On 12/10/2023 03:23, John Smiht wrote:> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:11:10 PM UTC-5, a a wrote: >> The idiot john larkin <j...@650pot.com> persisting in being an Off-topic troll... >> >> -- >> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote: >> >>> Path: not-for-mail >>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:13:56 +0000 >>> From: john larkin <j...@650pot.com> >>> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design >>> Subject: Re: Win11 repair >>> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 14:13:56 -0700 >>> Message-ID: <au3eii9imav77ikje...@4ax.com> >>> References: <b6ibiipi4e3rqjvme...@4ax.com> <2023...@crcomp.net> >>> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 trialware >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Lines: 28 >>> X-Trace: sv3-hCpmnSgauHuJCq0oqf6JvZKZuMxbCD+zBnOGTEb2r6rDSOqs8NwWZfKeg8q3oINn4EJqwDsqo8iJLVA!CkDTCuZsPigLS9fvSiGD6NH2e0bVND8ePHttFDUUlGdsco4iUcefhxWJm6LlmhAkD/JEAnxOOLmr!P4OsJw== >>> X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html >>> X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html >>> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers >>> X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly >>> X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 >>> Bytes: 1965 >>> X-Received-Bytes: 2103 > > > Who or what is this a a SOB? It appears that his only purpose is to waste bandwith and air, and annoy everyone. Could someone get his location and send Vito to, er, have a little talk with him?Probably a rather simple bot or a clueless fuckwit with delusions of adequacy - take your pick. He is precisely what your kill file is for! I'm inclined to think that you are one of his sock puppets since you cannot spell your own name correctly Mr Smiht (sic). -- Martin Brown
Win11 repair
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The idiot John Smiht <utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> persisting in being an Off-topic troll... -- John Smiht <utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> wrote:> X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:1051:b0:419:6cf4:247d with SMTP id f17-20020a05622a105100b004196cf4247dmr386943qte.10.1697077400412; > Wed, 11 Oct 2023 19:23:20 -0700 (PDT) > X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:18a5:b0:3a3:c492:9be6 with SMTP id > bi37-20020a05680818a500b003a3c4929be6mr9489869oib.2.1697077400098; Wed, 11 > Oct 2023 19:23:20 -0700 (PDT) > Path: not-for-mail > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 19:23:19 -0700 (PDT) > In-Reply-To: <GIHVM.141580$2Glf.71776@usenetxs.com> > Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=47.185.217.181; posting-account=ZADfMQoAAACuXpbWo81qnTgzKnI7_ZuA > NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.185.217.181 > References: <b6ibiipi4e3rqjvmefdfsqqvv1hfbvhn29@4ax.com> <20231010a@crcomp.net> > <au3eii9imav77ikjec3nf8vhrrl13nsqto@4ax.com> <GIHVM.141580$2Glf.71776@usenetxs.com> > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Message-ID: <8bc2feae-6c0a-478b-9617-ea3a43bea19dn@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Win11 repair > From: John Smiht <utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> > Injection-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 02:23:20 +0000 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-Received-Bytes: 2881
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The idiot John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> persisting in being an Off-topic troll... -- John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:> Path: not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 03:26:18 +0000 > From: John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: Re: Win11 repair > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 20:26:15 -0700 > Organization: Highland Tech > Reply-To: xx@yy.com > Message-ID: <vlpeiih4euv79dc4irqb5gumt9ujoh87hb@4ax.com> > References: <b6ibiipi4e3rqjvmefdfsqqvv1hfbvhn29@4ax.com> <20231010a@crcomp.net> <au3eii9imav77ikjec3nf8vhrrl13nsqto@4ax.com> <GIHVM.141580$2Glf.71776@usenetxs.com> <8bc2feae-6c0a-478b-9617-ea3a43bea19dn@googlegroups.com> > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Lines: 39 > X-Trace: sv3-6Ea8nWYxvxy7YuEHooRFyvXx2Gi6RN6Pl8918FMfAYyjub05BOAGY1JXdGiniP4Q2DzDjotz+/3Sc4u!rquUcS7jvbyI4dqPe+AOLK4klOEXpcwv1e9nu6v7r8/Q+J3UzngQNLgJ0OHv2i6A0ylPvSvJmVeU!ZOqg4A== > X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html > X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly > X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 > X-Received-Bytes: 3163
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The arsehole John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> persisting in being an Off-topic troll... -- John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:> Path: not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 03:33:18 +0000 > From: John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: Re: Win11 repair > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 20:33:14 -0700 > Organization: Highland Tech > Reply-To: xx@yy.com > Message-ID: <0rpeiid4qmutj96f8apnj33bbpv35t45tl@4ax.com> > References: <b6ibiipi4e3rqjvmefdfsqqvv1hfbvhn29@4ax.com> <0edf4ea3-f38b-4b61-a0a8-446744f62fe3n@googlegroups.com> > X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Lines: 33 > X-Trace: sv3-n5hVLc3dd6eH8J41Ip6S2Wk1S4dENZNzIKvXNIo6ZXw13maOTGlnNDgtHwXuxv/srv2Qwu1BKZ8SNyN!UyqklNc4nJtZowRi75aOzwm/yZRWt4VrDWHFdG2sahsG6rqbx0P1J1w7IH3Uh33pkpU8EjdTqRtG!+RPI7w== > X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html > X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly > X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 > Bytes: 2451 > X-Received-Bytes: 2589
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In article <0rpeiid4qmutj96f8apnj33bbpv35t45tl@4ax.com>, jl@ 997PotHill.com says...> > > >> A new PC is a traumatic life event. > > > >REALLY? Win SEVEN?? I think you need to upgrade your computers more than once a decade! > > They finally started breaking. Otherwise, my old Win7 machines worked > fine. I'm typing this on the last one, at home. After, whenever, I get > one Win11 machine properly set up, we'll clone three copies. > > Win11 is really a horror. > > >For many users the only need to upgrade from the win XT is because programs will not run on the older system. Main reason I first went to win 10 was Turbo Tax needed it. Now just what real feature of TT would be needed that it takes win 10 ? Same as for older software for many users. Office 98 will do for most home users. Then win 10 'broke' some of my older programs so I had to buy newer versions of them. So now to do things I have to have old laptops and desk tops with win 98, xt and win 10 on them. I just bought a used win 11 computer off ebay as an older computer quit on me and I feel that in a year or two win 10 will not run TT.
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:04:57 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:> >I just "upgraded" from Windows 7 to 11. The new PC is a lot faster >running Spice. > >But the File Explorer is a horror. When I drag/drop a file, the cursor >becomes a giant ugly icon. When I copy a file where a copy already >exists, I have to go through a secondary dialog to compare file >attributes. > >If I right-click on a file, simple things like delete and rename are a >secondary operation! > >So, does anyone use a Classic Shell type add-on to get things back to >simple? Our IT consultant doesn't want me to do that, but the W11 >stuff is a horror. > >A new PC is a traumatic life event. >Got my mother's W7 to W11 'upgrade' to fairly resemble previous GUI prefs using the shell and other powershell manipulations, last October. I thought that Edge had been expunged, only to find it has self-reinstalled itself almost exactly 12 months later. Previous uninstall work still exist and uninstall mthod finds later version (117.0.2045.60) doesn't seem to want to cooperate. While present, it nobbles all non-MS browser activity. Perhaps I should take out Chrome too - left it in as a last resort in negotiating chrome-only web sites. This is definitely NOT a new PC. RL
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:43:39 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:>On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:04:57 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: > >> >>I just "upgraded" from Windows 7 to 11. The new PC is a lot faster >>running Spice. >> >>But the File Explorer is a horror. When I drag/drop a file, the cursor >>becomes a giant ugly icon. When I copy a file where a copy already >>exists, I have to go through a secondary dialog to compare file >>attributes. >> >>If I right-click on a file, simple things like delete and rename are a >>secondary operation! >> >>So, does anyone use a Classic Shell type add-on to get things back to >>simple? Our IT consultant doesn't want me to do that, but the W11 >>stuff is a horror. >> >>A new PC is a traumatic life event. >> > >Got my mother's W7 to W11 'upgrade' to fairly resemble >previous GUI prefs using the shell and other powershell >manipulations, last October.I'd be interested in what all you did. My new W11 machine is getting to be mostly usable, after a lot of work.> >I thought that Edge had been expunged, only to find it >has self-reinstalled itself almost exactly 12 months later. >Previous uninstall work still exist and uninstall mthod finds >later version (117.0.2045.60) doesn't seem to want to >cooperate.It is tempting to turn off updates. I hate Microsoft.> >While present, it nobbles all non-MS browser activity. >Perhaps I should take out Chrome too - left it in as a >last resort in negotiating chrome-only web sites.I'm running Firefox and it works. I have enough RAM on my new machines to handle the 30ish processes that it runs. Irfanview works, but I can't associate it to jpeg files. Windows has some dreadful jpeg viewer that it won't give up. I installed Foxit as a rational pdf viewer. Edrawings, useful bloatware, works fine. PADS works! LT Spice works fine. It got a little buggy on the Win7 boxes. My homebrew compiled PowerBasic engineering apps work, once I found the proper console emulation choice. Out of the box, they were really weird. Image files on cameras are somehow locked to not allow any unauthorized viewers to open them. Did I mention that I hate Microsoft?
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torsdag den 12. oktober 2023 kl. 16.37.44 UTC+2 skrev Ralph Mowery:> In article <0rpeiid4qmutj96f8...@4ax.com>, jl@ > 997PotHill.com says... > > > > > >> A new PC is a traumatic life event. > > > > > >REALLY? Win SEVEN?? I think you need to upgrade your computers more than once a decade! > > > > They finally started breaking. Otherwise, my old Win7 machines worked > > fine. I'm typing this on the last one, at home. After, whenever, I get > > one Win11 machine properly set up, we'll clone three copies. > > > > Win11 is really a horror. > > > > > > > For many users the only need to upgrade from the win XT is because > programs will not run on the older system. Main reason I first went to > win 10 was Turbo Tax needed it. Now just what real feature of TT would > be needed that it takes win 10 ? Same as for older software for many > users. Office 98 will do for most home users. Then win 10 'broke' some > of my older programs so I had to buy newer versions of them. So now to > do things I have to have old laptops and desk tops with win 98, xt and > win 10 on them. I just bought a used win 11 computer off ebay as an > older computer quit on me and I feel that in a year or two win 10 will > not run TT.no such thing as windows XT you must mean XP, and you must be joking to think that they are a usable option, support ended almost 20 years ago if connected to the internet you'll be hijacked in hours
