On 12/10/2023 23:22, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:> torsdag den 12. oktober 2023 kl. 22.43.36 UTC+2 skrev Martin Brown: >> There is still plenty of big scientific kit (20 year lifetime) running >> on XP era PCs some of them with bespoke hardware that doesn't get on >> with modern faster CPUs so certain machines have higher than book value. >> (as do certain memory upgrades used in particular kit) >> >> Manufacturers almost never release drivers for such old equipment when >> new OS's are released so the poor users are stuck in a time warp. >> >> It annoys the hell out of corporate IT because the laboratory network >> containing a mix of modern kit and antiques has to be very carefully >> firewalled from the rest of the enterprise. Old and unsupported OS's are >> very vulnerable if connected to the internet. > > that is a special case, no ones doing that for a home/office computer and it would be pointlessBut it remains the case that a cutting edge PC from 10 years ago is only about 3x slower than a cutting edge PC today (except for stuff which is very multithreaded and can use graphics cards as accelerators). -- Martin Brown
Win11 repair
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On 10/13/2023 1:57 AM, Martin Brown wrote:> You want settings apps>default apps > > Change windows naff viewer to the one you prefer. > Likewise for any other file types you want. > I use VLC instead of Meeja viewer"Open with" from the context menu. "Choose default program" "Browse..." to the application of choice (if not PREVIOUSLY having been associated with the application) Enable "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file" This approach has the advantage of ADDING an association to the Registry so that subsequent use of "Open with" will enumerate all such prior associations as a reminder of the apps that you have previously considered compatible with that file "type" (poor choice of term given that it's only the file EXTENSION that is being checked) NOT enabling the "Always use..." option leaves the current DEFAULT association in place but ADDS the new selection. E.g., there are many different apps that I may want to use to process a .JPG/JPEG, .TIFF, .DOC, .M, .PS, etc. This provides an easy way to remember which are capable of that. [This on W7; I don't run 11 but assume the open-with verb has been preserved]
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 02:40:22 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:>On 10/13/2023 1:57 AM, Martin Brown wrote: >> You want settings apps>default apps >> >> Change windows naff viewer to the one you prefer. >> Likewise for any other file types you want. >> I use VLC instead of Meeja viewer > >"Open with" from the context menu. > >"Choose default program" > >"Browse..." to the application of choice (if not PREVIOUSLY >having been associated with the application) > >Enable "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file" > >This approach has the advantage of ADDING an association >to the Registry so that subsequent use of "Open with" >will enumerate all such prior associations as a reminder >of the apps that you have previously considered compatible >with that file "type" (poor choice of term given that >it's only the file EXTENSION that is being checked) > >NOT enabling the "Always use..." option leaves the current DEFAULT >association in place but ADDS the new selection. > >E.g., there are many different apps that I may want to use to process >a .JPG/JPEG, .TIFF, .DOC, .M, .PS, etc. This provides an easy way >to remember which are capable of that. > >[This on W7; I don't run 11 but assume the open-with verb >has been preserved]I can't find a way in Win11, or in the latest Irfanview, to associate jpeg with an app. It always uses their ugly viewer. The file association function in Irfanview says "use the system file associatons." Maybe there is a registry edit.
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fredag den 13. oktober 2023 kl. 18.48.15 UTC+2 skrev john larkin:> On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 02:40:22 -0700, Don Y > <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote: > > >On 10/13/2023 1:57 AM, Martin Brown wrote: > >> You want settings apps>default apps > >> > >> Change windows naff viewer to the one you prefer. > >> Likewise for any other file types you want. > >> I use VLC instead of Meeja viewer > > > >"Open with" from the context menu. > > > >"Choose default program" > > > >"Browse..." to the application of choice (if not PREVIOUSLY > >having been associated with the application) > > > >Enable "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file" > > > >This approach has the advantage of ADDING an association > >to the Registry so that subsequent use of "Open with" > >will enumerate all such prior associations as a reminder > >of the apps that you have previously considered compatible > >with that file "type" (poor choice of term given that > >it's only the file EXTENSION that is being checked) > > > >NOT enabling the "Always use..." option leaves the current DEFAULT > >association in place but ADDS the new selection. > > > >E.g., there are many different apps that I may want to use to process > >a .JPG/JPEG, .TIFF, .DOC, .M, .PS, etc. This provides an easy way > >to remember which are capable of that. > > > >[This on W7; I don't run 11 but assume the open-with verb > >has been preserved] > I can't find a way in Win11, or in the latest Irfanview, to associate > jpeg with an app. It always uses their ugly viewer. > > The file association function in Irfanview says "use the system file > associatons." > > Maybe there is a registry edit.right click a jpeg file, select "open with"- >"Choose another app" pick an app and tick the box that says "Always use this app to open JPG files"
