On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 6:00:01 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > > >On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: > >> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote: > >>> On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: > >>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote: > >>>>> Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are > >>>>> up 50%. > >>>>> > >>>>> If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia > >>>>> so badly, why not produce more oil? > >>>> > >>>> It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible. > >>>> > >>>>> Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial > >>>>> complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of > >>>>> American taxpayers. > >>>> > >>>> That's unlikely to be true. > >>>> > >>>> They know Ukraine can't win. > >>>> > >>>> They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory. > >>>> > >>>>> Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms. > >>>>> > >>>>> Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE. > >>>> > >>>> Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies. > >>>> > >>> Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current > >>> level of intensity I think. > >>> > >>> If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I > >>> don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least > >>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather > >>> than escalate. > >> > >> He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia > >> > >>> Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured > >>> right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul > >>> position is what it is. > >>> > >>> I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul > >>> position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the > >>> Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's > >>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag > >>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob. > >> > >> You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine. > > > >I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US > >shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military > >bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on > >about the dangers of expansionism. > > > >> Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time. > > > >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >of "justice". > > Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > amendment to the Constitution.But orchestrating the invasion of the Capitol Building with the intention of ubdoing the results of the 2020 presidential election isn't one of them.> And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic thing to do. We know that there is cheating.But nowhere near enough of it to have reversed the result. That proposition was repeatedly tests in the courts, and got thrown out rapidly every time. Trump's claim that he was deprived of victory by fraud is an outright lie. If he thinks it isn't he's a dangerous lunatic. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
OT: If US Democrats and neocons hate Russia, why not produce more gas?
Started by ●June 16, 2022
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 6:44:09 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:19:55 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > > >On 6/17/2022 11:59 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> > >>> On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: > >>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote: > >>>>> On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: > >>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote: > >>>>>>> Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are > >>>>>>> up 50%. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia > >>>>>>> so badly, why not produce more oil? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial > >>>>>>> complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of > >>>>>>> American taxpayers. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That's unlikely to be true. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They know Ukraine can't win. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current > >>>>> level of intensity I think. > >>>>> > >>>>> If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I > >>>>> don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least > >>>>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather > >>>>> than escalate. > >>>> > >>>> He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia > >>>> > >>>>> Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured > >>>>> right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul > >>>>> position is what it is. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul > >>>>> position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the > >>>>> Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's > >>>>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag > >>>>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob. > >>>> > >>>> You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine. > >>> > >>> I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US > >>> shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military > >>> bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on > >>> about the dangers of expansionism. > >>> > >>>> Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time. > >>> > >>> I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >>> in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >>> fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >>> of "justice" > >> > >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > >> amendment to the Constitution. > >> > >> And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic > >> thing to do. We know that there is cheating. > >> > > > >"I gave 'em a sword. And they stuck it in, and they twisted it with > >relish. And I guess if I had been in their position, I'd have done the > >same thing." said Nixon. > > > >The Democrats are clearly enjoying twisting this sword. And if it had > >been a Democrat president who did the same thing, the Republicans > >would've done the same thing. > > > >But at the end of the day I think they're wasting their time, the > >hearings will likely amount to nothing of substance happening and in the > >meantime they're probably going to lose Congress and probably the > >Presidency in epic style. > > Reruns of Young Sheldon are getting more views.The reality of what Trump got up to, and so far has got away with, can't be comforting viewing for any American with any sense. Watching "Young Sheldon" would be much easier and a lot more satisfying. Rather like believing lying denialist propaganda so you don't have to think what progressively increasing anthropogneic global warming is going to do to your environment. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 4:46:29 AM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> > > >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >> >> >of "justice" > > > >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > >> >> amendment to the Constitution. > > > >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal > >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get > >> >away with it again. > > > >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? > > > >Where did the 'executed' idea come from? > You might consider reading the thread. > It's YOUR cherry, and you > >picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another > >cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your > >'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog. > You might consider reading the thread. > > > >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose > >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president > >rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily > >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault > >Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed > >by' any reading of the Constitution. > > He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first > amendment to the Constitution too.He did use those words, He also told them they'd have to fight. There's a contradiction there. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:>On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >> >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >> >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >> >> >> >of "justice" >> > >> >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> >> >> amendment to the Constitution. >> > >> >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal >> >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get >> >> >away with it again. >> > >> >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? >> > >> >Where did the 'executed' idea come from? >> You might consider reading the thread. >> It's YOUR cherry, and you >> >picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another >> >cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your >> >'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog. >> You might consider reading the thread. > >Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that. > >> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose >> >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president >> >rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily >> >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault >> >Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed >> >by' any reading of the Constitution. > >> He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first >> amendment to the Constitution too. > >What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be >muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean >that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery >instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment >to the Constitution.He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building. A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies. That's not insurrection and certainly not treason. November should be great fun. -- Anybody can count to one. - Robert Widlar
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >> >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >> >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >> >> >> >of "justice" > >> > > >> >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > >> >> >> amendment to the Constitution. > >> > > >> >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal > >> >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get > >> >> >away with it again. > >> > > >> >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? > >> > > >> >Where did the 'executed' idea come from? > >> You might consider reading the thread. > >> It's YOUR cherry, and you > >> >picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another > >> >cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your > >> >'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog. > >> You might consider reading the thread. > > > >Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that. > > > >> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose > >> >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president > >> >rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily > >> >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault > >> >Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed > >> >by' any reading of the Constitution. > > > >> He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first > >> amendment to the Constitution too. > > > >What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest > >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be > >muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean > >that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery > >instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment > >to the Constitution.> He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.Perhaps not in so many words. But they would have had to achieve what he seems to wanted them to.> A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.That's not what he wanted them to achieve, He wanted the result of the 2020 presidential election set aside, and that looks exactly like treason to me.> That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.It was most definitely insurrection. The aim was treasonable. Ineffectual treason is still treason. Think about Guy Fawkes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes> November should be great fun.Probably early enough to see Trump indicted. Perhaps a bit early to see him executed. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
No point in discussing anything with Bill "Bozo" Sloman, the Australian troll. Bozo is an incessant liar who cannot be reasoned with. Its fiction never ends. "the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic) "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so" (Bozo being Bozo) "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions" (Bozo is a textbook cannibal leftist) -- Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:> X-Received: by 2002:adf:e196:0:b0:219:f3c7:fd88 with SMTP id az22-20020adfe196000000b00219f3c7fd88mr14887767wrb.402.1655572972450; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:22:52 -0700 (PDT) > X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:1001:b0:663:49fa:b973 with SMTP id w1-20020a056902100100b0066349fab973mr16878465ybt.631.1655572971760; Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT) > Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.128.87.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT) > In-Reply-To: <kilrah5okniepeo0d6u73840niqdgjuuuu@4ax.com> > Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=192.87.79.65; posting-account=SJ46pgoAAABuUDuHc5uDiXN30ATE-zi- > NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.87.79.65 > References: <xF0rK.126470$wIO9.55880@fx12.iad> <f3cb7c20-42e1-42f3-b7f2-56a33b252a1cn@googlegroups.com> <5n1rK.3449$vZ1.2976@fx04.iad> <2v8pah5u8umr6nhe0g3kkn64frp5e55dvt@4ax.com> <a37ccea8-2851-4427-880a-f3376e225b57n@googlegroups.com> <8popah9l6cq8p0ibnoc7phrn7cnd8jdq7g@4ax.com> <a111d342-6bd2-48c0-9448-db6a4a7b36b7n@googlegroups.com> <lseqahpnbvhsrcvkh81f0rc37duott8ke7@4ax.com> <9cf3d6e7-4b4e-45ae-9635-3f33d91e86ban@googlegroups.com> <kilrah5okniepeo0d6u73840niqdgjuuuu@4ax.com> > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Message-ID: <a68572c6-27da-4199-afb6-07ad92340c22n@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: OT: If US Democrats and neocons hate Russia, why not produce more gas? > From: Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> > Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:22:52 +0000 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:671966 > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >> >> >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >> >> >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >> >> >> >> >of "justice" >> >> > >> >> >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> >> >> >> amendment to the Constitution. >> >> > >> >> >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal >> >> >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get >> >> >> >away with it again. >> >> > >> >> >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? >> >> > >> >> >Where did the 'executed' idea come from? >> >> You might consider reading the thread. >> >> It's YOUR cherry, and you >> >> >picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another >> >> >cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your >> >> >'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog. >> >> You might consider reading the thread. >> > >> >Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that. >> > >> >> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose >> >> >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president >> >> >rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily >> >> >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault >> >> >Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed >> >> >by' any reading of the Constitution. >> > >> >> He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first >> >> amendment to the Constitution too. >> > >> >What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest >> >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be >> >muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean >> >that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery >> >instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment >> >to the Constitution. > >> He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building. > > Perhaps not in so many words. But they would have had to achieve what he seems to wanted them to. > >> A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies. > > That's not what he wanted them to achieve, He wanted the result of the 2020 presidential election set aside, and that looks exactly like treason to me. > >> That's not insurrection and certainly not treason. > > It was most definitely insurrection. The aim was treasonable. Ineffectual treason is still treason. Think about Guy Fawkes. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes > >> November should be great fun. > > Probably early enough to see Trump indicted. Perhaps a bit early to see him executed. > > -- > Bill Sloman, Sydney > > >
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing > except insults to this group.Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to USENET (**) has been 61.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET. ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at least 1933 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and 1019 have been John Doe "troll format" postings. The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 19 Jun 2022 01:26:31 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t8lu07$f00$2@dont-email.me>. This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups readers who happen by to point out that John Dope does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters. TTQQZpTyhtdN
Reply by ●June 19, 20222022-06-19
On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 6:47:06 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >> >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >> >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >> >> >> >of "justice" > >> > > >> >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > >> >> >> amendment to the Constitution. > >> > > >> >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal > >> >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get > >> >> >away with it again. > >> > > >> >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?> >> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose > >> >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act...> >> He told the crowd to protest peacefully.> >What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest > >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be > >muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean > >that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery > >instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment > >to the Constitution.> He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.How do you know? Have all his communications been disclosed? For myself, I haven't tried to read everything the Donald said that day, nor have I memorized his codebook of insider signals.> A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.That accounts for 'a few yahoos' out of hundreds. It doesn't occlude evidence of activities not concerned with selfies. The cherry-picking of an innocent moment or three isn't exculpatory.> That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.Not your call; a jury or judge would need to decide that, after hearing testimony and examining evidence.
Reply by ●June 19, 20222022-06-19
On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 3:26:38 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:> Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote: > > On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >> >> >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >> >> >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >> >> >> >> >of "justice" > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > >> >> >> >> amendment to the Constitution. > >> >> > > >> >> >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal > >> >> >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get > >> >> >> >away with it again. > >> >> > > >> >> >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? > >> >> >> > >> >> It's YOUR cherry, and you picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your 'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog. > >> >> > >> >> You might consider reading the thread.John Larkin doesn't read post from people like me, who are unlikely to flatter him> >> >Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that. > >> > > >> >> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose > >> >> >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president > >> >> >rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily > >> >> >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault > >> >> >Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed > >> >> >by' any reading of the Constitution. > >> > > >> >> He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first > >> >> amendment to the Constitution too. > >> > > >> >What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest > >> >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be > >> >muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean > >> >that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery > >> >instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment > >> >to the Constitution. > > > >> He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building. > > > > Perhaps not in so many words. But they would have had to achieve what he seems to wanted them to. > > > >> A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies. > > > > That's not what he wanted them to achieve, He wanted the result of the 2020 presidential election set aside, and that looks exactly like treason to me. > > > >> That's not insurrection and certainly not treason. > > > > It was most definitely insurrection. The aim was treasonable. Ineffectual treason is still treason. Think about Guy Fawkes. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes > > > >> November should be great fun. > > > > Probably early enough to see Trump indicted. Perhaps a bit early to see him executed. > > No point in discussing anything with Bill Sloman, the Australian troll.Certainly true of John Doe who doesn't have any idea what a discussion might look like and appears to lack the capacity to play any part in anything that looks like a discussion.> Bozo is an incessant liar who cannot be reasoned with. Its fiction never ends.By which John Doe means that I don't take John Doe deluded assertions seriously. He's totally incapable of realising that his own silly ideas aren't true. If he had he'd qualify as liar. He seems to think that repeating the same silly idea constitutes "reasoning" which is another one of his fatuous delusions. <snipped the rest of the recycled drivel> -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●June 19, 20222022-06-19
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > John Larkin wrote: >> >> >> whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> >> >> bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:>> >> >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into >> >> >> >> >senility/irrelevance in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the >> >> >> >> >end of his days would suit me fine. Unfortunately I think >> >> >> >> >we're unlikely even to get that small amount of "justice" >> >> > >> >> >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by >> >> >> >> the 1st amendment to the Constitution. >> >> > >> >> >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to >> >> >> >non-criminal persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking >> >> >> >too often to get away with it again. >> >> > >> >> >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? > >> >> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose >> >> >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act... > >> >> He told the crowd to protest peacefully.True. https://youtu.be/n4Bq6ADEaBk?t=58>> >What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to >> >'protest peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be >> >muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean that voicing >> >breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery instructions is >> >without consequence. You might reread the first amendment to the >> >Constitution. > >> He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building. > > How do you know?Wherever you're from... Here in America a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. Trump told the protesters to march "PEACEFULLY". https://youtu.be/n4Bq6ADEaBk?t=58>> A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies. > > That accounts for 'a few yahoos' out of hundreds.None of the protesters, five of which were killed, were carrying weapons.>> That's not insurrection and certainly not treason. > > Not your callIt's a "common sense" call. If it were an attempt to overthrow our government, it wasn't, they would have gone to the executive branch and brought a few weapons with them... We need John Belushi back to make SNL funny again. He would be the guy with the horns cannibal leftists love to talk about. Entering and sitting down at Nancy Pelosi's desk with his boots on the table, he calls general Milley and starts giving him orders... That would be funny because it's ridiculous. January 6 was no threat to our government. Anybody who believes it was is nuts. It might have felt threatening to some members of Congress that day, but it was not a threat to our country in any way, shape, or form.
