OT: Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to shoplifting

On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 9:43:32 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 10/16/2021 9:02 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote: 
> > On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 12:45:42 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote: 
> >> On 10/15/2021 4:37 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote: 
> >>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote: 
> >>>> The cannibal left wins again! 
> >>> 
> >>> They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert. 
> >>> 
> >> I watched several videos of the "organized shoplifting" I never saw more 
> >> than one guy at a time, and the total wholesale value of the goods was 
> >> probably like $500. Big boxes of Advil containers, who in their right 
> >> mind buys Advil at Walgreens anyway the markups there are nuts. 
> >> 
> >> Other than maybe a couple OTC meds outside the pharmacy there's almost 
> >> nothing there with any significant street value, 50 cent USB cables 
> >> marked up to $14.99 and tons of other cheap Chinese shit. Even the 
> >> security guards just standing around didn't give a damn enough to do 
> >> anything, nobody's tackling anyone to the ground over that cheap crap 
> >> and risking even a sprained ankle, who cares let the insurance company 
> >> write them a check for $500. They know they can get away with it because 
> >> the "security" doesn't even care, that's how worthless the stuff is 
> > 
> > https://www.retailwire.com/discussion/organized-theft-is-turning-san-francisco-into-retails-wild-west/ 
> >
> "Criminal activities at retail cost retailers an average of nearly 
> $720,000 for every $1 billion in sales, according to NRF." 
> 
> I saw elsewhere on CNN that these hoodlums purportedly stole "$8 
> million" worth of product from Walgreens and CVS this year, given that 
> the lying media didn't specify whether this was the retail value or the 
> wholesale value I have to assume it was the retail value. $28 
> family-size bottles of Advil are not worth $28 on the street or even 
> $14, it's not like stealing Rolexes. At the markup that crap goes for it 
> was MAYBE $80,000 worth of product, oh my God. 

When they say "in sales," that obviously means the retial sale price.

> 
> Also said that SF spends 35 times the average on store security all the 
> security guards I saw didn't do shit! They stood around beating off, 
> what a bunch of lazy rent-a-cops. Great "deterrent", money well spent. 

Those guards have orders to not intervene.

> 
> Walgreens corp is bleeding out cash they need an excuse to close some 
> under-performing stores in high-rent areas, need to come up with a 
> reason, everyone knows telling wealthy white libs in SF "Honestly it's 
> for your own safety, these hoodlums are going to come in here and kill 
> your kids and put many disabled inter-sectional feminist software 
> engineers from Google at risk, we have no choice" works as good as 
> anywhere.

As usual, the worst operations are rolling in dough. Walgreens has plent of money, and recently announced a major expansion into providing primary care services on sight.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/14/walgreens-buys-majority-stake-in-primary-care-company-villagemd.html

That crummy handful of stores in marginal crap area of SF mean nothing to them.

On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 10:22:54 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 10/16/2021 9:43 AM, bitrex wrote: 
> > On 10/16/2021 9:02 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote: 
> >> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 12:45:42 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote: 
> >>> On 10/15/2021 4:37 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote: 
> >>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote: 
> >>>>> The cannibal left wins again! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're 
> >>>> talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store 
> >>>> with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem 
> >>>> with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. 
> >>>> Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll 
> >>>> be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert. 
> >>>> 
> >>> I watched several videos of the "organized shoplifting" I never saw more 
> >>> than one guy at a time, and the total wholesale value of the goods was 
> >>> probably like $500. Big boxes of Advil containers, who in their right 
> >>> mind buys Advil at Walgreens anyway the markups there are nuts. 
> >>> 
> >>> Other than maybe a couple OTC meds outside the pharmacy there's almost 
> >>> nothing there with any significant street value, 50 cent USB cables 
> >>> marked up to $14.99 and tons of other cheap Chinese shit. Even the 
> >>> security guards just standing around didn't give a damn enough to do 
> >>> anything, nobody's tackling anyone to the ground over that cheap crap 
> >>> and risking even a sprained ankle, who cares let the insurance company 
> >>> write them a check for $500. They know they can get away with it because 
> >>> the "security" doesn't even care, that's how worthless the stuff is 
> >> 
> >> https://www.retailwire.com/discussion/organized-theft-is-turning-san-francisco-into-retails-wild-west/ 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > "Criminal activities at retail cost retailers an average of nearly 
> > $720,000 for every $1 billion in sales, according to NRF." 
> > 
> > I saw elsewhere on CNN that these hoodlums purportedly stole "$8 
> > million" worth of product from Walgreens and CVS this year, given that 
> > the lying media didn't specify whether this was the retail value or the 
> > wholesale value I have to assume it was the retail value. $28 
> > family-size bottles of Advil are not worth $28 on the street or even 
> > $14, it's not like stealing Rolexes. At the markup that crap goes for it 
> > was MAYBE $80,000 worth of product, oh my God. 
> > 
> > Also said that SF spends 35 times the average on store security all the 
> > security guards I saw didn't do shit! They stood around beating off, 
> > what a bunch of lazy rent-a-cops. Great "deterrent", money well spent.
> One of them was a TSA agent, they're only good for looking up 
> law-abiding citizen's assholes. When they see a real crime they make a 
> TikTok video.

TSA is a not a standard of excellence in hiring.

On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 10/16/2021 9:26 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote: 
> > On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote: 
> >> On 10/15/2021 4:37 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote: 
> >>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote: 
> >>>> The cannibal left wins again! 
> >>> 
> >>> They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert. 
> >>> 
> >> San Francisco recently sold all its public housing to private 
> >> real-estate firms under the "Rental Assistance Demonstration" program, 
> >> there won't be many welfare recipients in town much longer. Trump was 
> >> one of the biggest supporters of expanding the program so you can guess 
> >> about how effective it'll be to providing any housing to the destitute 
> >> regularly 
> > 
> > Sounds like something you heard on Fox news. The program is nothing like you describe: 
> > https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/20/how-san-francisco-turned-its-tenements-into-treasures-215391/ 
> >
> Yes the article is very up-beat about it all, there are other opinions 
> on the matter regarding other places it's been implemented like areas of 
> Brooklyn that claim in practice having a myriad of private finance 
> companies managing different low-income properties all with their own 
> standards and practices is a bureaucratic nightmare at least equal in 
> scale to letting the government manage them directly, and finally of 
> dubious "savings" to the taxpayer. 
> 
> "RAD allows cities to voluntarily transfer their public housing to 
> private operators. The idea is that private managers possess the basic 
> competence at operating housing that city governments all too often 
> lack. The idea makes sense: Operating housing is literally what these 
> companies do, unlike city governments, which have myriad responsibilities." 
> 
> Sounds like the same rationale as to why Donald Trump would make a great 
> president. Private operators have experience running a for-profit model 
> of retail housing, there is no viable for-profit model for low-income 
> housing in cities like SF, the management of these firms will forever be 
> wringing their hands about their "under-performing properties in high 
> market-value areas" and trying to find ways to hoodwink the local 
> government into flipping them into just-regular luxury apartments, no 
> matter what some contractual obligation they may have signed with the 
> city said, same old hustle.

The only certainty is that government can't manage anything. It took the morons 80 years to figure that out, but better late than never.

Personally don't give a damn about municipal  government. Every major city in U.S. is transforming into a Port-au-Prince. They are in fact genetically predisposed to live like that:
https://apnews.com/article/haiti-port-au-prince-texas-border-immigration-5cc131fe86e3b5953df0ae70d1f9913d

On 10/16/2021 10:30 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 9:43:32 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>> On 10/16/2021 9:02 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>>> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 12:45:42 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2021 4:37 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
>>>>>> The cannibal left wins again!
>>>>>
>>>>> They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert.
>>>>>
>>>> I watched several videos of the "organized shoplifting" I never saw more
>>>> than one guy at a time, and the total wholesale value of the goods was
>>>> probably like $500. Big boxes of Advil containers, who in their right
>>>> mind buys Advil at Walgreens anyway the markups there are nuts.
>>>>
>>>> Other than maybe a couple OTC meds outside the pharmacy there's almost
>>>> nothing there with any significant street value, 50 cent USB cables
>>>> marked up to $14.99 and tons of other cheap Chinese shit. Even the
>>>> security guards just standing around didn't give a damn enough to do
>>>> anything, nobody's tackling anyone to the ground over that cheap crap
>>>> and risking even a sprained ankle, who cares let the insurance company
>>>> write them a check for $500. They know they can get away with it because
>>>> the "security" doesn't even care, that's how worthless the stuff is
>>>
>>> https://www.retailwire.com/discussion/organized-theft-is-turning-san-francisco-into-retails-wild-west/
>>>
>> "Criminal activities at retail cost retailers an average of nearly
>> $720,000 for every $1 billion in sales, according to NRF."
>>
>> I saw elsewhere on CNN that these hoodlums purportedly stole "$8
>> million" worth of product from Walgreens and CVS this year, given that
>> the lying media didn't specify whether this was the retail value or the
>> wholesale value I have to assume it was the retail value. $28
>> family-size bottles of Advil are not worth $28 on the street or even
>> $14, it's not like stealing Rolexes. At the markup that crap goes for it
>> was MAYBE $80,000 worth of product, oh my God.
> 
> When they say "in sales," that obviously means the retial sale price.

Don't even say that it says "$8 million in stolen merchandise":

<https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/us/san-francisco-shoplifting-walgreens/index.html>

Retail price, bogus numbers. Just getting the insurance payout for a 
wall of that stuff was probably the store's best "sales" day for that 
section in months. Yeah I expect seniors and the disabled have been 
scared to go in those stores, scared by the prices mostly. Well the five 
significantly disabled people on a fixed-income living in an area with 2 
million median home sale price, anyway.

>>
>> Also said that SF spends 35 times the average on store security all the
>> security guards I saw didn't do shit! They stood around beating off,
>> what a bunch of lazy rent-a-cops. Great "deterrent", money well spent.
> 
> Those guards have orders to not intervene.

Yes their job is to stand around and look tough and inspect assholes, 
money well-spent.

>>
>> Walgreens corp is bleeding out cash they need an excuse to close some
>> under-performing stores in high-rent areas, need to come up with a
>> reason, everyone knows telling wealthy white libs in SF "Honestly it's
>> for your own safety, these hoodlums are going to come in here and kill
>> your kids and put many disabled inter-sectional feminist software
>> engineers from Google at risk, we have no choice" works as good as
>> anywhere.
> 
> As usual, the worst operations are rolling in dough. Walgreens has plent of money, and recently announced a major expansion into providing primary care services on sight.
> 
> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/14/walgreens-buys-majority-stake-in-primary-care-company-villagemd.html
> 
> That crummy handful of stores in marginal crap area of SF mean nothing to them.
> 

Most SF residents can get their meds delivered by some app no prob and a 
lot seem to prefer staying locked down anyway, they likely won't notice 
too much.

On 10/16/2021 10:44 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 9:53:35 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>> On 10/16/2021 9:26 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
>>>> On 10/15/2021 4:37 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
>>>>>> The cannibal left wins again!
>>>>>
>>>>> They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert.
>>>>>
>>>> San Francisco recently sold all its public housing to private
>>>> real-estate firms under the "Rental Assistance Demonstration" program,
>>>> there won't be many welfare recipients in town much longer. Trump was
>>>> one of the biggest supporters of expanding the program so you can guess
>>>> about how effective it'll be to providing any housing to the destitute
>>>> regularly
>>>
>>> Sounds like something you heard on Fox news. The program is nothing like you describe:
>>> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/20/how-san-francisco-turned-its-tenements-into-treasures-215391/
>>>
>> Yes the article is very up-beat about it all, there are other opinions
>> on the matter regarding other places it's been implemented like areas of
>> Brooklyn that claim in practice having a myriad of private finance
>> companies managing different low-income properties all with their own
>> standards and practices is a bureaucratic nightmare at least equal in
>> scale to letting the government manage them directly, and finally of
>> dubious "savings" to the taxpayer.
>>
>> "RAD allows cities to voluntarily transfer their public housing to
>> private operators. The idea is that private managers possess the basic
>> competence at operating housing that city governments all too often
>> lack. The idea makes sense: Operating housing is literally what these
>> companies do, unlike city governments, which have myriad responsibilities."
>>
>> Sounds like the same rationale as to why Donald Trump would make a great
>> president. Private operators have experience running a for-profit model
>> of retail housing, there is no viable for-profit model for low-income
>> housing in cities like SF, the management of these firms will forever be
>> wringing their hands about their "under-performing properties in high
>> market-value areas" and trying to find ways to hoodwink the local
>> government into flipping them into just-regular luxury apartments, no
>> matter what some contractual obligation they may have signed with the
>> city said, same old hustle.
> 
> The only certainty is that government can't manage anything. It took the morons 80 years to figure that out, but better late than never.
> 
> Personally don't give a damn about municipal  government. Every major city in U.S. is transforming into a Port-au-Prince. They are in fact genetically predisposed to live like that:
> https://apnews.com/article/haiti-port-au-prince-texas-border-immigration-5cc131fe86e3b5953df0ae70d1f9913d
> 

Black people for the most part don't live in the "inner city" anymore, 
didn't you hear? The inner city of Providence RI is majority Hispanic 
and white as the runner-up, with the city as a whole still a white 
majority. Far more likely to be shot by a Dominican dirt-bike gang or 
run over by some dickhead in a Tesla or Maserati than jumped by a black 
guy, even in the sections of town that are thugged-out.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:37:17 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
>> The cannibal left wins again!
>
>They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert.

It's not just SF; it's the same in lots of big cities.

People are lamenting "food deserts" and lack of pharmacies in poor
neighborhoods, and blame greedy chain stores.

Our DA won't prosecute "minor crimes".  Or "low level drug dealers"
aka mass murderers.



-- 

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; 
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.



  

In article <QNsaJ.1402$1E49.891@fx01.iad>, user@example.net says...
> 
> Other than maybe a couple OTC meds outside the pharmacy there's almost 
> nothing there with any significant street value, 50 cent USB cables 
> marked up to $14.99 and tons of other cheap Chinese shit. Even the 
> security guards just standing around didn't give a damn enough to do 
> anything, nobody's tackling anyone to the ground over that cheap crap 
> and risking even a sprained ankle, who cares let the insurance company 
> write them a check for $500. They know they can get away with it because 
> the "security" doesn't even care, that's how worthless the stuff is
> 
> 

It is not the security does not care, but no use for them to hold anyone 
and wait on the police.  They have been told that anything under $ 1000 
would not be brought to  the court system.

On 10/16/2021 11:28 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <QNsaJ.1402$1E49.891@fx01.iad>, user@example.net says...
>>
>> Other than maybe a couple OTC meds outside the pharmacy there's almost
>> nothing there with any significant street value, 50 cent USB cables
>> marked up to $14.99 and tons of other cheap Chinese shit. Even the
>> security guards just standing around didn't give a damn enough to do
>> anything, nobody's tackling anyone to the ground over that cheap crap
>> and risking even a sprained ankle, who cares let the insurance company
>> write them a check for $500. They know they can get away with it because
>> the "security" doesn't even care, that's how worthless the stuff is
>>
>>
> 
> It is not the security does not care, but no use for them to hold anyone
> and wait on the police.  They have been told that anything under $ 1000
> would not be brought to  the court system.
> 

Stealing and hoarding big boxes of OTC Advil seems more like mental 
illness/crackhead behavior than "organized shoplifting." The street 
value of this stuff is next to nil.

On 10/16/2021 11:25 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:37:17 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
>>> The cannibal left wins again!
>>
>> They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert.
> 
> It's not just SF; it's the same in lots of big cities.
> 
> People are lamenting "food deserts" and lack of pharmacies in poor
> neighborhoods, and blame greedy chain stores.
> 
> Our DA won't prosecute "minor crimes".  Or "low level drug dealers"
> aka mass murderers.

Prosecuting "low level drug dealers" is mostly a waste of time there's 
always another to replace him where he came from.

If every "low level drug dealer" in the primarily white high school I 
went to was prosecuted for what was considered a crime at the time half 
the school would have been doing time. But even before weed got 
decriminalized the local police didn't much bother with it, particularly 
when the Mom of the kid who's selling is on the school board...we can't 
ruin his chances to get into MIT, he's too good a kid...

On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 11:41:43 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 10/16/2021 11:25 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:37:17 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:50:20 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
>>>> The cannibal left wins again!
>>>
>>> They're not talking about ordinary petty shoplifting. They're talking about organized shoplifting where they come in the store with carts and trash bags and just clean the place out. The problem with San Francisco is they let these people walk without jail time. Heck, they probably up their monthly welfare benefits. Soon they'll be complaining about the city being a pharmacy desert.
>> 
>> It's not just SF; it's the same in lots of big cities.
>> 
>> People are lamenting "food deserts" and lack of pharmacies in poor
>> neighborhoods, and blame greedy chain stores.
>> 
>> Our DA won't prosecute "minor crimes".  Or "low level drug dealers"
>> aka mass murderers.
>
>Prosecuting "low level drug dealers" is mostly a waste of time there's 
>always another to replace him where he came from.

Drugs are being sold in plain sight. Arrest the sellers and track down
their supply chains.

Twice as many people have died here from fentanyl OD as from covid. Sf
is a homeless and druggie mecca because the power structure wants it
to be. Fortunately not in our village, and we avoid the places that
are.

>
>If every "low level drug dealer" in the primarily white high school I 
>went to was prosecuted for what was considered a crime at the time half 
>the school would have been doing time. 

No. The dealers would stop if they knew they would be arrested and
wait in jail for a few months until trial.



But even before weed got 
>decriminalized the local police didn't much bother with it, particularly 
>when the Mom of the kid who's selling is on the school board...we can't 
>ruin his chances to get into MIT, he's too good a kid...
>

Weed isn't deadly like meth laced with fentanyl. The dealers are
murderers.



-- 

Father Brown's figure remained quite dark and still; 
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.