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Started by Anthony William Sloman March 20, 2022
On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org > > wrote: > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my > >> own country. > >> > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with > >> an accident report > > > > Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT > > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced > > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land.
That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!
> > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but > > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a > > certified, licensed pilot (false), > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed.
Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same.
On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org > > > wrote: > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my > > >> own country. > > >> > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with > > >> an accident report > > > > > > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries.
He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb.
> > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT > > > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced > > > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > > > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!
Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody.
> > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but > > > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a > > > certified, licensed pilot (false),
Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see.
> > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed. > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same.
An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid, even though it clearly shouldn't be. Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org > > > > wrote: > > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my > > > >> own country. > > > >> > > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with > > > >> an accident report > > > > > > > > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. > He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb. > > > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT > > > > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced > > > > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > > > > > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND! > Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody. > > > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but > > > > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a > > > > certified, licensed pilot (false), > Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see. > > > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed. > > > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same. > An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid,
Hey SNIPPERMAN, YOU are the troll that makes "all kinds of claims," I deal with FACTS. My certificate DOES have an issue date on it, and once it is issued it is valid unless it is revoked. even though it clearly shouldn't be. More lies by SNIPPERMAN as he has NOTHING on which to base this lie. What SNIPPERMAN DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000. This is even more than commercial pilots which may list 20,000 hours or more because MOST of their "flying" is actually done by an autopilot - they are NOT flying AT ALL!
> > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto.
Yeah, SNIPPERMAN, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!!
> > -- > Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 3:57:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my > > > > >> own country. > > > > >> > > > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with > > > > >> an accident report > > > > > > > > > > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > > > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. > > He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb. > > > > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT > > > > > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced > > > > > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > > > > > > > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > > > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND! > > Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody. > > > > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but > > > > > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a > > > > > certified, licensed pilot (false), > > > > > > > Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see. > > > > > > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed. > > > > > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same.
He's more likely to have been certified as a lunatic, but he wouldn't tell us about that.
> > An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid, even though it clearly shouldn't be. > > Hey SLOMAN, YOU are the troll that makes "all kinds of claims".
I'm sure that it makes you happy to claim that, but it doesn't happen to be true. > I deal with FACTS. My certificate DOES have an issue date on it, and once it is issued it is valid unless it is revoked. Flyguy likes to think that he deals with "facts" but he "deals" with the ones he doesn't like by ignoring them.
> More lies by Sloman as he has NOTHING on which to base this lie.
Not that Flyguy can be bothered to identify which observation he doesn't like. Flyguy's idiocy gets paraded here at regular intervals, but he doesn't seem to realise quite how obvious his idiocy is.
> What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000.
You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth.
> This is even more than commercial pilots which may list 20,000 hours or more because MOST of their "flying" is actually done by an autopilot - they are NOT flying AT ALL!
If you kept flying for long enough you could clock up that many hours. If I remember rightly, even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification.
> > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto. > > Yeah, Sloman, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!!
In your ever-so-expert and only moderately demented opinion. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 3/29/22 20:01, Flyguy wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: >> On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: >>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, >>> bill....@ieee.org wrote: >>>> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire >>>> bomb my own country. >>>> >>>> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up >>>> with an accident report >>> >>> Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? >> You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. >>> You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from >>> AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has >>> experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES.
Which is better dropped onto that parched terrain, burning batteries or whole burning airplanes? Maybe you just want to ensure that the people onboard have no escape?
>> We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND!
So what? Is that the accident report you offered?
>>> Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, >>> but you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I >>> am not a certified, licensed pilot (false), >> Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are >> licensed. > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a > CERTIFICATE attesting to same.
References aren't so easy to find, but here are a couple: https://www.faa.gov/uas/commercial_operators/ https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/pilot_records_database/ Who is eligible to access the PRD? * The responsible person ... * The authorized user ... * The pilot — an individual certificated by the FAA at the Commercial, Airline Transport Pilot, or Remote Pilot level FAA web pages for the general public will sometimes use "license" to ease-in newcomers, as here: https://www.faa.gov/pilots/become/
On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 3:57:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > > > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my > > > > > >> own country. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with > > > > > >> an accident report > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > > > > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. > > > He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb. > > > > > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT > > > > > > onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced > > > > > > UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > > > > > > > > > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > > > > > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND! > > > Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody. > > > > > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but > > > > > > you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a > > > > > > certified, licensed pilot (false), > > > > > > > > > Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see. > > > > > > > > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed. > > > > > > > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same. > He's more likely to have been certified as a lunatic, but he wouldn't tell us about that. > > > > An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid, even though it clearly shouldn't be. > > > > Hey SLOMAN, YOU are the troll that makes "all kinds of claims". > > I'm sure that it makes you happy to claim that, but it doesn't happen to be true. > > I deal with FACTS. My certificate DOES have an issue date on it, and once it is issued it is valid unless it is revoked. > Flyguy likes to think that he deals with "facts" but he "deals" with the ones he doesn't like by ignoring them. > > > More lies by Sloman as he has NOTHING on which to base this lie. > > Not that Flyguy can be bothered to identify which observation he doesn't like. Flyguy's idiocy gets paraded here at regular intervals, but he doesn't seem to realise quite how obvious his idiocy is. > > > What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000. > > You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth. > > This is even more than commercial pilots which may list 20,000 hours or more because MOST of their "flying" is actually done by an autopilot - they are NOT flying AT ALL! > If you kept flying for long enough you could clock up that many hours. If I remember rightly, even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification.
Hey SNIPPERMAN, you just reeled off a whole SHIT LOAD of lies, but let's just deal with the last one: PROVE "even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification." And quote the SPECIFICATE regulation, you idiot.
> > > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto. > > > > Yeah, Sloman, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!! > > In your ever-so-expert and only moderately demented opinion. > > -- > SNIPPERMAN, Sydney
On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:16:38 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote:
> On 3/29/22 20:01, Flyguy wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > >> On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > >>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, > >>> bill....@ieee.org wrote: > >>>> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire > >>>> bomb my own country. > >>>> > >>>> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up > >>>> with an accident report > >>> > >>> Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > >> You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. > >>> You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from > >>> AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has > >>> experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > Which is better dropped onto that parched terrain, burning batteries or > whole burning airplanes? Maybe you just want to ensure that the people > onboard have no escape? > >> We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND! > So what? Is that the accident report you offered?
SO WHAT??? You didn't even get the right FUCKING COUNTRY, you FLAMING ASSHOLE!!!!!!
On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:16:02 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 3:57:53 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:40:05 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 2:01:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > > > > > > On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire bomb my > > > > > > >> own country. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up with > > > > > > >> an accident report > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Sloman, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > > > >> > > > > > > > You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. > > > > > > > > He did. He also seems to think that nobody would even think about dumping the batteries until after they had caught on fire, which is remarkably dumb. > > > > > > > > > You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > > > > > > > > > > > > We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > > > > > > > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND! > > > > > > > > Nothing I wrote was specific to any one country. Dumping over-heating batteries before they catch on fire - ideally early enough so that they are never going to catch on fire - is always a good idea, provided that you don't actually dump them onto somebody. > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I tried to educate your sorry ass in the rules of aviation, but you, being the brain-dead person you are, said things like I am not a certified, licensed pilot (false), > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I didn't, but his reading comprehension is specialised in seeing what he wants to see. > > > > > > > > > > Hardware is certified, Airmen are Certificated. Drivers are licensed. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, but the FAA CERTIFIES pilots and LICENSES them. I do have a CERTIFICATE attesting to same. > > > > He's more likely to have been certified as a lunatic, but he wouldn't tell us about that. > > > > > > An anonymous troll can make all kinds of claims. Perhaps the certificate has a date on it? Maybe it's even still valid, even though it clearly shouldn't be. > > > > > > Hey SLOMAN, YOU are the troll that makes "all kinds of claims". > > > > I'm sure that it makes you happy to claim that, but it doesn't happen to be true. > > > > > I deal with FACTS. My certificate DOES have an issue date on it, and once it is issued it is valid unless it is revoked. > > > > Flyguy likes to think that he deals with "facts" but he "deals" with the ones he doesn't like by ignoring them. > > > > > More lies by Sloman as he has NOTHING on which to base this lie. > > > > Not that Flyguy can be bothered to identify which observation he doesn't like. Flyguy's idiocy gets paraded here at regular intervals, but he doesn't seem to realise quite how obvious his idiocy is. > > > > > What Sloman DOESN'T know is that I have FAR MORE flight hours than your typical private pilot, at 5,000. > > > > You may assert this, but nobody knows whether you are telling the truth. > > > > > This is even more than commercial pilots which may list 20,000 hours or more because MOST of their "flying" is actually done by an autopilot - they are NOT flying AT ALL! > > > > If you kept flying for long enough you could clock up that many hours. If I remember rightly, even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification. > > > Hey Sloman, you just reeled off a whole SHIT LOAD of lies, but let's just deal with the last one: PROVE "even a private pilot in Australia has to clock up a minimum number of hours per year to maintain their certification." And quote the SPECIFICATE regulation, you idiot.
He probably meant the specific regulation, but why would I bother? When I was an undergraduate, one of my fellow students was studying engineering as part of a plan to be come a commercial pilot, and building up flying hours in his spare time. I'm just reporting what I remember of our conversations on the subject. He also kept a collection of newspaper clippings about private pilots who had ended up dead after flight accidents. There were quite a few of them. That was sixty years ago. Private pilots do seem to keep on crashing. His sister was an air hostess, and she once let me look into the cockpit of the plane that was flying me home to Tasmania on an end-of-term break. She seemed to think that I'd want to, and I was polite enough to act as if I did.
> > > > Putting an idiot in control of even a light aircraft endangers all the people he might crash it onto. > > > > > > Yeah, Sloman, you should NEVER consider becoming a pilot!!!!!! > > > > In your ever-so-expert and only moderately demented opinion.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:17:13 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:16:38 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > > On 3/29/22 20:01, Flyguy wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:53:18 AM UTC-7, corvid wrote: > > >> On 3/28/22 21:16, Flyguy wrote: > > >>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-7, > > >>> bill....@ieee.org wrote: > > >>>> Flyguy has this nasty habit of claiming that I want to fire > > >>>> bomb my own country. > > >>>> > > >>>> There was a thread about electric aircraft, and Flyguy came up > > >>>> with an accident report > > >>> > > >>> Hey SNIPPERMAN, how is what YOU said DIFFERENT from what I said? > > >> You said that wings have to be chopped off to drop batteries. > > >>> You think it is a good idea to drop BURNING BATTERIES from > > >>> AIRCRAFT onto very parched, record drought country that has > > >>> experienced UNPRECEDENTED WILDFIRES. > > Which is better dropped onto that parched terrain, burning batteries or > > whole burning airplanes? Maybe you just want to ensure that the people > > onboard have no escape? > > >> We saw pictures of the accident site. Green, grassy land. > > > > > > That accident, Einstein, was in NEW ZEALAND! > > So what? Is that the accident report you offered? > SO WHAT??? You didn't even get the right FUCKING COUNTRY, you FLAMING ASSHOLE!!!!!!
Flyguy of course thinks that the batteries have to be on fire before anybody would dump them. That's a rather more relevant error, but not one that he's gong to recognise. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On 3/30/22 22:43, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

> Flyguy of course thinks that the batteries have to be on fire before > anybody would dump them. That's a rather more relevant error, but > not one that he's gong to recognise.
That isn't what I get out of it. He recognizes that they shouldn't be dumped if they *are* on fire. The airplane must remain flying until the fire goes out.