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Started by Unknown June 19, 2020
On 6/20/2020 9:38 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:11:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin > <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in > <bfdqefdtnvejm3uva4v8hrgpkjtd495a02@4ax.com>: > >> >> R has studied DT a lot more than I have. He is a thinker. Both of them >> I guess. >> >> All successful companies have a few Big Thinkers. > > I think it is spelled 'sinker'? > What is left of his followers after they discover most of his brain has switched off because of the > 'medicine' he takes, will probably die of corona due to keeping no distance at all in his campaign. > Nature has its ways and laws. >
Yes, America is full of fine Christian "big thinkers" who can hardly say enough nice things about each other. /eyeroll
On a sunny day (Sat, 20 Jun 2020 07:52:04 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<eq7sefdn51ks4m05sphfh6puuiusuonu66@4ax.com>:

>People have always come to the US for a fresh beginning and a chance >to do what they can without being dragged down by old establishments. >The native Americans were the first.
First to get murdered?
>For some reason, Canada and Australia and Brazil didn't get that >scientific and invention immigration. I guess there is enough positive >feedback that one technology center prospers around a nucleus, like >MIT and then Stanford.
I sort of reduced my view of MIT after they came with that new wireless charging system was discussed here long ago, sold to Bo[e]ing I think it violated all EMI rules.
>The selective migration to the US - the most adventurous, most >irrelevant, most unmanageable, most creative, sometimes most criminal >- people emigrated here. That created what we are, for better or >worse. And to some extent it brain-drained the rest of the world of >creative people.
Oh but those keep being born here..
>Anti-semitism and anti-Protestant movements and >potato famines sure didn't help Europe keep talent.
?
>Of course, some people came here involuntarily.
True, like Von Braun, I think as climate change happens it is quite possible there is a shift in the US population to let's say a lesser IQ. Living in warm climates with enough food does not inspire the brain to search for technology to survive. It is just a theory, but in cooler climates you see accelerated development. When you get run over and overthrown by an ever increasing black population with a lower IQ and education, yes call me racist, but it is a fact. That whole racist thing is abused by same group for about everything. So when the US system collapses and you go back to a bunch of warlords ruling a jungle.. Genetics.. forbidden to speak about it. and government structure. That is why I think China may outperform US. ruled by the people. And the religious fanatics that deny life has been found by the Viking lander on mars, and from THAT MOMENT on sabotaged space travel and force endless looping around the earth. It did not fit their illusions. What a place. Religious fanatics are everywhere though and their void of understanding of reality is filled by dogma, and then taken as the only truth, end of science. Try getting free of that Republican bunch, but their folly projects make customers, Now where you are?
On a sunny day (Sat, 20 Jun 2020 07:57:56 -0700) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<pn8sefdil5dj7ilk5l4da50sgbjl6r2v19@4ax.com>:

>On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:00:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje ><pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>Politics, after WW2 Jews needed a bit of a hero, and OneStone's theory was 'proven' >>over and over again, to the point where if your thing conflicted with it you simply did not get published. >>Now OneSTone was a total failure, his 'theory' is just a bit of math that describes reality, >>but has been shown to break down, and you cannot PROVE a theory but can sure disprove it. > >Gravitational lensing, relativity, E=MC^2, gravity waves, stimulated >emission, quantized photoemission, pretty good ideas from a young >patent office clerk.
For me Ohm's law without electrons would have kept me away from 'tronics. OneStone's graffiti without a carrier is meaningless. Photon is just a mathematical construct abused no end. E=m.c^2 was not only his: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/was-einstein-the-first-to-invent-e-mc2/
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 9:10:24 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sat, 20 Jun 2020 07:57:56 -0700) it happened > jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in > <pn8sefdil5dj7ilk5l4da50sgbjl6r2v19@4ax.com>: > > >On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:00:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje > ><pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Politics, after WW2 Jews needed a bit of a hero, and OneStone's theory was 'proven' over and over again, to the point where if your thing conflicted with it you simply did not get published. > >>Now OneSTone was a total failure, his 'theory' is just a bit of math that describes reality, but has been shown to break down, and you cannot PROVE a theory but can sure disprove it. > > > >Gravitational lensing, relativity, E=MC^2, gravity waves, stimulated > >emission, quantized photoemission, pretty good ideas from a young > >patent office clerk. > > For me Ohm's law without electrons would have kept me away from 'tronics.
Ohm didn't know about electrons when he formulated it. Georg Simon Ohm, (born March 16, 1789, Erlangen, Bavaria [Germany], died July 6, 1854, Munich) before there were any cathode-ray tubes around - they do not seem to have been invented until 1890.
> OneStone's graffiti without a carrier is meaningless.
It doesn't mean anything to Jan Panteltje, but the fault is in Jan, rather than the theory.
> Photon is just a mathematical construct abused no end.
All physics is a mathematical construct. It does happen to be a useful construct to people who can think more competently than Jan, but he does seem to resist learning enough to realise this.
> E=m.c^2 was not only his: > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/was-einstein-the-first-to-invent-e-mc2/
Einstein does seem to have been the first to articulate the right answer in a reasonably compact and convincing way. It's bit nostalgic to see Jan explaining that Einstein is over-rated. The physics user-groups used to be full of nut-cases explaining how Einstein was wrong. Of course most of them had their own theory, which they imagined to be better, and Jan hasn't bothered to tell us about his own superior insights. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 00:28:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 6/20/2020 9:38 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> On a sunny day (Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:11:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin >> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >> <bfdqefdtnvejm3uva4v8hrgpkjtd495a02@4ax.com>: >> >>> >>> R has studied DT a lot more than I have. He is a thinker. Both of them >>> I guess. >>> >>> All successful companies have a few Big Thinkers. >> >> I think it is spelled 'sinker'? >> What is left of his followers after they discover most of his brain has switched off because of the >> 'medicine' he takes, will probably die of corona due to keeping no distance at all in his campaign. >> Nature has its ways and laws. >> > >Yes, America is full of fine Christian "big thinkers" who can hardly say >enough nice things about each other. /eyeroll
Say a little thinker who invents nothing but imaginary people that he can spew contempt at. Be careful with those eyerolls; you might damage your vision. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 10:25:29 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sat, 20 Jun 2020 07:52:04 -0700) it happened >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in ><eq7sefdn51ks4m05sphfh6puuiusuonu66@4ax.com>: > >>People have always come to the US for a fresh beginning and a chance >>to do what they can without being dragged down by old establishments. >>The native Americans were the first. > >First to get murdered?
Napoleon. The Kaiser. Hitler. Stalin. The Inquisition. Thousands of years of warfare. Famines. Slavery. European Paradise.
> > >>For some reason, Canada and Australia and Brazil didn't get that >>scientific and invention immigration. I guess there is enough positive >>feedback that one technology center prospers around a nucleus, like >>MIT and then Stanford. > >I sort of reduced my view of MIT after they came with that new wireless charging system >was discussed here long ago, sold to Bo[e]ing I think it >violated all EMI rules. > >>The selective migration to the US - the most adventurous, most >>irrelevant, most unmanageable, most creative, sometimes most criminal >>- people emigrated here. That created what we are, for better or >>worse. And to some extent it brain-drained the rest of the world of >>creative people. > >Oh but those keep being born here.. > > >>Anti-semitism and anti-Protestant movements and >>potato famines sure didn't help Europe keep talent. > >? > > >>Of course, some people came here involuntarily. > >True, like Von Braun, > > >I think as climate change happens it is quite possible there is a shift in the US population >to let's say a lesser IQ. > >Living in warm climates with enough food does not inspire the brain to search for technology to survive. > >It is just a theory, but in cooler climates you see accelerated development. > >When you get run over and overthrown by an ever increasing black population with a lower IQ and education, yes >call me racist, but it is a fact. >That whole racist thing is abused by same group for about everything. >So when the US system collapses and you go back to a bunch of warlords ruling a jungle.. > >Genetics.. forbidden to speak about it. >and government structure. >That is why I think China may outperform US. ruled by the people. > >And the religious fanatics that deny life has been found by the Viking lander on mars, >and from THAT MOMENT on sabotaged space travel and force endless looping around the earth. >It did not fit their illusions. > >What a place. > >Religious fanatics are everywhere though and their void of understanding of reality is filled >by dogma, and then taken as the only truth, end of science. >Try getting free of that Republican bunch, but their folly projects make customers, >Now where you are? >
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 11:10:11 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sat, 20 Jun 2020 07:57:56 -0700) it happened >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in ><pn8sefdil5dj7ilk5l4da50sgbjl6r2v19@4ax.com>: > >>On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:00:32 GMT, Jan Panteltje >><pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>Politics, after WW2 Jews needed a bit of a hero,
Einstein was a hero long before WWII. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%27s_awards_and_honors and OneStone's theory was 'proven'
>>>over and over again, to the point where if your thing conflicted with it you simply did not get published. >>>Now OneSTone was a total failure, his 'theory' is just a bit of math that describes reality, >>>but has been shown to break down, and you cannot PROVE a theory but can sure disprove it. >> >>Gravitational lensing, relativity, E=MC^2, gravity waves, stimulated >>emission, quantized photoemission, pretty good ideas from a young >>patent office clerk. > >For me Ohm's law without electrons would have kept me away from 'tronics. >OneStone's graffiti without a carrier is meaningless. >Photon is just a mathematical construct abused no end.
Equations that work, that are predictive of measurable quantities, aren't abuse. They tell us about reality. They help us design things. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard
On 6/21/2020 10:14 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 00:28:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 6/20/2020 9:38 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:11:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin >>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >>> <bfdqefdtnvejm3uva4v8hrgpkjtd495a02@4ax.com>: >>> >>>> >>>> R has studied DT a lot more than I have. He is a thinker. Both of them >>>> I guess. >>>> >>>> All successful companies have a few Big Thinkers. >>> >>> I think it is spelled 'sinker'? >>> What is left of his followers after they discover most of his brain has switched off because of the >>> 'medicine' he takes, will probably die of corona due to keeping no distance at all in his campaign. >>> Nature has its ways and laws. >>> >> >> Yes, America is full of fine Christian "big thinkers" who can hardly say >> enough nice things about each other. /eyeroll > > Say a little thinker who invents nothing but imaginary people that he > can spew contempt at.
I read that book it was called "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand.
> Be careful with those eyerolls; you might damage your vision. >
Ayn Rand died of lung cancer she thought anti-smoking propaganda was a Communist plot.
On 6/21/2020 10:14 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 00:28:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 6/20/2020 9:38 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:11:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin >>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >>> <bfdqefdtnvejm3uva4v8hrgpkjtd495a02@4ax.com>: >>> >>>> >>>> R has studied DT a lot more than I have. He is a thinker. Both of them >>>> I guess. >>>> >>>> All successful companies have a few Big Thinkers. >>> >>> I think it is spelled 'sinker'? >>> What is left of his followers after they discover most of his brain has switched off because of the >>> 'medicine' he takes, will probably die of corona due to keeping no distance at all in his campaign. >>> Nature has its ways and laws. >>> >> >> Yes, America is full of fine Christian "big thinkers" who can hardly say >> enough nice things about each other. /eyeroll > > Say a little thinker who invents nothing but imaginary people that he > can spew contempt at. > > Be careful with those eyerolls; you might damage your vision. > > >
I have to appreciate your brevity as compared to Howard Roark though he blew up a building and then droned on for like 30 pages about it. What a snooze-fest.
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 11:17:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 6/21/2020 10:14 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 00:28:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 6/20/2020 9:38 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 19 Jun 2020 15:11:25 -0700) it happened John Larkin >>>> <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >>>> <bfdqefdtnvejm3uva4v8hrgpkjtd495a02@4ax.com>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> R has studied DT a lot more than I have. He is a thinker. Both of them >>>>> I guess. >>>>> >>>>> All successful companies have a few Big Thinkers. >>>> >>>> I think it is spelled 'sinker'? >>>> What is left of his followers after they discover most of his brain has switched off because of the >>>> 'medicine' he takes, will probably die of corona due to keeping no distance at all in his campaign. >>>> Nature has its ways and laws. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, America is full of fine Christian "big thinkers" who can hardly say >>> enough nice things about each other. /eyeroll >> >> Say a little thinker who invents nothing but imaginary people that he >> can spew contempt at. >> >> Be careful with those eyerolls; you might damage your vision. >> >> >> > >I have to appreciate your brevity as compared to Howard Roark though he >blew up a building and then droned on for like 30 pages about it. What a >snooze-fest.
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