On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote:> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size?Why on earth didn't you get the right part? Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? https://haynes.com/en-gb/> 2012: 6.5" total length > 2014: 5.5" total length > > Should I change to the newer brake bracket?Probably a very bad idea. There may be a good reason why the old pads are 16% bigger to obtain the regulation stopping distance. Isn't your car held together with duct tape and sealing wax already? -- Martin Brown
Brake pad size
Started by ●October 23, 2023
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote:> On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > https://haynes.com/en-gb/We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you need. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote:> On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > need.Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size?
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:58:17 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > > need. > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size?No, most of us buy the part that's for our car model and year. But... sometimes that's not enough. I had a 1997 T100 and had a shop replace the water pump. I asked for a quote before they tore it apart. I couldn't get them to respond to phone calls, so after a couple of days I drove over and the front of the engine was apart. I was pissed off thinking the guy was going to jack me around on the price. The guy kept trying to say he couldn't identify the right part without taking it out, which I didn't believe. Later, the alternator diodes went bad and I could not identify the right part. I don't recall the details, but I ended up buying a used alternator. Seems Toyota did a revamp of many parts of the car in the middle of the model year. The water pump and alternator were both changed at that point. So, there are times when you need the serial number, or even the old part to identify the replacement part. -- Rick C. - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On 24/10/2023 14:58, Eddy Lee wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: >> On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: >>> On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: >>>> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they >>>> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? >>> >>> Why on earth didn't you get the right part? >>> Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? >>> >>> https://haynes.com/en/ >> We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. >> Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you >> need. > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year.It does in the UK you put your car details in and it offers compatible with make and model brake pads or whatever other spare part you want. Most UK sites these days can do a registration lookup and know for certain what the vehicle actually is down to its date of manufacture.> Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size?Not unless the unit is dismantled and in front of me. Even when I did all my own servicing as an impecunious student I only knew such things for the short time it took to find out which part was needed to buying a new one! Haynes manuals are pretty good on any minor model variations with year that might otherwise catch you out. The exact part number was generally more useful than its dimensions!!! -- Martin Brown
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
tirsdag den 24. oktober 2023 kl. 10.24.39 UTC+2 skrev Martin Brown:> On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > https://haynes.com/en-gb/ > > 2012: 6.5" total length > > 2014: 5.5" total length > > > > Should I change to the newer brake bracket? > Probably a very bad idea. There may be a good reason why the old pads > are 16% bigger to obtain the regulation stopping distance. > > Isn't your car held together with duct tape and sealing wax already?afaict that's only the good parts of it
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:52:02 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:> On 24/10/2023 14:58, Eddy Lee wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > >>> On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > >>>> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > >>>> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > >>> > >>> Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > >>> Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > >>> > >>> https://haynes.com/en/ > >> We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > >> Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > >> need. > > > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > It does in the UK you put your car details in and it offers compatible > with make and model brake pads or whatever other spare part you want. > Most UK sites these days can do a registration lookup and know for > certain what the vehicle actually is down to its date of manufacture. > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > Not unless the unit is dismantled and in front of me. > > Even when I did all my own servicing as an impecunious student I only > knew such things for the short time it took to find out which part was > needed to buying a new one! Haynes manuals are pretty good on any minor > model variations with year that might otherwise catch you out. > > The exact part number was generally more useful than its dimensions!!!https://haynes.com/en-us/search?query=brake%20pad 0 result returned.
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:10:40 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:58:17 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > > > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > > > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > > > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > > > need. > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > No, most of us buy the part that's for our car model and year. But... sometimes that's not enough. I had a 1997 T100 and had a shop replace the water pump. I asked for a quote before they tore it apart. I couldn't get them to respond to phone calls, so after a couple of days I drove over and the front of the engine was apart. I was pissed off thinking the guy was going to jack me around on the price. The guy kept trying to say he couldn't identify the right part without taking it out, which I didn't believe. > > Later, the alternator diodes went bad and I could not identify the right part. I don't recall the details, but I ended up buying a used alternator. Seems Toyota did a revamp of many parts of the car in the middle of the model year. The water pump and alternator were both changed at that point. > > So, there are times when you need the serial number, or even the old part to identify the replacement part.There is no serial number for simple part like brake pad. Haven't done repair like this for a long time, but hate being rip-off. I took my car to the shop and ask him to replace my bent control-arm. He wants $200 to diagnose the problem. I said what diagnose, you can just look at it.
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:10:40 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:58:17 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > > > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > > > > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > > > > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > > > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > > > > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > > > > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > > > > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > > > > need. > > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > > > > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > > No, most of us buy the part that's for our car model and year. But... sometimes that's not enough. I had a 1997 T100 and had a shop replace the water pump. I asked for a quote before they tore it apart. I couldn't get them to respond to phone calls, so after a couple of days I drove over and the front of the engine was apart. I was pissed off thinking the guy was going to jack me around on the price. The guy kept trying to say he couldn't identify the right part without taking it out, which I didn't believe. > > > > Later, the alternator diodes went bad and I could not identify the right part. I don't recall the details, but I ended up buying a used alternator. Seems Toyota did a revamp of many parts of the car in the middle of the model year. The water pump and alternator were both changed at that point. > > > > So, there are times when you need the serial number, or even the old part to identify the replacement part. > There is no serial number for simple part like brake pad. Haven't done repair like this for a long time, but hate being rip-off. I took my car to the shop and ask him to replace my bent control-arm. He wants $200 to diagnose the problem. I said what diagnose, you can just look at it.Sometimes you can be seriously dense. I'm talking about the serial number of the CAR!!! The automaker tracks all changes to the parts list by serial number. This info is how the parts catalogs are arranged. Did you not read anything that I wrote about this? -- Rick C. + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 8:33:51 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:10:40 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:58:17 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > > > > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > > > > > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > > > > > > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > > > > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > > > > > > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > > > > > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > > > > > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > > > > > need. > > > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > > > > > > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > > > No, most of us buy the part that's for our car model and year. But... sometimes that's not enough. I had a 1997 T100 and had a shop replace the water pump. I asked for a quote before they tore it apart. I couldn't get them to respond to phone calls, so after a couple of days I drove over and the front of the engine was apart. I was pissed off thinking the guy was going to jack me around on the price. The guy kept trying to say he couldn't identify the right part without taking it out, which I didn't believe. > > > > > > Later, the alternator diodes went bad and I could not identify the right part. I don't recall the details, but I ended up buying a used alternator. Seems Toyota did a revamp of many parts of the car in the middle of the model year. The water pump and alternator were both changed at that point. > > > > > > So, there are times when you need the serial number, or even the old part to identify the replacement part. > > There is no serial number for simple part like brake pad. Haven't done repair like this for a long time, but hate being rip-off. I took my car to the shop and ask him to replace my bent control-arm. He wants $200 to diagnose the problem. I said what diagnose, you can just look at it. > Sometimes you can be seriously dense. I'm talking about the serial number of the CAR!!! The automaker tracks all changes to the parts list by serial number. This info is how the parts catalogs are arranged. Did you not read anything that I wrote about this?You mean VIN? I got confused by SN. OK, show me a link to check.
