On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote:> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > which you pour money into... > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol.I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars. -- Rick C. + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
pretty OT: boats
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Reply by ●September 10, 20202020-09-10
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 6:05:58 PM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:> onsdag den 9. september 2020 kl. 23.55.36 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin: > > On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 11:49:53 -0700, Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net> > > wrote: > > > > >On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > >> > > >> Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > >> driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > >> > > >> I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > >> $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > >> freak will hang three on the stern. > > >> > > >> I can envision some domestic discord. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > >which you pour money into... > > > > "Why buy a sailboat when you can throw your money directly into the > > water?" > > in many places having a sailboat has the bonus that you'll be wet and > cold while doing itAround here, that's a clear plus in the summer. Most of us on the cove have spent entire afternoons up to our necks in the lake. -- Rick C. -- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging -- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:59:25 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:> On 2020-09-10 11:21, George Herold wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: > >> Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > >> driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > >> > >> I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > >> $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > >> freak will hang three on the stern. > >> > >> I can envision some domestic discord. > > My brother bought a used 15' motor boat for ~$2.5k > > Used for fishing andd beer drinking with the boys. > > (no girls allowed. :^) > > > Yeah, with a fibreglass boat you can keep it looking nice for decades. > My Hobie 16 was 20 years old when I bought it for $1200 and 29 when I > sold it on eBay for $1k. (I did buy a swoopy new trailer for $750 and a > new trampoline for $150, so my TCO was about $120 per year not counting > boatyard space.)I'm from a family of planing dinghy sailors, but I once cartwheeled a Hobie-16 in the Gulf of Mexico. :) We were screaming along on in a lively breeze, heeled dangerously hard, 155# sea salt me in trapeze and 200# noob owner on the trampoline astern at the helm. I 'bout lost my vocal chords 'requesting' he slack off the main or luff up a bit, when a wee bitty puff heeled us a mite harder, we buried the lee bow, the boat stopped instantaneously, and the wire catapulted me skyward...jolly good fun! It looked a bit like this: https://southern-born-and-bred.blogspot.com/2011/06/wipeout-crew-sent-flying-as-new.html Righting the beast in the blow and chop was a bear and we had to do it over and over, as we'd no sooner get righted than knocked down again (it took the skipper several tries to grok pointing into the weather long enough for us to re-board). (Also, there was that first delay during the time I needed to stop laughing hysterically, then convince the first-outing skipper that we weren't actually going to die.) In the end we got the boat up and had a great deal more fun that day before sailing in, sunburned and smiling. Good times! Cheers, James Arthur
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On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote:> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > > which you pour money into... > > > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol. > I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. > > I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars.It's a status of labor camp manufacturing. Although they are not directly from concentration camps, the infrastructures are supported by camp victims. That goes for Apple too. I am proud owner of non-Apple and non-Tesla products.
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On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:03:18 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote:> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > > > which you pour money into... > > > > > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol. > > I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. > > > > I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars. > > It's a status of labor camp manufacturing. Although they are not directly from concentration camps, the infrastructures are supported by camp victims. That goes for Apple too. I am proud owner of non-Apple and non-Tesla products.Do you drive cars that aren't made in labor camps as virtue signalling? Got it! -- Rick C. -+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging -+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote:> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:03:18 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > > > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > > > > which you pour money into... > > > > > > > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol. > > > I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. > > > > > > I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars. > > > > It's a status of labor camp manufacturing. Although they are not directly from concentration camps, the infrastructures are supported by camp victims. That goes for Apple too. I am proud owner of non-Apple and non-Tesla products. > Do you drive cars that aren't made in labor camps as virtue signalling?Do my best to avoid them if possible, but when it's out of my control, i have no choice.
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On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:02:30 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote:> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:03:18 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > > > > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > > > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > > > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > > > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > > > > > which you pour money into... > > > > > > > > > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol. > > > > I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. > > > > > > > > I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars. > > > > > > It's a status of labor camp manufacturing. Although they are not directly from concentration camps, the infrastructures are supported by camp victims. That goes for Apple too. I am proud owner of non-Apple and non-Tesla products. > > Do you drive cars that aren't made in labor camps as virtue signalling? > > Do my best to avoid them if possible, but when it's out of my control, i have no choice.So what cars are not made the same way as all others? I think you are complaining about Teslas when all the others are the same. I expect the Apple devices are produced pretty much the same way as other phones. The one difference is that the Apple phones are made so compact that it requires more manual labor since machines can't do the same jobs. So more people can be paid the relatively higher wages this type of assembly brings compared to many other jobs in those areas. What exactly are you complaining about with Teslas??? They make most of them in Fremont, CA. Are you saying the Fremont factory is a slave labor camp? -- Rick C. +- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging +- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:09:38 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote:> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:02:30 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:03:18 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > > > > > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > > > > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > > > > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > > > > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > > > > > > which you pour money into... > > > > > > > > > > > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol. > > > > > I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. > > > > > > > > > > I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars. > > > > > > > > It's a status of labor camp manufacturing. Although they are not directly from concentration camps, the infrastructures are supported by camp victims. That goes for Apple too. I am proud owner of non-Apple and non-Tesla products. > > > Do you drive cars that aren't made in labor camps as virtue signalling? > > > > Do my best to avoid them if possible, but when it's out of my control, i have no choice. > So what cars are not made the same way as all others? I think you are complaining about Teslas when all the others are the same. I expect the Apple devices are produced pretty much the same way as other phones. The one difference is that the Apple phones are made so compact that it requires more manual labor since machines can't do the same jobs. So more people can be paid the relatively higher wages this type of assembly brings compared to many other jobs in those areas.Apple earns major part of their profit from China.> > What exactly are you complaining about with Teslas??? They make most of them in Fremont, CA. Are you saying the Fremont factory is a slave labor camp?Tesla is ramping up productions in China. Both companies have no plan of slowing down in China.
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On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:15:26 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote:> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:09:38 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:02:30 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:03:18 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > > > > > > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > > > > > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > > > > > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > > > > > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > > > > > > > which you pour money into... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol. > > > > > > I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars. > > > > > > > > > > It's a status of labor camp manufacturing. Although they are not directly from concentration camps, the infrastructures are supported by camp victims. That goes for Apple too. I am proud owner of non-Apple and non-Tesla products. > > > > Do you drive cars that aren't made in labor camps as virtue signalling? > > > > > > Do my best to avoid them if possible, but when it's out of my control, i have no choice. > > So what cars are not made the same way as all others? I think you are complaining about Teslas when all the others are the same. I expect the Apple devices are produced pretty much the same way as other phones. The one difference is that the Apple phones are made so compact that it requires more manual labor since machines can't do the same jobs. So more people can be paid the relatively higher wages this type of assembly brings compared to many other jobs in those areas. > > Apple earns major part of their profit from China. > > > > > What exactly are you complaining about with Teslas??? They make most of them in Fremont, CA. Are you saying the Fremont factory is a slave labor camp? > > Tesla is ramping up productions in China. > > Both companies have no plan of slowing down in China.So the problem is we should not build anything in China? Tesla is ramping up production everywhere they build cars which is in the US and China presently and soon to be in Germany. So when they start making cars in Germany will you talk about the concentration camps there too? That's some bad juju. The fact that after three opportunities to explain yourself you have totally failed to provide any substantial evidence of anything wrong I think we can easily see where the problem is. Short between the headphones. -- Rick C. ++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging ++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote:> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:15:26 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:09:38 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 5:02:30 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > > > On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 2:03:18 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-7, Ricketty C wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 2:58:09 PM UTC-4, Edward Lee wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in > > > > > > > > > > driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs > > > > > > > > > > $1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed > > > > > > > > > > freak will hang three on the stern. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can envision some domestic discord. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You do know that the classic definition of "boat" is a hole in the water > > > > > > > > > which you pour money into... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol. > > > > > > > I only wish Tesla would make a boat. That would be awesome to be able to break 50 on the water with hardly a sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's funny that you think Teslas are status symbols. I guess they are... to you. Most people who drive them just think they are nice cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a status of labor camp manufacturing. Although they are not directly from concentration camps, the infrastructures are supported by camp victims. That goes for Apple too. I am proud owner of non-Apple and non-Tesla products. > > > > > Do you drive cars that aren't made in labor camps as virtue signalling? > > > > > > > > Do my best to avoid them if possible, but when it's out of my control, i have no choice. > > > So what cars are not made the same way as all others? I think you are complaining about Teslas when all the others are the same. I expect the Apple devices are produced pretty much the same way as other phones. The one difference is that the Apple phones are made so compact that it requires more manual labor since machines can't do the same jobs. So more people can be paid the relatively higher wages this type of assembly brings compared to many other jobs in those areas. > > > > Apple earns major part of their profit from China. > > > > > > > > What exactly are you complaining about with Teslas??? They make most of them in Fremont, CA. Are you saying the Fremont factory is a slave labor camp? > > > > Tesla is ramping up productions in China. > > > > Both companies have no plan of slowing down in China. > So the problem is we should not build anything in China?Yes.> Tesla is ramping up production everywhere they build cars which is in the US and China presently and soon to be in Germany. So when they start making cars in Germany will you talk about the concentration camps there too? That's some bad juju.No, there are no more concentration camps in Germany.> The fact that after three opportunities to explain yourself you have totally failed to provide any substantial evidence of anything wrong I think we can easily see where the problem is. Short between the headphones.I keep explaining to you that there are forced labor camps, rape and torture camps, human organ farms in China. There are probably in some other countries, but not in Japan and Germany currently.
