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Started by D from BC November 30, 2009
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:02:04 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:39:27 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>> >>>>In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4eak@4ax.com>, D from BC >>>><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >>>>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser >>>>> spot. >>>>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) >>>>> and aim it near the bug. >>>>> It flies! >>>>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do >>>>> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P >>>>> >>>>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. >>>>> I probably fried every light receptor. >>>>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost track >>>>> of it. >>>>> It did not reland on the ceiling. >>>>> >>>>> I need more power! :P >>>>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >>>>> With sniper scope of course :) >>>>> >>>>You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) handheld >>>>spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I got one, and one >>>>evening I shined it up near the tops of the trees and zeroed in on a >>>>flying moth. After a second or two it went into a tailspin and >>>>eventually flew into the ground. I did another, and another, and >>>>another until I was finally convinced that the bright light was indeed >>>>corrupting their nav systems. And this was just a big flashlight from >>>>50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a laser would do the same -- if you >>>>could hold it right on the bug for a bit. >>> >>>For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night. >> >>Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even bees... >>quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-) > >That works for one bugger at a time. It's not a good idea to attack a >nest with it. The instant death spray with a 20' range is a far >better idea.
I cut a hole in the patio ceiling to install a speaker... immediately inhabited by bee "scouts". Called my exterminator service. He came, advised closing all doors, including doggy door, 'cause, "I'm going to make 'em really mad" ;-) They were completely gone in a few hours. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
nuny@bid.nes wrote:
> On Nov 30, 5:39 pm, Jim Thompson > <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My- > Web-Site.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw >> <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> >> wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy >>> <no...@nowhere.com> >>> wrote: >> >>>> In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4...@4ax.com>, D >>>> from BC >>>> <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote: >> >>>>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >>>>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing >>>>> after a >>>>> laser spot. >>>>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance >>>>> measurement >>>>> tool) and aim it near the bug. >>>>> It flies! >>>>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I >>>>> decided >>>>> to do a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! >>>>> muhahahhaha.... :P >> >>>>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 >>>>> seconds. >>>>> I probably fried every light receptor. >>>>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I >>>>> lost >>>>> track of it. >>>>> It did not reland on the ceiling. >> >>>>> I need more power! :P >>>>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >>>>> With sniper scope of course :) >> >>>> You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) >>>> handheld spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I >>>> got >>>> one, and one evening I shined it up near the tops of the >>>> trees and >>>> zeroed in on a flying moth. After a second or two it went >>>> into a >>>> tailspin and eventually flew into the ground. I did another, >>>> and >>>> another, and another until I was finally convinced that the >>>> bright >>>> light was indeed corrupting their nav systems. And this was >>>> just a >>>> big flashlight from 50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a >>>> laser >>>> would do the same -- if you could hold it right on the bug >>>> for a >>>> bit. >> >>> For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night. >> >> Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even >> bees... >> quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-) > > Hair spray and a lighter is better; you don't have to run! > >
Here's a novel way to kill a roach with a laser: One night last year, I needed a hard copy of a small schematic and hit the print button. Out came the schematic plus six roach legs and two antennae, all "printed" on the paper. I had visions of having to take my laser printer apart to clean off the remains of the bug squashed and spread over several rollers, possibly also necessitating replacement of the toner because of a damaged drum. When I took out the toner cartridge, I saw the body of the roach resting against the paper feed roller. Fortunately, the body had been too big to go in. I took it out with a pair of tweezers and placed it on the floor. I was amazed to see it still wriggling and then walking on the stumps, albeit very slowly. I enjoy killing roaches but making them suffer needlessly is another thing. I quickly squashed it. Here's a picture: http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f223/keimah/?action=view&current=Printed_Cockroach.jpg
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:29:30 +0530, "pimpom" <pimpom@invalid.com>
wrote:

>nuny@bid.nes wrote: >> On Nov 30, 5:39 pm, Jim Thompson >> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My- >> Web-Site.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw >>> <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> >>> wrote: >>>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy >>>> <no...@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4...@4ax.com>, D >>>>> from BC >>>>> <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >>>>>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing >>>>>> after a >>>>>> laser spot. >>>>>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance >>>>>> measurement >>>>>> tool) and aim it near the bug. >>>>>> It flies! >>>>>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I >>>>>> decided >>>>>> to do a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! >>>>>> muhahahhaha.... :P >>> >>>>>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 >>>>>> seconds. >>>>>> I probably fried every light receptor. >>>>>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I >>>>>> lost >>>>>> track of it. >>>>>> It did not reland on the ceiling. >>> >>>>>> I need more power! :P >>>>>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >>>>>> With sniper scope of course :) >>> >>>>> You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) >>>>> handheld spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I >>>>> got >>>>> one, and one evening I shined it up near the tops of the >>>>> trees and >>>>> zeroed in on a flying moth. After a second or two it went >>>>> into a >>>>> tailspin and eventually flew into the ground. I did another, >>>>> and >>>>> another, and another until I was finally convinced that the >>>>> bright >>>>> light was indeed corrupting their nav systems. And this was >>>>> just a >>>>> big flashlight from 50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a >>>>> laser >>>>> would do the same -- if you could hold it right on the bug >>>>> for a >>>>> bit. >>> >>>> For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night. >>> >>> Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even >>> bees... >>> quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-) >> >> Hair spray and a lighter is better; you don't have to run! >> >> >Here's a novel way to kill a roach with a laser: >One night last year, I needed a hard copy of a small schematic >and hit the print button. Out came the schematic plus six roach >legs and two antennae, all "printed" on the paper. I had visions >of having to take my laser printer apart to clean off the remains >of the bug squashed and spread over several rollers, possibly >also necessitating replacement of the toner because of a damaged >drum. > >When I took out the toner cartridge, I saw the body of the roach >resting against the paper feed roller. Fortunately, the body had >been too big to go in. I took it out with a pair of tweezers and >placed it on the floor. I was amazed to see it still wriggling >and then walking on the stumps, albeit very slowly. I enjoy >killing roaches but making them suffer needlessly is another >thing. I quickly squashed it. Here's a picture: >http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f223/keimah/?action=view&current=Printed_Cockroach.jpg >
ewwww.. imo..roaches seem to be non-existant in BC. But we have giant slugs.. http://canadacalling.ca/other/juandefuca/slug.jpg
In article <i2u8h590l4qmk0ef4c3ie3f8mvhn0oi5s0@4ax.com>, krw
<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:39:27 -0700, Jim Thompson > <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > > >On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > > > >>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> > >>>In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4eak@4ax.com>, D from BC > >>><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... > >>>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser > >>>> spot. > >>>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) > >>>> and aim it near the bug. > >>>> It flies! > >>>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do > >>>> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P > >>>> > >>>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. > >>>> I probably fried every light receptor. > >>>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost track > >>>> of it. > >>>> It did not reland on the ceiling. > >>>> > >>>> I need more power! :P > >>>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? > >>>> With sniper scope of course :) > >>>> > >>>You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) handheld > >>>spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I got one, and one > >>>evening I shined it up near the tops of the trees and zeroed in on a > >>>flying moth. After a second or two it went into a tailspin and > >>>eventually flew into the ground. I did another, and another, and > >>>another until I was finally convinced that the bright light was indeed > >>>corrupting their nav systems. And this was just a big flashlight from > >>>50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a laser would do the same -- if you > >>>could hold it right on the bug for a bit. > >> > >>For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night. > > > >Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even bees... > >quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-) > > That works for one bugger at a time. It's not a good idea to attack a > nest with it. The instant death spray with a 20' range is a far > better idea.
Even better - gasoline. Throw a half glass of gasoline on a wasp's nest and they all drop straight to the ground. They don't even flap their wings once.
"Wingsy" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
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> Even better - gasoline. Throw a half glass of gasoline on a wasp's nest > and they all drop straight to the ground. They don't even flap their > wings once.
Is that before or after you apply the lighted match?
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> writes:

> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:02:04 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:39:27 -0700, Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:25 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:53:43 -0500, Wingsy <noone@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>In article <l837h5d1nauevf6bc1cc6kvoe6vt7d4eak@4ax.com>, D from BC >>>>><myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I saw a bug on my ceiling... >>>>>> Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser >>>>>> spot. >>>>>> So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) >>>>>> and aim it near the bug. >>>>>> It flies! >>>>>> I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do >>>>>> a less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P >>>>>> >>>>>> I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. >>>>>> I probably fried every light receptor. >>>>>> The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in the air and I lost track >>>>>> of it. >>>>>> It did not reland on the ceiling. >>>>>> >>>>>> I need more power! :P >>>>>> 1W laser fly zapper project??? >>>>>> With sniper scope of course :) >>>>>> >>>>>You know those 10 million candlepower (or so they advertise) handheld >>>>>spotlights you may have seen at CosCo or online? I got one, and one >>>>>evening I shined it up near the tops of the trees and zeroed in on a >>>>>flying moth. After a second or two it went into a tailspin and >>>>>eventually flew into the ground. I did another, and another, and >>>>>another until I was finally convinced that the bright light was indeed >>>>>corrupting their nav systems. And this was just a big flashlight from >>>>>50 feet away, so I'd imagine that a laser would do the same -- if you >>>>>could hold it right on the bug for a bit.
On of the examples in Phil Hobbs' optics book was for a fictional (I assume) laser bug zapper. IIRC it included a fully worked out flying spot laser scanner to locate the bug.
>>>>For wasps and hornets, do the opposite. Attack them at night. >>> >>>Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even bees... >>>quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-) >> >>That works for one bugger at a time. It's not a good idea to attack a >>nest with it. The instant death spray with a 20' range is a far >>better idea. > > I cut a hole in the patio ceiling to install a speaker... immediately > inhabited by bee "scouts". > > Called my exterminator service. He came, advised closing all doors, > including doggy door, 'cause, "I'm going to make 'em really mad" ;-) > > They were completely gone in a few hours.
A few years ago some local wasps made the mistake of setting up shop in the external vent for our cooker extractor fan. Ready made ducting to focus and contain the bug spray, perfect! -- John Devereux
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:45:09 -0800, D from BC wrote:

> I saw a bug on my ceiling... > Which reminded me of a utube video of a spider chasing after a laser spot. > So I get the laser pointer(actually a laser distance measurement tool) and > aim it near the bug. > It flies! > I don't like flies and when it relanded on the ceiling I decided to do a > less friendly test.. Laser blinding! muhahahhaha.... :P > > I rested the laser spot all over the fly. A good 30 seconds. I probably > fried every light receptor. The fly took off did a few chaotic circles in > the air and I lost track of it. > It did not reland on the ceiling. > > I need more power! :P > 1W laser fly zapper project??? > With sniper scope of course :)
Is "D from BC" just a pseudonym for Skybuck? Thanks, Rich
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:02:04 -0600, krw wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:39:27 -0700, Jim Thompson >> >>Hair spray is handy for just about any flying insect... even bees... >>quick shot and run... bee flies a few feet and seizes up ;-) > > That works for one bugger at a time. It's not a good idea to attack a > nest with it. The instant death spray with a 20' range is a far better > idea.
But bees are good guys! Thanks, Rich
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message 
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>A few beers and you'll forget you are sitting outside on your deck. > That's not a fly, its a 747. > > -- > Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Speed is n0 subsittute fo accurancy.
... and there are lots of newspaper reports of members of the public being prosecuted, even imprisoned, for shining laser pointers at planes and helicopters. An example is http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/Police-helicopter-pilot-was-blinded-by-laser-pen-newsinkent24688.aspx?news=local but the statement 'For the first time sky cops are using a device which pinpoints the source of the beam and can photograph the operator' looks a bit odd - perhaps it can only photograph the operator when he/she switches the laser off and, obligingly, stands in the same position for a while. I wonder if they're prosecuting people who use those torches with "the power of a million candles" when they point them up to see what's making the deafening noise above their house. Hmmm. Chris
D from BC wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:28:06 -0600, AZ Nomad > <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote: > >> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:15:01 -0800, D from BC <myrealaddress@comic.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:55:38 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>> <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Some time ago it was discussed here to use a laser from an old DVD burner. >>>> I joked you could scan using a mirror assembly, and when you get a reflection >>>> increase power and burn the bug. >>>> Joked the experiment would leave all sorts of burning spots on the wall paper. >>>> Then a while ago I read somebody at NASA actually did it, >>>> and they can, from the reflection frequency, even determine what sort of bug >>>> is in the beam, and *only* shoot mosquitos that way... >>>> No it was not April 1, but hey, I did think of it first :-) >>>> >>>> NASA reads this group? >>> Neato.. >>> I wonder if it'll become a pest control method.. >>> For example.. >>> A laser unit is placed on the floor, turned on and then it starts >>> scanning for crawling bugs ...especially roaches. >>> The scan height is low for low odds of blinding someone. >>> When a roach has been detected, a deadly pulse is triggered. >>> If there's no misses then it might be possible there will be no damage >>> to the baseboards (burnt spots) and low risk of setting the house on >>> fire. :P >> The amount of power to blind a bug should be orders of magnatude less >> than that which would cause baseboard burn spots. > > I think a laser bug burner would be more effective pest control than > bug blinder. > Roaches have very good odor receptors and iirc that is the primary way > roaches find food. > iirc.. roaches don't have much use for eyes. > > I vote for bug burner instead of bug blinder. >
Actually, it may be a very good solution for certain types of crop protection. Cheaper than pesticides? -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show