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OT: (consumer) propane tanks
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The arsehole "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> persisting in being an Off-topic troll... -- "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:> Path: not-for-mail > From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: Re: OT: (consumer) propane tanks > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 20:18:30 +0100 > Lines: 85 > Message-ID: <65u35kxmjn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> > References: <ulin8d$23inh$1@dont-email.me> <rm9v4kxk33.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> > <o1bv4k-m4sv.ln1@coop.radagast.org> <b5k05kxpkd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> > <ull4rl$2icrk$3@dont-email.me> <f5725kxcme.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> > <ulng9s$32moi$1@dont-email.me> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Trace: individual.net 8U5wD2GIBiyHLTgodpvUggieGjScRXEuKldZ0+mqrmq6GNie9r > X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail > Cancel-Lock: sha1:RxOJo9BOCHdU43YnKwZDXXDvtHA= sha256:cJoMLof6KdT065EKUQW42MaXo4cII4JI1U9pvtLGlz8= > User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird > Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA > In-Reply-To: <ulng9s$32moi$1@dont-email.me> > X-Received-Bytes: 4207
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On 12/17/2023 12:18 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:>> I used to have a home-brewed "spark indicator" in the dash on one of >> my cars on the premis that failure to start is either fuel or ignition... :> > > What was that? :-?Just a wire wrapped around a plug wire (coil wire is a better choice) and fed to a neon. You aren't looking for anything more than "do I have spark" -- back in the days wit distributors, points, condenser, etc.>>> Then we replace the empty bottle at a leisure. >> >> I suspect folks who use "propane grills" (outdoor cooking) likely only >> have a single tank (they are large and seldom used... why keep *two*?) > > Quite possibly.It's relatively easy to find a source of refill/replacement. Once out of my subdivision, it's 1/3 mi to one source, a 5/4 mi the other way to another source, 2 mi the first direction to yet another, then again at 3 mi, etc. As long as you aren't grilling at midnight, you can likely find a refill/replacement. But, it's not *convenient*. OTOH, it's not convenient to store an ExTRA 25lb propane tank just to cover for the case where you failed to check your supply BEFORE grilling.>> Growing up, we had oil-fired domestic hot water. The supply was quite limited. >> And, subject to "dropouts" if someone flushed a toilet, started a load of >> laundry, etc. It was common sense to ANNOUNCE your desire to take a shower >> before putting yourself at the mercy of others' "activities". > > Oh, yes! > > Some modern water flash heaters have automatic regulation. They increase or > decrease the gas output automatically to try keep the water temperature constant.No substitute for *mass*, in that case.> I don't have that in this place. I did a mistake when I purchased the last one > when replacing the previous (broken) one. It is not only the problem of someone > using the water at the same time, but that the temp varies a lot if you try to > use less water.I'd prefer smaller heaters at point of use (to minimize transport delay). But, also like the fact that the *single* water heater can be out of the living space (whereas all points of use are *in* that space). We tend not to fret our DOMESTIC energy usage (which is likely far above most folks). We don't consume as much commuting (5000 *shared* miles on the road) or travel (aside from offsites, we don't do any long distance traveling -- too tedious nowadays!) so rationalize our OTHER excesses...>> Going off to school, we had a 5,000G hot water tank for the dorm. ENDLESS >> supplies of hot water! > > :-)Yes. Shower sex can be really distressing if you run out of hot/warm water in the act! :-/
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