Motion in support or reject EV charging chip reader?

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 9:42:04 AM UTC-7, Rob wrote:
> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 6:00:16 AM UTC-7, Rob wrote: 
> >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> > We are not talking about same price for all station, but the same payment method (chip reader for credit/debit card). 
> >> That is clear, but what I want to note that we do not have the same 
> >> price for all clients. The price depends on your contract, your usage, 
> >> the time of day, etc and it can only be calculated when all your charges 
> >> in a particular billing period are known. 
> > 
> > That might be true for your corner of the world, but not in other in general and not at all in the USA in particular. We have NOT a single charging company in California billing on contract usage rate. When i drove my Leaf pass Oregon, i paid a fixed $20 a month for all the DCFC on the West Coast Electric Highway (of Oregon only). I believe they are currently free (wavier for limited time?) as well. So, at least for the two states (CA, OR), we are not billed on contract usage. Every single charging station bill on fixed price
> You will not find those here...

Fine.  You stay with custom cards and we stay with standard chip cards.  I am not planning to drive to your country anyway.

> >> > I find it hard to follow your reasoning that price cannot be determined at the end of charging session, but you elecricty usage elsewhere. 
> >> Can you calculate what a particular phone call has cost you after you have made it? Probably not. 
> > 
> > Why bother? I pay fixed monthly cost.
> So when you have a contract for car charging at fixed monthly cost, 
> would you still want to pay with credit card after charging? 

Of course not.  Anyway, we have NO changing company offering fixed monthly cost in California.  The $20 cover exactly one trip in Oregon.  I am not familiar with other states.  Except for Washington (with enough L2), i am restricted to drive to any other states.  I can still reach Reno and Las Vegas, but not going across Nevada.

> Also, your fixed monthly cost probably does not cover ALL possible 
> calls you can make. So when you make an unusual call (e.g. via INMARSAT), 
> what is it going to cost? Do you know?

No.  if i have to make unusual call, i would probably use another phone or some other option.  Same for driving, if i have to get out of CA, i would probably rent a GV (Gasoline Vehicle).