On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:19:55 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:>On 6/17/2022 11:59 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: >>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote: >>>>> On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: >>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote: >>>>>>> Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are >>>>>>> up 50%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia >>>>>>> so badly, why not produce more oil? >>>>>> >>>>>> It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial >>>>>>> complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of >>>>>>> American taxpayers. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's unlikely to be true. >>>>>> >>>>>> They know Ukraine can't win. >>>>>> >>>>>> They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE. >>>>>> >>>>>> Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies. >>>>>> >>>>> Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current >>>>> level of intensity I think. >>>>> >>>>> If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I >>>>> don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >>>>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>>>> than escalate. >>>> >>>> He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia >>>> >>>>> Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured >>>>> right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>>>> position is what it is. >>>>> >>>>> I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul >>>>> position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the >>>>> Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>>>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag >>>>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob. >>>> >>>> You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine. >>> >>> I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US >>> shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military >>> bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on >>> about the dangers of expansionism. >>> >>>> Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time. >>> >>> I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >>> in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >>> fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >>> of "justice" >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> amendment to the Constitution. >> >> And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic >> thing to do. We know that there is cheating. >> > >"I gave 'em a sword. And they stuck it in, and they twisted it with >relish. And I guess if I had been in their position, I'd have done the >same thing." said Nixon. > >The Democrats are clearly enjoying twisting this sword. And if it had >been a Democrat president who did the same thing, the Republicans >would've done the same thing. > >But at the end of the day I think they're wasting their time, the >hearings will likely amount to nothing of substance happening and in the >meantime they're probably going to lose Congress and probably the >Presidency in epic style.Reruns of Young Sheldon are getting more views. -- Anybody can count to one. - Robert Widlar
OT: If US Democrats and neocons hate Russia, why not produce more gas?
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Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:24:38 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:>On 6/17/2022 11:59 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: >>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote: >>>>> On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: >>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote: >>>>>>> Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are >>>>>>> up 50%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia >>>>>>> so badly, why not produce more oil? >>>>>> >>>>>> It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial >>>>>>> complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of >>>>>>> American taxpayers. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's unlikely to be true. >>>>>> >>>>>> They know Ukraine can't win. >>>>>> >>>>>> They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE. >>>>>> >>>>>> Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies. >>>>>> >>>>> Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current >>>>> level of intensity I think. >>>>> >>>>> If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I >>>>> don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >>>>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>>>> than escalate. >>>> >>>> He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia >>>> >>>>> Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured >>>>> right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>>>> position is what it is. >>>>> >>>>> I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul >>>>> position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the >>>>> Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>>>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag >>>>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob. >>>> >>>> You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine. >>> >>> I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US >>> shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military >>> bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on >>> about the dangers of expansionism. >>> >>>> Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time. >>> >>> I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >>> in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >>> fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >>> of "justice" >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> amendment to the Constitution. >> >> And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic >> thing to do. We know that there is cheating. >> >> > ><https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/17/politics/donald-trump-accountability-jan-6-hearings-analysis/index.html> > >"January 6 committee wrestles with the same unsolvable question about >Trump -- how to hold him to accountable" > >Of course they're struggling on how to "hold him accountable", this is >America there's no way to hold a billionaire accountable for anything. >And the Democrats helped build that reality as much as anyone, I don't >shed too many tears that they now find themselves at the mercy of the >rules they helped write down.They are just tribal political power mongers trying to damage the other tribe. That's boring, which is why there's not much real public interest. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
Saying support for Ukraine is an intentional lie might be a little harsh. At least now Zelensky has $50 billion of American taxpayers' money to stuff into his helicopter. No point in discussing anything with the Australian Bill "Bozo" Sloman. Bozo is a chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with. Its fiction never ends. Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote: >> Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues a > re >> up 50%. >> >> If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Ru > ssia >> so badly, why not produce more oil? > > It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible. > >> Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-indust > rial >> complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense > of >> American taxpayers. > > That's unlikely to be true. > > They know Ukraine can't win. > > They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory. > >> Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell ar > ms. >> >> Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE. > > Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies. >
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 17:31:21 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote: > > On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: > > > On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote: > > >> Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are > > >> up 50%. > > >> > > >> If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia > > >> so badly, why not produce more oil? > > > > > > It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible. > > > > > >> Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial > > >> complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of > > >> American taxpayers. > > > > > > That's unlikely to be true. > > > > > > They know Ukraine can't win. > > > > > > They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory. > > > > > >> Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms. > > >> > > >> Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE. > > > > > > Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies. > > > > > Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current > > level of intensity I think. > > > > If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I > > don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least > > a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather > > than escalate. > He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia > > Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured > > right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul > > position is what it is. > > > > I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul > > position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the > > Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's > > buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag > > this one out to Nov 2024 no prob. > > You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine. > > Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time. > > -- > Bill Sloman, Sydney--You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas You seem to forget that US's economy is virtual, based on Wall Street Cassinos Get real Latest News All Times Eastern 2:11p Gold futures settle lower after wild week for markets 2:10p Your friend asks you to be executor of their will — should you do it? 2:05p Retiring? Great, but don’t stop learning. 2:03p Barron's SpaceX Fires Employees That Were Critical of Elon Musk Top Headlines Read full story ‘I feel bad that I’ll be taking most of his income’: I make twice what my boyfriend does. He pays me $300 in rent, but I want him to pay $800. Is that fair? Read full story The next bull market is just months away and could take the S&P 500 to 6,000: A BofA history lesson Read full story Wall Street is officially in a bear market: What strategists say investors should do now US is global looser in COVID19 pandemics and recovery may take 10-20 years, if any
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >of "justice"> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > amendment to the Constitution.Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get away with it again.
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:>On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >> >of "justice" > >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> amendment to the Constitution. > >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get >away with it again.If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:14:07 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote:>On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 17:31:21 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote: >> > On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote: >> > > On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote: >> > >> Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are >> > >> up 50%. >> > >> >> > >> If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia >> > >> so badly, why not produce more oil? >> > > >> > > It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible. >> > > >> > >> Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial >> > >> complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of >> > >> American taxpayers. >> > > >> > > That's unlikely to be true. >> > > >> > > They know Ukraine can't win. >> > > >> > > They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory. >> > > >> > >> Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms. >> > >> >> > >> Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE. >> > > >> > > Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies. >> > > >> > Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current >> > level of intensity I think. >> > >> > If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I >> > don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >> > a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >> > than escalate. >> He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia >> > Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured >> > right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >> > position is what it is. >> > >> > I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul >> > position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the >> > Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >> > buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag >> > this one out to Nov 2024 no prob. >> >> You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine. >> >> Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time. >> >> -- >> Bill Sloman, Sydney >--You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas > >You seem to forget that US's economy is virtual, based on Wall Street CassinosNo, it's based on what we produce. Long-term, an economy can only consume whatever it can make or steal. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > > > >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >> >of "justice"> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > >> amendment to the Constitution.> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal > >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get > >away with it again.> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?Where did the 'executed' idea come from? It's YOUR cherry, and you picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your 'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog. What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed by' any reading of the Constitution.
Reply by ●June 17, 20222022-06-17
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:>On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >> > >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >> >> >of "justice" > >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> >> amendment to the Constitution. > >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get >> >away with it again. > >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? > >Where did the 'executed' idea come from?You might consider reading the thread. It's YOUR cherry, and you>picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another >cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your >'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.You might consider reading the thread.> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president >rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault >Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed >by' any reading of the Constitution.He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first amendment to the Constitution too. -- Anybody can count to one. - Robert Widlar
Reply by ●June 18, 20222022-06-18
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> > > >> >> >I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance > >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me > >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount > >> >> >of "justice" > > > >> >> Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st > >> >> amendment to the Constitution. > > > >> >Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal > >> >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get > >> >away with it again. > > > >> If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do? > > > >Where did the 'executed' idea come from? > You might consider reading the thread. > It's YOUR cherry, and you > >picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another > >cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your > >'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog. > You might consider reading the thread.Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that.> >What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose > >of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president > >rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily > >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault > >Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed > >by' any reading of the Constitution.> He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first > amendment to the Constitution too.What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment to the Constitution.
