gray_wolf <g_wolf@howling_mad.com> wrote in news:GpYrF.60705$VU2.49034@fx12.iad:> On 10/23/2019 6:18 AM, Martin Brown wrote: >> On 23/10/2019 11:07, gray_wolf wrote: >>> I need to send 40GB of photos to several people. My upload speed >>> is .230 MB/s. It seems to me my best bet is to mail them a flash >>> drive. Any tips on mailing them 1st class mail? Any problems >>> mailing them to Mexico and Canada? I live in Texas. Nothing >>> illegal just common family type images. Thanks >> >> Upload from somewhere with a much faster connection - 230k seems >> awfull > y slow. >> My rural wet string was good for 448k on ADSL and went up to 1M >> when AD > SL 2+ was >> rolled out and that is on antique corroded copper. >> >> You need to check the allowed thickness and weight to qualify as >> a lett > er. Jiffy >> bags work OK especially if you put the USB thumb in a hole cut >> into a p > iece of >> thick corrugated cardboard to protect it. Amazon often send them >> in thi > n card >> "frustration free" packaging and most survive OK. I have had some >> nearl > y fall >> out of their delivery box. >> >> You might want to cut the size down to 32GB since they are >> presently ab > out the >> sweet spot for cheap USB drives. I quite like this Sandisk blade >> for distributing bulky content. Smaller than most. >> >> https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDCZ50-032G-FFP-Cruzer-Blade-Flas >> h/dp/ > B007PYBNSC/ >> >> If you know the recipients can handle them then sD card cuts the >> size a > nd weight >> down to something you can include inside a Christmas card. >> > > Martin, Thanks for the reply! I thought about the SD cards. I'll > check on the peoples > hardware and skill level. I can cut the size down. You'd think > most people would know a nerd that could help with an SD card. > Thanks for the packaging tips. > >Most laptops have SD reader slots, so a micro-sd chip would need to go in the usually also provided carrier that restores the original form factor, which is what the laptops incorporate. The newer, thin laptops and 'notebooks' have 'chip slots' in most of them that no longer needs the larger carrier. And of course, the chips usually also can be plugged into one's phone, if it is not a Clinton era Blackberry or such.
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On 10/23/2019 8:22 AM, Winfield Hill wrote:> gray_wolf wrote... >> >>> If you know the recipients can handle them then SD card >>> cuts the size and weight down to something you can >>> include inside a Christmas card. >> >> Martin, Thanks for the reply! I thought about the SD cards. > > Some USB drives are really thin. The Kingston Digital > DataTraveler SE9 has a strong metal case, costs only $6. > >Thanks! That looks just the ticket. Don't suppose the post office would kill it?
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in news:qopl8i$18k4$1 @gioia.aioe.org:> gray_wolf <g_wolf@howling_mad.com> wrote in > news:NgYrF.60704$VU2.36039@fx12.iad: > >> On 10/23/2019 5:42 AM, Rob wrote: >>> gray_wolf <g_wolf@howling_mad.com> wrote: >>>> I need to send 40GB of photos to several people. My upload speed >>>> is .230 MB/s. It seems to me my best bet is to mail them a flash >>>> drive. Any tips on mailing them 1st class mail? Any problems >>>> mailing them to Mexico and Canada? I live in Texas. Nothing >>>> illegal just common family type images. Thanks >>> >>> Often people's download speed is much higher than upload. >>> In cases like this, files are often uploaded to some cloud >>> storage or file transfer service, so you need to upload it only >>> once, you can send them an e-mail containing the required info to >>> download the files. >>> Of course 40GB is still an appreciable amount of data, some >>> people may have download caps that prevent them from downloading >>> it. You can consider to shrink the photos using one of the >>> available programs that can do this. Today people often have >>> photos in native camera resolution that take several MB per >>> photo, while a simple snapshot for family usage can be compressed >>> to 200kB easily without anyone noticing. When you upload both >>> versions as a separate collection, those that want high quality >>> can download the large one. >>> >>> Mailing flash drives in a normal envelope usually leads to >>> disaster, due to mechanical processing of the mail. You will >>> need to mail them in a sturdy envelope (carton, tyvek) and be >>> sure it is handled as a package, not a letter. >>> >> >> Rob, Thanks for your reply! My down load speed is 2.7 MB/s on a >> fast connection. Thankfully I don't upload much. I did spend 36 >> hours sending some stuff to my brother's NAS ftp server. Got some >> mail from Google Fiber yesterday saying high speed fiber is coming >> but didn't give a firm date. >> >> That's what I was looking for safe packaging info. I only need to >> send three at the moment. The thought occurred that perhaps I >> could rent some tine on a fast ftp server but search didn't turn >> up any thing. Thanks again. >> >> >> >> > > You can use a smaller, free server, and simply upload a partial > archive (some of the files). Tell the recipients to let you know > once they have them, then delete those and upload the next block. > Lather, rinse, repeat.I just thought of a way to get a larger overall storage capacity. Have you three recipients and yourself create an account on said service. Then share your passwords with each other, then YOU, as the person needing to pass the archive to all, log onto each and upload partial blocks of the complete archive to each. Then each recipient then logs onto each and DLs the data. The more folks involved, the bigger the capacity. Albeit slightly more labor intensive on the collection side. Your recipients need to decide if they want 40GB on their drive or would having it on a stick be a better choice anyway. As far as the small free server utilization capacity idea goes though... Easy, peasy, stack 'em up sleazy...
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gray_wolf <g_wolf@howling_mad.com> wrote in news:mVYrF.635361$oJ2.124328@fx46.iad:> On 10/23/2019 8:22 AM, Winfield Hill wrote: >> gray_wolf wrote... >>> >>>> If you know the recipients can handle them then SD card >>>> cuts the size and weight down to something you can >>>> include inside a Christmas card. >>> >>> Martin, Thanks for the reply! I thought about the SD cards. >> >> Some USB drives are really thin. The Kingston Digital >> DataTraveler SE9 has a strong metal case, costs only $6. >> >> > > Thanks! That looks just the ticket. Don't suppose the post office > would kill it? >Unless it is made from lead or DU, and you only put one stamp on it. You'd (apparently) be amazed at what gets put into an envelope and sent USPS.
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On 23/10/2019 12:55, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in > news:qopcub$162$1@gioia.aioe.org: > >> On 23/10/2019 11:07, gray_wolf wrote: >>> I need to send 40GB of photos to several people. My upload speed >>> is .230 MB/s. It seems to me my best bet is to mail them a flash >>> drive. Any tips on mailing them 1st class mail? Any problems >>> mailing them to Mexico and Canada? I live in Texas. Nothing >>> illegal just common family type images. Thanks >> >> Upload from somewhere with a much faster connection - 230k seems >> awfully slow. My rural wet string was good for 448k on ADSL and >> went up to 1M when ADSL 2+ was rolled out and that is on antique >> corroded copper. > > You sure that was "on copper"?Absolutely. If it was on fibre even part of the way then I would have about 5MB like they do in the next village. And equally if there was any aluminium copper joints in the signal path I'd be lucky to get 256k.> > Oh and cable modems have ALWAYS had a slower up-fiber connection > that their down rate. Those were original choices made by the cable > provider back when motorola and they made the spec.UK isn't strong on cable modems except in the cities. Cable TV was very late in the UK compared to many other countries. ADSL was slow to arrive here and for a long while was limited to 2Mbps down 448k up.>> You need to check the allowed thickness and weight to qualify as a >> letter. Jiffy bags work OK especially if you put the USB thumb in >> a hole cut into a piece of thick corrugated cardboard to protect >> it. Amazon often send them in thin card "frustration free" >> packaging and most survive OK. I have had some nearly fall out of >> their delivery box. > > A piece of cardboard does NOT "protect" a USB stick in an envelope. > Several mm of card stock hard laminated together with a necting cup > in it would, but ordinary corregated cardboard box stuff? No way.There is a sort of double layer stuff that is about right for the job. Amazon quite often put them in the mail unprotected! -- Regards, Martin Brown
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Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:qopobj$1n6r$1@gioia.aioe.org:> Absolutely. If it was on fibre even part of the way then I would > have about 5MB like they do in the next village. And equally if > there was any aluminium copper joints in the signal path I'd be > lucky to get 256k.Cannot aggree. ADSL from the get go was digital, and that meant ISDN from your first hop out and back. So *your* last link drop was copper, but the first switch house it hit was ISDN and fiber from that point forward. That started (being put in) in 1988.
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:33:23 +0100, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:>On 23/10/2019 12:55, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote: >> Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in >> news:qopcub$162$1@gioia.aioe.org: >> >>> On 23/10/2019 11:07, gray_wolf wrote: >>>> I need to send 40GB of photos to several people. My upload speed >>>> is .230 MB/s. It seems to me my best bet is to mail them a flash >>>> drive. Any tips on mailing them 1st class mail? Any problems >>>> mailing them to Mexico and Canada? I live in Texas. Nothing >>>> illegal just common family type images. Thanks >>> >>> Upload from somewhere with a much faster connection - 230k seems >>> awfully slow. My rural wet string was good for 448k on ADSL and >>> went up to 1M when ADSL 2+ was rolled out and that is on antique >>> corroded copper. >> >> You sure that was "on copper"? > >Absolutely. If it was on fibre even part of the way then I would have >about 5MB like they do in the next village. And equally if there was any >aluminium copper joints in the signal path I'd be lucky to get 256k. >> >> Oh and cable modems have ALWAYS had a slower up-fiber connection >> that their down rate. Those were original choices made by the cable >> provider back when motorola and they made the spec. > >UK isn't strong on cable modems except in the cities. Cable TV was very >late in the UK compared to many other countries. ADSL was slow to arrive >here and for a long while was limited to 2Mbps down 448k up.We have microwave service at work, for internet and phones. It's line of sight to another dish maybe 1/4 mile away. We pay for 50+50 mbps and get close to 500+500. To get fiber, we would have had to pay to dig up a block of sidewalk. The microwave dishes are astounding. The pair has RJ45s and acts like a piece of CAT6 at 1 GBPS. The pair of dishes costs something incredible like $140. https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4kz2j7ikii3b0z/Monkey_Brains_Dish.JPG?raw=1 There's a small village north of here that had no internet service so one guy got a dish pair and connects to the other side of Bodega Bay, and provides data for his neighbors. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote...> > The microwave dishes are astounding. ... > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4kz2j7ikii3b0z/Monkey_Brains_Dish.JPG?raw=1Unfortunately, when you Google, Monkey Brains Dish, you get ... dishes of monkey brains, uggh! -- Thanks, - Win
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On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 6:07:07 AM UTC-4, gray_wolf wrote:> I need to send 40GB of photos to several people. My upload speed is .230 MB/s. > It seems to me my best bet is to mail them a flash drive. Any tips on mailing them > 1st class mail? Any problems mailing them to Mexico and Canada? I live in Texas. > Nothing illegal just common family type images. > ThanksWow, that's 44 hours of upload time. Still not inconceivable. However, it's still a bear even with typical higher speed connections like 10 or even 100 Mbps. Your speed is actually 2 Mbps, so at the low end, but not ridiculous. I was going to suggest you use the link at your local library or coffee shop, but unless they have a seriously high speed link you would still be there for hours. Yeah, for 40 GB I suspect the flash card or USB drive is best. A 64 GB SD card can be mailed between two pieces of card stock (cereal box cardboard) in an envelope. Use one of those rather small envelopes or it might end up weighing more than the base 1 oz. Also, use tape to seal the two cards together so the SD card won't slide out from between them. -- Rick C. - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in news:m9t0retirqlve4nb60stoqq4hm5d3389sd@4ax.com:> > There's a small village north of here that had no internet service so > one guy got a dish pair and connects to the other side of Bodega Bay, > and provides data for his neighbors. >Far out. I used to climb phone pole guy wires (hand over hand) and pull traps off neighbors' cable feeds. :-)
