On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:34:34 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:37:30 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 8:33:51 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:10:40 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:58:17 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > > On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > > > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > > > > > > > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > > > > > > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > > > > > > > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > > > > > > > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > > > > > > > need. > > > > > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > > > > > No, most of us buy the part that's for our car model and year. But... sometimes that's not enough. I had a 1997 T100 and had a shop replace the water pump. I asked for a quote before they tore it apart. I couldn't get them to respond to phone calls, so after a couple of days I drove over and the front of the engine was apart. I was pissed off thinking the guy was going to jack me around on the price. The guy kept trying to say he couldn't identify the right part without taking it out, which I didn't believe. > > > > > > > > > > Later, the alternator diodes went bad and I could not identify the right part. I don't recall the details, but I ended up buying a used alternator. Seems Toyota did a revamp of many parts of the car in the middle of the model year. The water pump and alternator were both changed at that point. > > > > > > > > > > So, there are times when you need the serial number, or even the old part to identify the replacement part. > > > > There is no serial number for simple part like brake pad. Haven't done repair like this for a long time, but hate being rip-off. I took my car to the shop and ask him to replace my bent control-arm. He wants $200 to diagnose the problem. I said what diagnose, you can just look at it. > > > Sometimes you can be seriously dense. I'm talking about the serial number of the CAR!!! The automaker tracks all changes to the parts list by serial number. This info is how the parts catalogs are arranged. Did you not read anything that I wrote about this? > > You mean VIN? I got confused by SN. OK, show me a link to check. > To check what? If you want the right part, you give the VIN to the guy at the parts counter. Yeah, it's that simple. I every Internet parts supplier I've dealt with also lets you enter the VIN.Autozone has $247 performance rotor and pad kit. But I want $50 under-performance pads. 6.5" pads is just overkill for regen-braking.
Brake pad size
Started by ●October 23, 2023
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:21:04 PM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:34:34 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:37:30 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 8:33:51 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:10:40 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:58:17 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > > > > > > > > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > > > > > > > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > > > > > > > > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > > > > > > > > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > > > > > > > > need. > > > > > > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > > > > > > No, most of us buy the part that's for our car model and year. But... sometimes that's not enough. I had a 1997 T100 and had a shop replace the water pump. I asked for a quote before they tore it apart. I couldn't get them to respond to phone calls, so after a couple of days I drove over and the front of the engine was apart. I was pissed off thinking the guy was going to jack me around on the price. The guy kept trying to say he couldn't identify the right part without taking it out, which I didn't believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Later, the alternator diodes went bad and I could not identify the right part. I don't recall the details, but I ended up buying a used alternator. Seems Toyota did a revamp of many parts of the car in the middle of the model year. The water pump and alternator were both changed at that point. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, there are times when you need the serial number, or even the old part to identify the replacement part. > > > > > There is no serial number for simple part like brake pad. Haven't done repair like this for a long time, but hate being rip-off. I took my car to the shop and ask him to replace my bent control-arm. He wants $200 to diagnose the problem. I said what diagnose, you can just look at it. > > > > Sometimes you can be seriously dense. I'm talking about the serial number of the CAR!!! The automaker tracks all changes to the parts list by serial number. This info is how the parts catalogs are arranged. Did you not read anything that I wrote about this? > > > You mean VIN? I got confused by SN. OK, show me a link to check. > > To check what? If you want the right part, you give the VIN to the guy at the parts counter. Yeah, it's that simple. I every Internet parts supplier I've dealt with also lets you enter the VIN. > Autozone has $247 performance rotor and pad kit. But I want $50 under-performance pads. 6.5" pads is just overkill for regen-braking.I think you would be better served by posting this question/issue in the Nissan Leaf forum(s). For the two vehicle forums that I participate in, there are posts/replies for ASE-certified mechanics who are usually well-informed. Some of the shade tree mechanics can also offer good advice based on their experience. Also, if you are in doubt about a replacement part call a few dealer parts desks and discuss the issue with them. They usually are knowledgeable albeit sometimes lazy to fully answer your question. They should have details about superseded parts, etc. After all, it should be in their parts data base, assuming they are kept updated in a timely manner.
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-7, three_jeeps wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:21:04 PM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:34:34 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:37:30 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 8:33:51 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:10:40 AM UTC-7, Ricky wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:58:17 AM UTC-4, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > > > > > > > > > >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > > > > > > > > > > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://haynes.com/en/ > > > > > > > > > We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > > > > > > > > > Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > > > > > > > > > need. > > > > > > > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > > > > > > > No, most of us buy the part that's for our car model and year. But... sometimes that's not enough. I had a 1997 T100 and had a shop replace the water pump. I asked for a quote before they tore it apart. I couldn't get them to respond to phone calls, so after a couple of days I drove over and the front of the engine was apart. I was pissed off thinking the guy was going to jack me around on the price. The guy kept trying to say he couldn't identify the right part without taking it out, which I didn't believe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Later, the alternator diodes went bad and I could not identify the right part. I don't recall the details, but I ended up buying a used alternator. Seems Toyota did a revamp of many parts of the car in the middle of the model year. The water pump and alternator were both changed at that point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, there are times when you need the serial number, or even the old part to identify the replacement part. > > > > > > There is no serial number for simple part like brake pad. Haven't done repair like this for a long time, but hate being rip-off. I took my car to the shop and ask him to replace my bent control-arm. He wants $200 to diagnose the problem. I said what diagnose, you can just look at it. > > > > > Sometimes you can be seriously dense. I'm talking about the serial number of the CAR!!! The automaker tracks all changes to the parts list by serial number. This info is how the parts catalogs are arranged. Did you not read anything that I wrote about this? > > > > You mean VIN? I got confused by SN. OK, show me a link to check. > > > To check what? If you want the right part, you give the VIN to the guy at the parts counter. Yeah, it's that simple. I every Internet parts supplier I've dealt with also lets you enter the VIN. > > Autozone has $247 performance rotor and pad kit. But I want $50 under-performance pads. 6.5" pads is just overkill for regen-braking. > I think you would be better served by posting this question/issue in the Nissan Leaf forum(s). For the two vehicle forums that I participate in, there are posts/replies for ASE-certified mechanics who are usually well-informed. Some of the shade tree mechanics can also offer good advice based on their experience. > > Also, if you are in doubt about a replacement part call a few dealer parts desks and discuss the issue with them. They usually are knowledgeable albeit sometimes lazy to fully answer your question. They should have details about superseded parts, etc. After all, it should be in their parts data base, assuming they are kept updated in a timely manner.I already know that I need 6.5" pads. What I want to know is what other cars are using 6.5". Searching for 2012 Leaf usually come up empty. 2014 has more hits. Two on-line sellers won't even response to my inquiry.
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:00:52 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:> On 10/24/23 18:44, Martin Brown wrote: > > On 24/10/2023 17:00, Eddy Lee wrote: > >> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:24:39 AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote: > >>> O > >>> Isn't your car held together with duct tape and sealing wax already? > >> > >> That's my plan B. The re-gen motor is doing most of the work. > >> Perhaps I can super-glue some ceramic to the old pad. > > > > I wish I thought you were joking... > > > Please folks! He's just tickling us with foppery. Ignore > him already! Killfile him! > > Surely there are more interesting things to write about? >Half joking of course. But if I don't have any other choice, I would have to do it. The seller I got from won't answer my inquiry, 3 days after the return deadline. I'll order from another one (also won't answer my inquiry), but I should be able to check and return it in time. If not, just cut the ceramic from the new pad, superglue and brass screw it to the old pad. When it kills the rotor, then get the rotor and pad kit from autozone. 1/3 joking of course.
Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
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Reply by ●October 24, 20232023-10-24
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Reply by ●October 25, 20232023-10-25
On 2023-10-24, Eddy Lee <eddy711lee@gmail.com> wrote:> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: >> On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: >> > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: >> >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they >> >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? >> > >> > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? >> > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? >> > >> > https://haynes.com/en/ >> We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. >> Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you >> need. > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size?It used to be you looked up your model-year in a paper parts catalog, but it's mostly online now. if that doesn't work if you have alternative transport park and disassemble your car and use the alternative to visit the supplier with the old part in hand.. -- Jasen. 🇺🇦 Слава Україні
Reply by ●October 25, 20232023-10-25
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:34:25 -0700 (PDT), Eddy Lee <eddy711lee@gmail.com> wrote:>On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:00:52?AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >> On 10/24/23 18:44, Martin Brown wrote: >> > On 24/10/2023 17:00, Eddy Lee wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:24:39?AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote: >> >>> O >> >>> Isn't your car held together with duct tape and sealing wax already? >> >> >> >> That's my plan B. The re-gen motor is doing most of the work. >> >> Perhaps I can super-glue some ceramic to the old pad. >> > >> > I wish I thought you were joking... >> > >> Please folks! He's just tickling us with foppery. Ignore >> him already! Killfile him! >> >> Surely there are more interesting things to write about? >> > >Half joking of course. But if I don't have any other choice, I would have to do it. > >The seller I got from won't answer my inquiry, 3 days after the return deadline. I'll order from another one (also won't answer my inquiry), but I should be able to check and return it in time. > >If not, just cut the ceramic from the new pad, superglue and brass screw it to the old pad. When it kills the rotor, then get the rotor and pad kit from autozone. 1/3 joking of course.Why not design electronics and pay the dealer to fix your car?
Reply by ●October 25, 20232023-10-25
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 3:43:30 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:> On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:34:25 -0700 (PDT), Eddy Lee > <eddy7...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:00:52?AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote: > >> On 10/24/23 18:44, Martin Brown wrote: > >> > On 24/10/2023 17:00, Eddy Lee wrote: > >> >> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:24:39?AM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote: > >> >>> O > >> >>> Isn't your car held together with duct tape and sealing wax already? > >> >> > >> >> That's my plan B. The re-gen motor is doing most of the work. > >> >> Perhaps I can super-glue some ceramic to the old pad. > >> > > >> > I wish I thought you were joking... > >> > > >> Please folks! He's just tickling us with foppery. Ignore > >> him already! Killfile him! > >> > >> Surely there are more interesting things to write about? > >> > > > >Half joking of course. But if I don't have any other choice, I would have to do it. > > > >The seller I got from won't answer my inquiry, 3 days after the return deadline. I'll order from another one (also won't answer my inquiry), but I should be able to check and return it in time. > > > >If not, just cut the ceramic from the new pad, superglue and brass screw it to the old pad. When it kills the rotor, then get the rotor and pad kit from autozone. 1/3 joking of course. > Why not design electronics and pay the dealer to fix your car?Hate to get rip off by mechanics. $200 just to look at bent control arm. Already done with the difficult part. Replacing pad is easy, if I get the right part.
Reply by ●October 25, 20232023-10-25
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 9:30:48 PM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote:> On 2023-10-24, Eddy Lee <eddy7...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 2:30:01 AM UTC-7, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> On 2023-10-24, Martin Brown wrote: > >> > On 23/10/2023 15:56, Eddy Lee wrote: > >> >> I got new 2014 pads that won't fit in my 2012 Nissan Leaf. Did they > >> >> change size in 2014? What is the typical brake pad size? > >> > > >> > Why on earth didn't you get the right part? > >> > Do US cars not have the equivalent of Haynes manuals? > >> > > >> > https://haynes.com/en/ > >> We do. Or at least the good auto-parts stores have an equivalent. > >> Worst case, it means asking the dude at the counter for the part(s) you > >> need. > > > > Doesn't work that way online. I asked two sellers about the size. No response so far. It's for the right model, but wrong year. > > > > Just curious what other cars use. Do people not know their shoe size or pad size? > It used to be you looked up your model-year in a paper parts catalog, but > it's mostly online now. > > if that doesn't work if you have alternative transport park and > disassemble your car and use the alternative to visit the supplier > with the old part in hand..I know what I need. Just don't know where to buy 6.5" pads. To summarize: haynes.com: 0 result for brake pad autozone: don't have pad alone ebay: no 2011 or 12 Leaf, 2013+ only
