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Started by Don Y ●January 31, 2023
Reply by Jan Panteltje ●February 7, 20232023-02-07
On a sunny day (Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:01:19 -0500) it happened Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
<edfbc261-d373-0b06-2b41-145ec2fa273f@electrooptical.net>:


>Right, which is where the gasoline generator comes in.


Solar is cheaper
Reply by Phil Hobbs ●February 7, 20232023-02-07
On 2023-02-07 02:02, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> On a sunny day (Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:01:19 -0500) it happened Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
> <edfbc261-d373-0b06-2b41-145ec2fa273f@electrooptical.net>:
> 
>> Right, which is where the gasoline generator comes in.
> 
> Solar is cheaper
> 


Yer cracked, but we knew that. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

-- 
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by James ●February 7, 20232023-02-07
On 06/02/2023 15:12, Don Y wrote:


>>> why not use a microwave oven for all
>>> food prep?
>>
>> Because it is inefficient. (Mine is; present your results.)
>
> IME, I've never heard anyone cite the ENERGY EFFICIENCY of their
> meal prep method/equipment.


Evidentially you have missed all the air fryer debates and much of the 
rest about the price of electricity and gas.



> If I was concerned with the energy efficiency of the meal, I would
> have taken the sauce out of the freezer yesterday and let it thaw
> in the refrigerator -- instead of "forcing" the issue in the microwave!


I do.



>> Previously when I tested the induction hob it was close to the
>> kettle's efficiency, like 93% vs 87% but I heated 1kg of water then,
>> the kettle has a minimum of 0.5kgs so I did not test this time.
>
> Wow, you must be the life of the party -- not!  :>


No.  I am a thermo-fluids engineer writing in sci.* news group but not 
for much longer if your reply is the standard.
Reply by Don Y ●February 7, 20232023-02-07
On 2/7/2023 2:00 AM, James wrote:

> On 06/02/2023 15:12, Don Y wrote:
> 
>>>> why not use a microwave oven for all
>>>> food prep?
>>>
>>> Because it is inefficient. (Mine is; present your results.)
>>
>> IME, I've never heard anyone cite the ENERGY EFFICIENCY of their
>> meal prep method/equipment.
> 
> Evidentially you have missed all the air fryer debates and much of the rest 
> about the price of electricity and gas.


Or, they've simply not existed on this side of the pond.  We have
a (shamefully) much more cavalier attitude towards energy, here.

At this moment, there are three computers running, here.  A dozen more
are drawing their allowed 1W while "off", awaiting a pushbutton start.
The same number of monitors "sleeping", waiting for signal to wake up.

The 3 TVs all sit waiting for a burst of Ir to bring them to life.
Ditto with the two HiFis.

The stove and microwave are dutifully telling a sleeping household
the current time of day (night).  As is another clock in the living
room and one at each bedside.

Twelve UPSs are each displaying their current loads and efficiencies.
Garage door opener is waiting for an RF signal to open the door -- and
monitoring the area by the door for obstruction/activity despite the
door being closed.

I can hear the transformer in the furnace humming as it waits to
warm the cool night air.

And, there are 2200W of XMAS lights keeping the chill off the
citrus trees just in case it gets much below freezing.  (My
neighbor has probably half that much as his trees are much
smaller)

Do you think I worry that the microwave oven is "wasting" a watt
while "off"?  Do you think any of my neighbors have unplugged their
microwaves, garage door openers, stoves, furnaces, computers,
cell phone chargers, etc. to eliminate these power vampires?


>> If I was concerned with the energy efficiency of the meal, I would
>> have taken the sauce out of the freezer yesterday and let it thaw
>> in the refrigerator -- instead of "forcing" the issue in the microwave!
> 
> I do.


Good for you!  (really)  I worry about how much water I use as water is
a scarcity, here.  But, I can buy pretty much all the power that I want!


>>> Previously when I tested the induction hob it was close to the
>>> kettle's efficiency, like 93% vs 87% but I heated 1kg of water then,
>>> the kettle has a minimum of 0.5kgs so I did not test this time.
>>
>> Wow, you must be the life of the party -- not!&nbsp; :>
> 
> No.&nbsp; I am a thermo-fluids engineer writing in sci.* news group but not for much 
> longer if your reply is the standard.


My replies -- then and now -- are honest.  You might want to reread them
to see what they say about how many/most folks approach things like cooking
choices, here.

If you aren't happy with them, that's your choice.
Reply by John Larkin ●February 7, 20232023-02-07
On Tue, 07 Feb 2023 07:02:14 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:


>On a sunny day (Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:01:19 -0500) it happened Phil Hobbs
><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
><edfbc261-d373-0b06-2b41-145ec2fa273f@electrooptical.net>:
>
>>Right, which is where the gasoline generator comes in.
>
>Solar is cheaper




What about a few weeks with no untilties and snow and below 0 deg F?

"On a sunny day..." is, I assume, an attempt at irony.
Reply by sibolis jahanamnaburju ●March 8, 20232023-03-08
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