >> roaches find food. >> iirc.. roaches don't have much use for eyes. >> >> I vote for bug burner instead of bug blinder. >> >> > >roaches have antennas that are very sensitive to air current changes,move >fast,and are pretty tough bugs. >You ever see a Palmetto bug? It's a LARGE cockroach,about 1.5-2" long,full >grown. They fly,too.Found pic.. http://images.whatsthatbug.com/images/toebiter_tyler.jpg I think those are ones I saw in a movie. 'Bug' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072750/>I don't think a laser would bother them unless it was capable of frying it >in an instant.You'd have trouble keeping the spot on it for any length of >time.Yes.. Some testing and ~debugging~ will be required. :)
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A few beers and you'll forget you are sitting outside on your deck. That's not a fly, its a 747. -- Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Speed is n0 subsittute fo accurancy.
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:51:03 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote:>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:23:25 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> >wrote: > >>D from BC <myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote in >>news:vu48h512hkft9897k3o3fhabgg13oup0nu@4ax.com: >> >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:28:06 -0600, AZ Nomad >>><aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:15:01 -0800, D from BC >>>><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >>>>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:55:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>Some time ago it was discussed here to use a laser from an old DVD >>>>>>burner. I joked you could scan using a mirror assembly, and when you >>>>>>get a reflection increase power and burn the bug. >>>>>>Joked the experiment would leave all sorts of burning spots on the >>>>>>wall paper. Then a while ago I read somebody at NASA actually did >>>>>>it, and they can, from the reflection frequency, even determine what >>>>>>sort of bug is in the beam, and *only* shoot mosquitos that way... >>>>>>No it was not April 1, but hey, I did think of it first :-) >>>>>> >>>>>>NASA reads this group? >>>> >>>>>Neato.. >>>> >>>>>I wonder if it'll become a pest control method.. >>>>>For example.. >>>>>A laser unit is placed on the floor, turned on and then it starts >>>>>scanning for crawling bugs ...especially roaches. >>>>>The scan height is low for low odds of blinding someone. >>>>>When a roach has been detected, a deadly pulse is triggered. >>>> >>>>>If there's no misses then it might be possible there will be no >>>>>damage to the baseboards (burnt spots) and low risk of setting the >>>>>house on fire. :P >>>> >>>>The amount of power to blind a bug should be orders of magnatude less >>>>than that which would cause baseboard burn spots. >>> >>> I think a laser bug burner would be more effective pest control than >>> bug blinder. >>> Roaches have very good odor receptors and iirc that is the primary way >>> roaches find food. >>> iirc.. roaches don't have much use for eyes. >>> >>> I vote for bug burner instead of bug blinder. >>> >>> >> >>roaches have antennas that are very sensitive to air current changes,move >>fast,and are pretty tough bugs. >>You ever see a Palmetto bug? It's a LARGE cockroach,about 1.5-2" long,full >>grown. They fly,too. > >Found pic.. >http://images.whatsthatbug.com/images/toebiter_tyler.jpg > >I think those are ones I saw in a movie. >'Bug' >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072750/ > >>I don't think a laser would bother them unless it was capable of frying it >>in an instant.You'd have trouble keeping the spot on it for any length of >>time. > >Yes.. Some testing and ~debugging~ will be required. :)oops that bug pic link above is probably a giant water beetle. Found another.. http://lh5.ggpht.com/_e88exju_DJY/Ruf4LVMMtnI/AAAAAAAABBQ/xS5hPNLHd40/costa+rica+07+113.jpg Tiny hands can make big bugs bigger.
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:>In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4eak@4ax.com>, D from BC ><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: > >> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser >> spot. >> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) >> and aim it near the bug. >> It flies! >> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do >> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P >> >> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. >> I probably fried every light receptor. >> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost track >> of it. >> It did not reland on the ceiling. >> >> I need more power! :P >> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >> With sniper scope of course :) >> >You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) handheld >spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I got one, and one >evening I shined it up near the tops of the trees and zeroed in on a >flying moth. After a second or two it went into a tailspin and >eventually flew into the ground. I did another, and another, and >another until I was finally convinced that the bright light was indeed >corrupting their nav systems. And this was just a big flashlight from >50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a laser would do the same -- if you >could hold it right on the bug for a bit.For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night.
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Jan Panteltje wrote:> On a sunny day (Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:45:09 -0800) it happened D from BC > <myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote in > <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4eak@4ax.com>: > >> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser >> spot. >> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) >> and aim it near the bug. >> It flies! >> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do >> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P >> >> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. >> I probably fried every light receptor. >> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost track >> of it. >> It did not reland on the ceiling. >> >> I need more power! :P >> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >> With sniper scope of course :) >> > Some time ago it was discussed here to use a laser from an old DVD burner. > I joked you could scan using a mirror assembly, and when you get a reflection > increase power and burn the bug. > Joked the experiment would leave all sorts of burning spots on the wall paper. > Then a while ago I read somebody at NASA actually did it, > and they can, from the reflection frequency, even determine what sort of bug > is in the beam, and *only* shoot mosquitos that way... > No it was not April 1, but hey, I did think of it first :-) > > NASA reads this group?I was at one of those outdoor laser light shows (Stone Mountain I think)a long time ago. I could swear I could hear bugs getting sizzled near the laser equipment. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"� "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4eak@4ax.com>, D from BC >><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >> >>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser >>> spot. >>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) >>> and aim it near the bug. >>> It flies! >>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do >>> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P >>> >>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. >>> I probably fried every light receptor. >>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost track >>> of it. >>> It did not reland on the ceiling. >>> >>> I need more power! :P >>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >>> With sniper scope of course :) >>> >>You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) handheld >>spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I got one, and one >>evening I shined it up near the tops of the trees and zeroed in on a >>flying moth. After a second or two it went into a tailspin and >>eventually flew into the ground. I did another, and another, and >>another until I was finally convinced that the bright light was indeed >>corrupting their nav systems. And this was just a big flashlight from >>50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a laser would do the same -- if you >>could hold it right on the bug for a bit. > >For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night.Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even bees... quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:43:10 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:>A few beers and you'll forget you are sitting outside on your deck. >That's not a fly, its a 747.We have bats... nice creatures... no gnats ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
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On Nov 30, 5:39=A0pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My- Web-Site.com> wrote:> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy <no...@nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4...@4ax.com>, D from BC > >><myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote: > > >>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... > >>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser > >>> spot. > >>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool=)> >>> and aim it near the bug. > >>> It flies! > >>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to d=o> >>> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P > > >>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. > >>> I probably fried every light receptor. > >>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost trac=k> >>> of it. > >>> It did not reland on the ceiling. > > >>> I need more power! :P > >>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? > >>> With sniper scope of course :) > > >>You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) handheld > >>spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I got one, and one > >>evening I shined it up near the tops of the trees and zeroed in on a > >>flying moth. After a second or two it went into a tailspin and > >>eventually flew into the ground. I did another, and another, and > >>another until I was finally convinced that the bright light was indeed > >>corrupting their nav systems. And this was just a big flashlight from > >>50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a laser would do the same -- if you > >>could hold it right on the bug for a bit. > > >For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. =A0Attack them at night. > > Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even bees... > quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-)Hair spray and a lighter is better; you don't have to run! Mark L. Fergerson
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:39:27 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4eak@4ax.com>, D from BC >>><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >>>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser >>>> spot. >>>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) >>>> and aim it near the bug. >>>> It flies! >>>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do >>>> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P >>>> >>>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. >>>> I probably fried every light receptor. >>>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost track >>>> of it. >>>> It did not reland on the ceiling. >>>> >>>> I need more power! :P >>>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >>>> With sniper scope of course :) >>>> >>>You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) handheld >>>spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I got one, and one >>>evening I shined it up near the tops of the trees and zeroed in on a >>>flying moth. After a second or two it went into a tailspin and >>>eventually flew into the ground. I did another, and another, and >>>another until I was finally convinced that the bright light was indeed >>>corrupting their nav systems. And this was just a big flashlight from >>>50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a laser would do the same -- if you >>>could hold it right on the bug for a bit. >> >>For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night. > >Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even bees... >quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-)That works for one bugger at a time. It's not a good idea to attack a nest with it. The instant death spray with a 20' range is a far better idea.
