The Deplorables

On 09/16/2016 11:17 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
> 2. Blacks, White Men gave you your rights.

You mean gave them back, after they were taken away? What ingrates.

>"They do. It's part of the same package. You raise more taxes from >everybody to spend on making the poor a healthier, better educated >and more productive work force, "

I bet you like that big pink dinosaur too. You know "I love, you love me...". 

You are just too dense to understand that what they tell you about how this country is is not how it is. 

Niggers playing that punchdown or whatever "game". Hitting old Ladies in the face and knocking them down. Do they do that in YOUR country ? Do they fine you for fixing your own car in your own driveway ? Do they fine you if your grass turns brown or fine you if you water it ? Do they give you drunk driving tickets that stick even if you read zero on the breathalyser ? Do they put you in jail for twenty years for one joint ? Do the neighbors call the police because you have a fucking jetski in the driveway ? They put a (Black) guy in jail right here in town for not having lids on some of his trash cans. 

Come on over motherfucker, but I am shooting the shit out of your passport so you are stuck here for a while. See how it really is. 

You think it is like DR Who and there is a police box in which you can hide and call the coppers ? No, you are out there and if you can't fight and don't have a gun you might just be dead. 

Come and walk with me. Down Detroit Avenue in Cleveland at midnight. You don't have the fucking balls.

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:18:57 PM UTC-5, matt wrote:
> On 09/16/2016 11:17 PM, jurb wrote:
> > 2. Blacks, White Men gave you your rights.
> 
> You mean gave them back, after they were taken away? What ingrates.

Actually, that is correct. Rights do not come from anything, you are born with them. People and organizations can only take them away. 

I am a privileged White Man. Can the government give me the right to fly ? Nope. They can't turn me into a bird. 

Really, now you put it that way I say you are right. You are born with rights and others take them away. 

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:37:04 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

> Nobody in their right mind could vote for Trump, if they understood how erratic his proclaimed policies actually are.
> 
> -- 
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

And nobody in their right mind could vote for Hillary, if they knew how crooked she is.

So that is our choice.  Erratic or crooked.

                                  Dan

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 2:23:36 PM UTC+10, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
> >"They do. It's part of the same package. You raise more taxes from >everybody to spend on making the poor a healthier, better educated >and more productive work force, "
> 
> I bet you like that big pink dinosaur too. You know "I love, you love me...". 
> 
> You are just too dense to understand that what they tell you about how this country is is not how it is. 

You are just too dense to realise that if the US had been run when you were growing up in the same way that Germany is today, you might not be any less dense, but you'd probably be better-informed.
 
<snipped bizarre list of bizarre events>
 
> Come on over motherfucker, but I am shooting the shit out of your passport so you are stuck here for a while. See how it really is.

Not an attractive invitation. 
 
> You think it is like DR Who and there is a police box in which you can hide and call the coppers ? No, you are out there and if you can't fight and don't have a gun you might just be dead. 

Sounds like a neighbourhood that prudent people would avoid. You don't have enough sense to be prudent.
 
> Come and walk with me. Down Detroit Avenue in Cleveland at midnight. You don't have the fucking balls.

You want me to prove my manhood by doing something stupid? School kids dare other school-kids to do stupid stuff, but even as a school kid that struck me as a dumb.

I'm an intelligent adult. I stay well out of the way of psychopathic lunatics - I've even given up playing field hockey.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 2:08:54 PM UTC+10, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
> >"In Jim Thompson's case that's most of the country."
> 
> So you know the thoughts and desires of all of us from ten fucking thousand miles away, right ? 
> 
> Come on over and I'll GIVE you that oceanfront property in Arizona. Then you can have a gunfight with Jim. But he will win because he has one and you don't.

Jim claims not to own a gun. The one he fired - at a gun club - a year or so ago belonged to one of his sons-in-law.
 
> I ain't pussyfooting around with anyone anymore. You got nothing.

Nothing you can comprehend, but you can't comprehend much.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 9:42:17 PM UTC+10, dca...@krl.org wrote:
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:37:04 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
> 
> > Nobody in their right mind could vote for Trump, if they understood how erratic his proclaimed policies actually are.
> 
> And nobody in their right mind could vote for Hillary, if they knew how crooked she is.
> 
> So that is our choice.  Erratic or crooked.

That's your choice. Between somebody who is described as "erratic" by which they mean that you can't trust a word he says, and somebody who Trump describes as crooked - despite the fact that she's never been convicted of anything, or even bankrupted.

I'm afraid that you are guilty of paying too much attention to what Trump says, and not enough to the fact that he's going to say something different tomorrow.

Yesterday he was convinced that Barack Obama wasn't born in the USA, but today he tells us that he now believes he was. Maybe tomorrow he will tell you that Hillary Clinton isn't actually crooked either.

And you'd believe him. So much for the Harvard education.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 2:38:13 PM UTC+10, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:18:57 PM UTC-5, matt wrote:
> > On 09/16/2016 11:17 PM, jurb wrote:
> > > 2. Blacks, White Men gave you your rights.
> > 
> > You mean gave them back, after they were taken away? What ingrates.
> 
> Actually, that is correct. Rights do not come from anything, you are born with them. People and organizations can only take them away. 
> 
> I am a privileged White Man. Can the government give me the right to fly ? Nope. They can't turn me into a bird. 

So it was your careless choice of ancestors that made you a bird-brain, rather than an inadequate education system that didn't teach anything like enough.
 
> Really, now you put it that way I say you are right. You are born with rights and others take them away.

You are only born with rights if you are born into a society that thinks the new-born have rights. A couple of centuries ago, if you have been born to slave parents, you'd have been property.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 14:40:47 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com <dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 1:33:18 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:10:05 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:17:47 PM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's pretty interesting how that came about.  I recently read
> "Recollections of 92 Years, 1824-1916," by Elizabeth Avery Meriwether,
> a southern woman who lived through the thick of it.  I was very
> surprised to read of the Civil War from a Southerner's perspective.

For another viewpoint, try Eric Foner's "Nothing But Freedom:
Emancipation and Its Legacy" and (a bit longer and more detailed)
"Forever Free: The Sory of Emancipation and Reconstruction".

( The pulp-and-text-challenged can find an AHTV (C-SPAN3) interview of
  Foner here:
  The Civil War: Politics of Reconstruction
  https://www.c-span.org/video/?401420-1/politics-reconstruction
)

One of Foner's key points is the conflict between the plantation owners'
desperate need for cheap manpower and the ex-slaves' reluctance to work
under the conditions the former slave-owners wanted: long hours of hard
labor for little or no pay, and subject to the same kind of punishment
they had experienced prior to the war.


Frank McKenney
-- 
  Socialism presumes that we already have most of the knowledge we need
  to accomplish our national goals. Capitalism is based on the idea that
  we live in a world of unfathomable complexity, ignorance, and peril;
  and that we cannot possibly prevail over our difficulties without
  constant efforts of initiative, sympathy, discovery, and love. One
  system maintains that we can reliably predict and elicit the results
  we demand. The other asserts that we must give long before we can know
  what the universe will return. One is based on empirically calculable
  human power; the other on optimism and faith. These are the essential
  visions that compete in the world and determine our fate.

              -- George Gilder / Wealth and Poverty, A New Edition
-- 
Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates
Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887
Munged E-mail: frank und.scr mckenney aatt mindspring d.ot com

>"So it was your careless choice of ancestors that made you a  
>bird-brain, rather than an inadequate education system that didn't >teach anything like enough."

You win the prize for the day. You just proved Jim Thompson right in his post with the link to the IVIs, but I have doubts about the first "I", as I bet even more here do after this totally inane post.