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Started by Don Y December 15, 2023
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On 12/15/2023 6:24 PM, Don Y wrote:
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> > [I recall, when getting forklift certified, asking the instructor > what to do in the event of a fire (cuz you are sitting ON the engine > and the fuel source is immediately behind your back).&nbsp; I expected > some PRACTICAL sort of advice -- like how to put it out, etc. > > He ended up saying, "Get as far away as possible.&nbsp; Call the fire > department.&nbsp; AND TELL THEM YOU HAVE A PROPANE FORKLIFT FIRE.&nbsp; When > they arrive, they will likely park A BLOCK AWAY!" > > I guess propane explosions are spectacular! ?]
The problem is that propane gas is heavier than air, so it doesn't readily dissipate like natural gas would.
> > So, anyone know if this is a universal prohibition, a local > requirement or just "store policy"? >
Dunno. Ed
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On 12/15/23 18:24, Don Y wrote:
> I was at the hardware store, today.&nbsp; A guy walked in with a > propane tank from a BBQ grill.&nbsp; The staff went ballistic! > &nbsp;&nbsp; "You have to take that around the back!" > &nbsp;&nbsp; "I already did.&nbsp; No one answered the door." > &nbsp;&nbsp; "You can't carry it through the store.&nbsp; It's *illegal*..." > which, immediately got me wondering if that's a truth > or just an exaggerated belief (illegal == not tolerated by store > policy) > > Of course, such tanks (empty and full-ready-for-resale) are > always stored outside due to convenience and safety.&nbsp; So, it > *may* be true that local ordinances prevent them from being *in* > the store, regardless of duration.
<snip> More info.... Virginian Fire code: 6109.15 LP-Gas Cylinder Exchange for Resale In addition to other applicable requirements of this chapter, facilities operating LP-gas cylinder exchange stations that are accessible to the public shall comply with the following requirements. Cylinders shall be secured in a lockable, ventilated metal cabinet or other approved enclosure. Cylinders shall be accessible only by authorized personnel or by use of an automated exchange system in accordance with Section 6109.15.1. A sign shall be posted on the entry door of the business operating the cylinder exchange stating "DO NOT BRING LP-GAS CYLINDERS INTO THE BUILDING" or similar approved wording. An emergency contact information sign shall be posted within 10 feet (3048 mm) of the cylinder storage cabinet. The content, lettering, size, color and location of the required sign shall be as required by the fire code official.