On 1/4/22 2:09 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in > news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org: > >> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote: >>> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in >>> news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net: >>> >>>> Dean Hoffman wrote: >>>>> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional > types. >>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip- > blackberry >>>>> -phones-technology/> >>>>> There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her >>>>> mom's Blackberry down the toilet. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yup, I'm switching to a Linux phone this very day. :( >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Phil Hobbs >>>> >>> >>> Were Blackberry phones ever "smart"? I don't think so. They were >>> smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them. >>> >> >> Which ones did you have? >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs >> > > To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on them. > One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is newer > and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment cleanup. > I works fine and still has an active account, which makes me feel bad > that the tenant got evicted or whatever that they were not able to > get their possessions. There were pills and all kinds of stuff in > there. 4 phones total. >The predictive swipe-text input is so much faster than any other method on a smartphone once you get the hang of it, for most day-to-day use outside of trying to write about electronics on a mobile device. The kids these days don't sit there doing the two-thumb tap tango like granpa!
Blackberry Smart Phones Shut Down
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Reply by ●January 5, 20222022-01-05
In article <Fb1BJ.72147$xe2.27000@fx16.iad>, user@example.net says...> > An unusual lady, though unfortunately our short relationship was notto> last. In hindsight I felt like she may have kept a business-oriented > device for the "business" of conferring with her many suitors.A suite of suitors, I guess...
Reply by ●January 6, 20222022-01-06
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:gO4BJ.187529$Wkjc.72993@fx35.iad:> On 1/4/22 2:09 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote: >> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in >> news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org: >> >>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote: >>>> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in >>>> news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net: >>>> >>>>> Dean Hoffman wrote: >>>>>> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional >> types. >>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip- >> blackberry >>>>>> -phones-technology/> >>>>>> There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush >>>>>> her mom's Blackberry down the toilet. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yup, I'm switching to a Linux phone this very day. :( >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>>> >>>> >>>> Were Blackberry phones ever "smart"? I don't think so. They >>>> were smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them. >>>> >>> >>> Which ones did you have? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >>> >> >> To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on >> them. >> One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is >> newer and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment >> cleanup. I works fine and still has an active account, which >> makes me feel bad that the tenant got evicted or whatever that >> they were not able to get their possessions. There were pills >> and all kinds of stuff in there. 4 phones total. >> > > The predictive swipe-text input is so much faster than any other > method on a smartphone once you get the hang of it, for most > day-to-day use outside of trying to write about electronics on a > mobile device. The kids these days don't sit there doing the > two-thumb tap tango like granpa! >Them spending so much time texting on a phone to the point that they get good at that crap are wasting way too much of their time. I am busy getting shit done. I got no time for texting and when I do it is concise full words not concatenated fool words. I prefer just talking hands free as I continue to get whatever I was doing done. It has wasted hundreds of thousand of hours in the workplace. One place I worked did not allow them in many labs and some labs you could not even have a pencil or so much as a toothpick and there were white noise generators above the doors to keep folks from hearing lab conversations. Hell, there were labs I was not even allowed in at that time.
Reply by ●January 6, 20222022-01-06
bitrex wrote:> On 1/4/22 2:09 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote: >> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in >> news:sr24a7$1d4q$1@gioia.aioe.org: >> >>> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote: >>>> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in >>>> news:f3b100c6-b8e0-8755-c99b-f94fc789b1a2@electrooptical.net: >>>> >>>>> Dean Hoffman wrote: >>>>>> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional >> types. >>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip- >> blackberry >>>>>> -phones-technology/> >>>>>> There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her >>>>>> mom's Blackberry down the toilet. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yup, I'm switching to a Linux phone this very day. :( >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hobbs >>>>> >>>> >>>> Were Blackberry phones ever "smart"? I don't think so. They were >>>> smart wannabes. Hell an HP PID beat them. >>>> >>> >>> Which ones did you have? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >>> >> >> To me, all I had was the phones with the keyboard still on them. >> One I had and used in VA about 6 years ago, and the other is newer >> and I found it in the dumpster after a vacated apartment cleanup. >> I works fine and still has an active account, which makes me feel bad >> that the tenant got evicted or whatever that they were not able to >> get their possessions. There were pills and all kinds of stuff in >> there. 4 phones total. >> > > The predictive swipe-text input is so much faster than any other method > on a smartphone once you get the hang of it, for most day-to-day use > outside of trying to write about electronics on a mobile device. The > kids these days don't sit there doing the two-thumb tap tango like granpa!Now that you're in your forties, I notice you whistling much louder when walking past the graveyard. ;) Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by ●January 6, 20222022-01-06
On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote:> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types. > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/> > There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom's Blackberry down the toilet.A salutatory warning for all those who've bought "smart" technology that relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn it off without being sued. In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won't be long for this world. Sylvia.
Reply by ●January 7, 20222022-01-07
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:>On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote: >> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types. >> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/> >> There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom's Blackberry down the toilet. > >A salutatory warning for all those who've bought "smart" technology that >relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long >as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn >it off without being sued. > >In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won't be long >for this world. > >Sylvia.Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a 'free' or 'perpetual' license now and then. -- Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
Reply by ●January 7, 20222022-01-07
Spehro Pefhany wrote:> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> > wrote: > >> On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote: >>> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types. >>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/> >>> There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom's Blackberry down the toilet. >> >> A salutatory warning for all those who've bought "smart" technology that >> relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long >> as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn >> it off without being sued. >> >> In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won't be long >> for this world. >> >> Sylvia. > > Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a 'free' or > 'perpetual' license now and then. > >Nah, the BB still works fine as a wifi-connected pocket computer. It's just the phone stuff and the app store that went away. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
Reply by ●January 7, 20222022-01-07
On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:36:34 -0500, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>Spehro Pefhany wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote: >>>> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types. >>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/> >>>> There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom's Blackberry down the toilet. >>> >>> A salutatory warning for all those who've bought "smart" technology that >>> relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long >>> as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn >>> it off without being sued. >>> >>> In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won't be long >>> for this world. >>> >>> Sylvia. >> >> Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a 'free' or >> 'perpetual' license now and then. >> >> > >Nah, the BB still works fine as a wifi-connected pocket computer. It's >just the phone stuff and the app store that went away. > >Cheers > >Phil HobbsI'm not talking about BB specifically, rather about licensed commercial EDA software and CAD software that phones home. Or the license manager software which you have to install phones home. If you can live with all open source or have hardware dongles it's not an issue. -- Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
Reply by ●January 7, 20222022-01-07
Spehro Pefhany wrote:> On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 13:36:34 -0500, Phil Hobbs > <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > >> Spehro Pefhany wrote: >>> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 15:55:37 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 04-Jan-22 11:02 pm, Dean Hoffman wrote: >>>>> This might be a trip down memory lane for you professional types. >>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/01/03/rip-blackberry-phones-technology/> >>>>> There's a mention about a 4 year old who tried to flush her mom's Blackberry down the toilet. >>>> >>>> A salutatory warning for all those who've bought "smart" technology that >>>> relies on a central server. The central server will only exist as long >>>> as it either provides value to the owner, or they think they cannot turn >>>> it off without being sued. >>>> >>>> In particular, if the supplier goes bankrupt, the server won't be long >>>> for this world. >>>> >>>> Sylvia. >>> >>> Yes and that likely includes software that just checks for a 'free' or >>> 'perpetual' license now and then. >>> >>> >> >> Nah, the BB still works fine as a wifi-connected pocket computer. It's >> just the phone stuff and the app store that went away. >> >> Cheers >> >> Phil Hobbs > > I'm not talking about BB specifically, rather about licensed > commercial EDA software and CAD software that phones home. Or the > license manager software which you have to install phones home.Yup. Ugly. I've never uses SAAS apps.> > If you can live with all open source or have hardware dongles it's not > an issue. >Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com
