The Deplorables

On 9/18/2016 1:26 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:53:00 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
>>> housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always assisting
>>> the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys if it rained
>>> ;-)
>>
>> Why can't turkeys get wet?
>
> They _drown_ swallowing the rain... dumbest creatures (domesticated
> turkeys) on the face of the earth ;-)

If they had guns with high capacity magazines, they could shoot the 
raindrops themselves and not be forced to depend on a vicious government 
that only wants to keep them dependent.

>"When the gov't starts harming you for your color, to benefit those >of another, though, that's a horse of a different color. "

Well, we got that history of slavery, which actually did happen elsewhere but was most recently institutionalized in the US. Actually I think it is still legal in some places. But they aqre small countries and don't mean much. 

Also not to forget, slavery was here before government. Also, there were Black slave owners. Very few, but some. Plus there were plenty of White indentured servants. 

And many Blacks were freed, and "given their papers". The papers proved they were a free Man, because up north in the "free" state we had people going around capturing Blacks with the intent of returning them to the masters for a bounty. Roger B. Taney, who was awarded his judgeship for selling out this country as an unconfirmed secretary of the treasury mad the decision that if a slave escaped to a free state he was not free. 

White Man has alot to live down,, but I didn't do it. In fact it was mostly the English. We should have let the Nazis pound the fucking shit out of them in WW2.

<"Wow, your life sounds pretty messed up. "

Not really, I just see it as "shit happens". And there is alot more, alot more. My Father was a criminal for a while, and abusive at times. Ma put his ass out. He came back into my life much later when I became an asshole. 

She put me out when I was about 14 or 15. I went to live with him. He told me "If you need money it is in the top dresser drawer". I looked and there was like six grand there. There was also a bar within walking distance he had a tab at and drank on the tab. then he bought me my first car, a 1970 W34 Olds Toronado. 

Of course he did other shit, like got drunk and shot his gun off in the house. But if you know geometry you know that the farther away you are the less chance of getting hit, so of course we gave him some space. 

But he also got me a job and taught me a decent work ethic, and a few skills. Later we both settled down and we started flipping cars, bought a double house and I got half of it and he got half of it. By then I had a decent job and so did he and we split the bills. In 2008 I found him dead on the floor as I was bringing him the Sunday paper. He was one of the few people I ever knew who did the crossword puzzles. IN PEN. 

You take the good with the bad, and honestly, that which does not kill you makes you stronger. As a result of all this I am able to keep a calm head in a bad situation. You put a gun to my head don't expect fear. I'll say "Well,,, does that thing work or do you want a fucking ass kicking ?". Problem with that is my health. I will have to remember all the moves and the leverage and all that shit because after the black mold I no longer have the strength. I am considering just carrying a gun all the time but that is more trouble than it is worth usually. I wish more people would and put the risk back into crime, but that is for people who are fit and have good eyesight. 

Back in the day I could hear a pin drop three rooms away, you could stand on my chest as I smoked a cigarette and we have a conversation. My sparring partner kicked me in the chest and sent me flying 20 across the room and I came back and said do it again, and he did. Honestly, two of those were enough. That guy holds the distinction of never having lost a fight. Ever. I figure that made him a pretty good workout/sparring partner. He almost got a registered arm. Guy got out of hand at oe of his parties and he hit him like six times and the asshole was in the hospital for like six months. Somehow he talked his way out of getting a registered arm. 

Then I move into this other crowd and what did we do on Friday ? Get the best weed we could find and put it in baloons to smuggle it to our people who were in prison. 

So really, life was not all that fucked up and I went along with it, and I even got "made" at like 21 years old by saying two words in the courtroom. then they knew they could trust me. To this day I won't move out of this area because for shit they would lock you up for they only write me a ticket and they do not come and get me. Even if they catch me, someone keeps erasing my name out of their computers. 

I am just fine. But I do not like how this country is going. We make a shit ton of enemies and then let them in ? I got no problem blowing their heads off but what about our Mothers and sisters ? We need these borders fucking CLOSED. Take over your own government, don't come here and try to take over ours. 

And I wasn't like this before. It's just when you watch world events and all that and you are a natural born troubleshooter, you find a solution if possible. That won't fix the economy, but it will make your loved ones less unsafe. 

Enough. Take it how you want it.

>"and I don't live in a fascist, dictatorial state
>like North Korea "

I am sick to death of people comparing this country to third worl shithole dictatorships and saying how great we are. How about Switzerland, Uruguay, wherever Amsterdam is, and places that have jobs, like EVEN RUSSIA ! 

I agree there are worse countries, but the fact is that there are also better. 

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 1:33:18 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:10:05 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
> wrote:
> 
> >On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:17:47 PM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> You go right ahead, but we ain't taking no more shit. 
> >> 
> >> 1. Women, White Men gave you your rights.
> >> 
> >> 2. Blacks, White Men gave you your rights.
> >> 
> >> I, a White Man am willing to die for your rights right now. 
> >> 
> >> Who would do the same for me ? 
> >> 
> >> T^T
> >
> >It's got nothing to do with skin color.  It has to do with ideas that
> >happened to arise first in Europe, e.g. liberty & natural rights.
> >
> >You're confusing the power of ideas with pigmentation.
> >
> >The beauty of our system was that no one had to care about anyone's color
> >or the cut of their jib, provided we each lived freely without harming
> >anyone else.
> 
> That certainly wasn't true in 1850.

If you read their writings, the founders thought their Constitution's ban
on slave importation beginning twenty years after signing would end the
institution in America.  But Eli Whitney's cotton gin came along and
changed the economics completely, making a failing practice suddenly
highly profitable.  Technology.  The founders couldn't have foreseen that.

> Or in 1950. When I was a kid, no
> black person (defined as 1/16th black or more) could eat in a white
> restaurant, use a white drinking fountain, go to a white school or
> university, or enter any of a number of professions, or live in a
> white neighborhood.

It's pretty interesting how that came about.  I recently read
"Recollections of 92 Years, 1824-1916," by Elizabeth Avery Meriwether,
a southern woman who lived through the thick of it.  I was very
surprised to read of the Civil War from a Southerner's perspective.
If you're inclined, a few passages give you the flavor:

"After Lee's surrender the people of the Sought were anxious to know
 how their conquerors were going to treat them.  Would they be merciful,
 or would they be bitter and cruel as they had been during the four years
 of war?"

"This merciful treatment of Virginians by Lincoln evoked from every Southern
 heart the deepest appreciation; the people of the South hoped and believed
 that at last the hate and bitterness of the war were to die out on both
 sides and a true friendship between North and South was to make the country
 really one again."

Lincoln was assassinated though, and his replacements preferred to
humiliate and punish the South instead.

Congress "[A]nnulled the State governments then in peaceful operation,
 divided the Southern States into Military Districts, placed them
 under martial law, disenfranchised all white men who had not actively
 sided with the North (this meant practically that all white men were
 disenfranchised) and enfranchised all black men!"

New local governments were quickly assembled from the unschooled ranks of
the former slaves.

"At a banquet given here the other day, among the guests were three
 ex-Governors, two ex-members of Congress, and an ex-Justice of the
 Supreme Court, besides a number of lawyers, doctors, and prominent
 business men. But the only persons in the Banquet Hall who could
 either vote or hold public office were the negroes who waited on the
 table!" (letter from a North Carolina friend, 1868)

Who began promptly to spend the public monies, threatening to ruin
the distraught Southerners, who, disenfranchised, had no voice or
legal recourse.

"The adventurers from the North who swooped down upon the South to make
 their fortunes...
 Under the malign influences of these self-seeking carpet baggers the
 ignorant, poor negroes made but sorry use of the franchise thrust upon
 them. [...] Negro legislatures would vote millions and millions of
 dollars for public works that were never executed; but the carpet
 baggers would get hold of the bonds..."

Meriwether then describes the Democrats' remedy: conquered and desperate,
occupied by two million soldiers and living under martial law, they
formed the Klu Klux Klan.


> That produced a cultural isolation that exists
> still.

I credit Johnson's Great Society for that.  America has had several waves
of newcomers since who have already been assimilated and are fully
integrated into society.  But his aim to keep "n****ers voting Democrat
for the next 200 years" necessitated the divide and conquer tactics
Hillary Clinton is still spouting today, even this past week.

American Indians, ditto.  All the crap to "help" them has held them down,
and all the folks who came here without those special programs have blended
in and are doing fine in no time at all (e.g. the Asian boat people).

> >When the gov't starts harming you for your color, to benefit those of
> >another, though, that's a horse of a different color.
> >
> >Therein's always the problem of governments getting involved in
> >redistribution--they have to hurt some to benefit others, which
> >sets peoples against each other.
> 
> In the South, segregation was unconstitutionally enforced by
> government. There wasn't much redistribution going on.

You don't think those policies were, at bottom, intended to redistribute
wealth and power?  To advantage one group at another's expense?

> The Great Society, of course, used racial preferences, and a little
> bit of redistribution, to keep the black population isolated and
> voting Democrat. That mechanism continues.

Indeed, and the harm goes far beyond mere money.  It has led to agency
after agency, the racialization of everything, and a grievance culture
that politicians have exploited since Rome's bread and circuses.

Cheers,
James Arthur

>"I haven't quite figured out why it's always liberals that want to >stir up racial tensions. "

To try to "make their point" and bring more liberals into the herd of sheep. Stop thinking. We are all the same under the skin even though a million years from now they can tell your race from your fossilised remains. And they have the fucking nerve to call people who question even the extent and scope, not even the existence of global warming stupid and not knowing any science. They think science is democratic. Sure was when they were spraying DDT all over the place and feeding us margarine and saccarine, or was that cyclamates ? 

>"I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
>housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always >assisting the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys >if it rained "

LOL, what's wrong with it raining on turkeys ? Seems like it would give them a shower and they would smell better. 

>"My current community is probably 35% Caucasian, 35% Hispanic, 30%
Black... no tensions... NO crime... everyone is armed... "

Know how they say good fences make good neighbors ? Well good guns make even better neighbors. I just hope they keep them out of children's reach because those little fuckers have proven that they can shoot, like the kid who shot his own Father. 

Life is really funny sometimes, on a bottle of bleach it says "KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN" but not on gins, not on carkeys, not on a few other things either that really need such a sign.

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 2:24:28 PM UTC-4, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 9/18/2016 1:26 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:53:00 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> > <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
> >> Jim Thompson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
> >>> housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always assisting
> >>> the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys if it rained
> >>> ;-)
> >>
> >> Why can't turkeys get wet?
> >
> > They _drown_ swallowing the rain... dumbest creatures (domesticated
> > turkeys) on the face of the earth ;-)
> 
> If they had guns with high capacity magazines, they could shoot the 
> raindrops themselves and not be forced to depend on a vicious government 
> that only wants to keep them dependent.

There's no need for that.  If the turkeys vote for Hillary she'll
protect them from all the raindrops and make sure that it never rains
so turkeys can be happy and won't need to show i.d. to get the guns
that they won't need because that would be racist.

;-)

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:49:25 AM UTC-5, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Jim Thompson wrote:
> > I haven't quite figured out why it's always liberals that want to stir
> > up racial tensions.
> 
> They believe that history is a class struggle.  They see everything as 
> haves and have-nots.  I've said before that this explains a lot of their 
> behavior.
> 
> Some of them won't admit they believe in the basic tenets of Communism, 
> but most of them don't know where their philosophy comes from.

Zactly. And who has thee inferior education and skills ? But they wat to give our money away. How about they give their own money away.

>"There were hardly any male-dominated societies in history who
>voluntarily offered equal rights to women or racial minorities.
>They/we had to be shamed and forced to do it. Jurb's comments that
>"White Men gave you your rights" is not what happened. "

They couldn't even vote. What the fuck are you talking about ? 

Den søndag den 18. september 2016 kl. 18.49.25 UTC+2 skrev Tom Del Rosso:
> Jim Thompson wrote:
> > I haven't quite figured out why it's always liberals that want to stir
> > up racial tensions.
> 
> They believe that history is a class struggle.  They see everything as 
> haves and have-nots.  I've said before that this explains a lot of their 
> behavior.
> 
> Some of them won't admit they believe in the basic tenets of Communism, 
> but most of them don't know where their philosophy comes from.

Marxism is the philosophy, communism is a political system