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In article <f0648c0c-c344-4f29-bebf-2696aa6d8de0n@googlegroups.com>, langwadt@fonz.dk says...> > no such thing as windows XT you must mean XP, and you must be joking > to think that they are a usable option, support ended almost 20 years ago > if connected to the internet you'll be hijacked in hours > > >Yes, typo should be XP. I have an XP that was connected to the internet for many years up to about a week ago when something hapened to it. Never hijacked. Outside of newer programs that required a newer operating system it did all I neded it to. Then Chrome quit updating and some web sites would not work and Turbo Tax would not work. I just wonder what great feature was added to TT that it woukd not work under XP.
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On 11/10/2023 22:13, john larkin wrote:> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 02:24:40 -0000 (UTC), "Don" <g@crcomp.net> wrote: > >> john larkin wrote: >>> >>> I just "upgraded" from Windows 7 to 11. The new PC is a lot faster >>> running Spice. >>> >>> But the File Explorer is a horror. When I drag/drop a file, the cursor >>> becomes a giant ugly icon. When I copy a file where a copy already >>> exists, I have to go through a secondary dialog to compare file >>> attributes. >>> >>> If I right-click on a file, simple things like delete and rename are a >>> secondary operation! >> >> reg.exe add "HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32" /f /ve >> >> restores the familiar <right click> popup menu, for the current user. >> The popup menu adjustment and additional alterations are available at: >> >> <https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/worst-windows-11-features-fix-them> >> >> Danke, > > The registry patch worked! > > 1e6 thanks.It is a bit sad that you have to attack the registry with a flint axe to make Win11 more comfortable to use though. Some of their "improvements" make things much harder to do and for no good reason. My pet hate was the ribbon interface on Office 2007 it drove experienced users nuts! Give me that annoying "clippy" thing back any day! -- Martin Brown
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On 12/10/2023 17:18, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:> torsdag den 12. oktober 2023 kl. 16.37.44 UTC+2 skrev Ralph Mowery: >> In article <0rpeiid4qmutj96f8...@4ax.com>, jl@ >> 997PotHill.com says... >>>> >>>>> A new PC is a traumatic life event. >>>> >>>> REALLY? Win SEVEN?? I think you need to upgrade your computers more than once a decade! >>> >>> They finally started breaking. Otherwise, my old Win7 machines worked >>> fine. I'm typing this on the last one, at home. After, whenever, I get >>> one Win11 machine properly set up, we'll clone three copies. >>> >>> Win11 is really a horror.I don't find it that bad actually and the support for performance core scheduling is much better than in Win7. I got a Win11 machine because it was blisteringly fast and I really needed the speed up. I have a Win8.x (bad OS version think Picasso on a bad acid trip) portable for testing on that OS (bought for that very purpose). And I managed to skip Win10 entirely. Throughout my working life I have only ever upgraded when a new machine would be 3x faster at handling the workload than its predecessor. That used to be roughly every 3 years for decades. Now it is more like once a decade if that! My normal office machine is just over a decade old hardware now and apart from replacing the spinning rust with an SSD and adding more ram when prices fell has been more than adequate for all but the most demanding tasks.>> For many users the only need to upgrade from the win XT is because >> programs will not run on the older system. Main reason I first went toI still have an XP machine but no longer connected to any network for legacy testing and also for ancient programmers that require bit bashing on a physical parallel printer port. I boot it every once in a while just to make sure the disk heads don't stick.>> win 10 was Turbo Tax needed it. Now just what real feature of TT would >> be needed that it takes win 10 ? Same as for older software for many >> users. Office 98 will do for most home users. Then win 10 'broke' someOffice 97 was a fairly good vintage, the next decent one after that was 2002/2003. Then there was the abortion of 2007 which out of the box had so many bugs it was unusable. Launched about the same time as Vista Office 2007 never took all the flak that it deserved and Vista did.>> of my older programs so I had to buy newer versions of them. So now to >> do things I have to have old laptops and desk tops with win 98, xt and >> win 10 on them. I just bought a used win 11 computer off ebay as an >> older computer quit on me and I feel that in a year or two win 10 will >> not run TT.The pro version of the OS will let you run a convincing enough virtual machine for most of XP onwards to be satisfied with their lot. The only ting you can't do is run legacy code in the x64 environment (for obvious reasons). Right click, Properties, Compatibility usually works. The things that don't work tend to be doing naughty things in code.> no such thing as windows XT you must mean XP, and you must be joking > to think that they are a usable option, support ended almost 20 years ago > if connected to the internet you'll be hijacked in hoursThere is still plenty of big scientific kit (20 year lifetime) running on XP era PCs some of them with bespoke hardware that doesn't get on with modern faster CPUs so certain machines have higher than book value. (as do certain memory upgrades used in particular kit) Manufacturers almost never release drivers for such old equipment when new OS's are released so the poor users are stuck in a time warp. It annoys the hell out of corporate IT because the laboratory network containing a mix of modern kit and antiques has to be very carefully firewalled from the rest of the enterprise. Old and unsupported OS's are very vulnerable if connected to the internet. -- Martin Brown
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