The Deplorables

On 09/16/2016 11:17 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
> You go right ahead, but we ain't taking no more shit.
>
> 1. Women, White Men gave you your rights.
>
> 2. Blacks, White Men gave you your rights.
>
> I, a White Man am willing to die for your rights right now.
>
> Who would do the same for me ?
>
> T^T
>

I have no idea, and it's irrelevant anyway.

Something that I view as self-evident, but seems like a lot have trouble 
grasping: If I have a problem with my life, if I don't like my life or 
the way it's going, and I don't live in a fascist, dictatorial state 
like North Korea (the USA certainly doesn't fall into this category), 
and I'm not so severely ill that I can't work at all or do anything, I 
know where to start looking for the problem.

I look at myself. It's not the fault of Blacks, Whites, Mexicans, 
transgenders, feminists, the 1%, the 99%, the liberal or conservative 
congress, George W. Bush or Barack Obama, the marginal tax rate, or that 
the stars aren't in alignment.

Nope, the problem is right here. Like Michael Jackson said: "I'm 
starting with the man in the mirror."

You don't like the way your situation is? Two steps. A) be kind to 
yourself. B) man the fuck up and do something about it.

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:15:41 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:

[snip]
>
>Looking up my name I found that some of the Italian aristocracy would 
>name their slaves "of the red" after the color of their coat of arms. 
>(So I'm a desendant of slaves and Obama is not, unless his family was 
>enslaved by Muslims.)  It doesn't matter to me.  In fact only 2 
>generations ago it wouldn't have mattered; if my grandfather had been 
>paid more it wouldn't make any difference to my bank account today.
>
>
I haven't quite figured out why it's always liberals that want to stir
up racial tensions.

Maybe it's because they've never actually lived in a mixed community
and have some twisted idea of what goes on there... or have no other
way to get votes ?>:-}

I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always assisting
the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys if it rained
;-)

My current community is probably 35% Caucasian, 35% Hispanic, 30%
Black... no tensions... NO crime... everyone is armed... they wave
hello as you walk or drive by... always inquiring of our health,
particularly since the spate of ambulance visits ;-)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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On 9/18/2016 11:17 AM, bitrex wrote:
> On 09/18/2016 07:21 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
>>> "and why should what some people did to or had done
>>> to them before you were born have any relevance now?"
>>
>> My Dad sold a gun to a Black guy he just bought from a cop at the bar
>> out of a suitcase full of him. Told the cop who he was and the cop
>> said "I'll go bust him and bring it back" and he did.
>>
>> We hired a Black guy at our business and got friendly and he and Dad
>> were drinking booze and the guy said "Your daughter looks pretty good"
>> and good old Dad just about put a shotgun through his head, really
>> fucked him up.
>>
>> In a bar, a guy gets shot but is not dying fast enough so he borrows a
>> hammer from the bartender and starts beating him in the skull with it.
>>
>> This is after I was born though I could do nothing to affect it. And
>> up until recently I really wanted to reverse the trend and be nice.
>> But some recent events have caused me to reconsider. And I can be just
>> as nasty. In fact I can be creatively nasty.
>>
>> These motherfuckers better settle down or millions of people like me
>> will put them out. That is the fact jack.
>
> Wow, your life sounds pretty messed up.

But when he dies god will give him 72 AC-130J's with warp drive, each 
crewed by 72 virgins, and he will be able to travel travel throughout 
the universes taking dominion, settling things down, and planting his 
seed and whatnot.  Sorta like Genghis Khan but without the horsies and 
the cold weather because the climate is warming and the equipment won't 
need all that annoying stuff you need for arctic operations and to 
prevent the scurvy and hoof rot.

-- 
Grizzly H.

Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:15:41 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> Looking up my name I found that some of the Italian aristocracy would
>> name their slaves "of the red" after the color of their coat of arms.
>> (So I'm a desendant of slaves and Obama is not, unless his family was


It just occurred to me that, since his father was a Muslim, it's more 
likely that his ancestors were slave owners.



>> enslaved by Muslims.)  It doesn't matter to me.  In fact only 2
>> generations ago it wouldn't have mattered; if my grandfather had been
>> paid more it wouldn't make any difference to my bank account today.
>>
>>
> I haven't quite figured out why it's always liberals that want to stir
> up racial tensions.
>
> Maybe it's because they've never actually lived in a mixed community
> and have some twisted idea of what goes on there... or have no other
> way to get votes ?>:-}

Some have lived there and some never would.  They arrive at their POV 
different ways.

They've certainly used immigration as a way to import votes.  Since 
Andrew Jackson murdered Indians and gave their land to voters, they've 
always bought votes with other people's property, but in 1965 they 
realized they couldn't buy enough domestically.


> I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
> housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always assisting
> the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys if it rained
> ;-)

I grew up in a NYC area that was half Latin (post Immigration Act) but 
still with a lot of Irish.  The Irish were usually the bullies and 
criminals.  The only race we didn't have was black.  They lived on the 
other side of a boulevard.  In NYC they were never forceably segregated, 
but the government sure made them feel agrieved.  If we strayed over 
there we were in real danger.  When I, in an act of anti-bigotry at age 
13, rode my bike over there to see how wrong the warnings were, I was 
chased out by a swarm of 7-year-olds one of whom started it by yelling, 
"Hey get that white kid."  I would have been dead meat if they were 
older.  But even then I knew they weren't that bad a generation earlier 
before the Great Society.

It was not symmetrical.  When they came into our neighborhood we were 
the ones who had to fear.  But that's the effect of a government telling 
them they should have a grudge.  We see it now in the Obama 
administration's influence in Fergusson and elsewhere.


> My current community is probably 35% Caucasian, 35% Hispanic, 30%
> Black... no tensions... NO crime... everyone is armed... they wave
> hello as you walk or drive by... always inquiring of our health,
> particularly since the spate of ambulance visits ;-)

Jim Thompson wrote:
> I haven't quite figured out why it's always liberals that want to stir
> up racial tensions.

They believe that history is a class struggle.  They see everything as 
haves and have-nots.  I've said before that this explains a lot of their 
behavior.

Some of them won't admit they believe in the basic tenets of Communism, 
but most of them don't know where their philosophy comes from.

Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
> housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always assisting
> the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys if it rained
> ;-)

Why can't turkeys get wet?

On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:16:47 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

>Den s&#4294967295;ndag den 18. september 2016 kl. 00.52.09 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:17:43 -0700 (PDT), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> >You go right ahead, but we ain't taking no more shit. 
>> >
>> >1. Women, White Men gave you your rights.
>> 
>> After thousands of years of taking them away.
>
>that was hardly limited to white or men

There were hardly any male-dominated societies in history who
voluntarily offered equal rights to women or racial minorities.
They/we had to be shamed and forced to do it. Jurb's comments that
"White Men gave you your rights" is not what happened.

>
>and why should what some people did to or had done 
>to them before you were born have any relevance now?

The world certainly needs improving, and it's useful to understand how
we got where we are. Many of the forces are still in play.


-- 

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics 

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:15:41 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:

>Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
>> Den s&#4294967295;ndag den 18. september 2016 kl. 00.52.09 UTC+2 skrev John
>> Larkin:
>>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 20:17:43 -0700 (PDT), jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> You go right ahead, but we ain't taking no more shit.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Women, White Men gave you your rights.
>>>
>>> After thousands of years of taking them away.
>>
>> that was hardly limited to white or men
>>
>> and why should what some people did to or had done
>> to them before you were born have any relevance now?
>
>Looking up my name I found that some of the Italian aristocracy would 
>name their slaves "of the red" after the color of their coat of arms. 
>(So I'm a desendant of slaves and Obama is not, unless his family was 
>enslaved by Muslims.)  It doesn't matter to me.  In fact only 2 
>generations ago it wouldn't have mattered; if my grandfather had been 
>paid more it wouldn't make any difference to my bank account today.
>
>

Probably a majority of the world's population were slaves in the early
14th century. European peasants were essentially owned by their
landlords, and runaways were returned. Slavery was common in most of
the world. It took the plague in Europe, and the resulting labor
shortage, to begin to change things there.

My Irish ancestors were probably slaves to the British landowners. A
couple million Irish starved to death or emigrated as the British
continued to export cash crops from Ireland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)



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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics 

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 12:53:00 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>> I've stated before, I grew up in a mixed community, post WWII VA
>> housing, 1/2 acre minimum lots, heritage immaterial, always assisting
>> the black family two houses up rounding up their turkeys if it rained
>> ;-)
>
>Why can't turkeys get wet?
>
>

They _drown_ swallowing the rain... dumbest creatures (domesticated
turkeys) on the face of the earth ;-)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
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trustworthy in great ones; and the person who is dishonest in 
very small matters is also dishonest in great ones."
                                               -from Luke 16:19-31

On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:10:05 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

>On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 11:17:47 PM UTC-4, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> You go right ahead, but we ain't taking no more shit. 
>> 
>> 1. Women, White Men gave you your rights.
>> 
>> 2. Blacks, White Men gave you your rights.
>> 
>> I, a White Man am willing to die for your rights right now. 
>> 
>> Who would do the same for me ? 
>> 
>> T^T
>
>It's got nothing to do with skin color.  It has to do with ideas that
>happened to arise first in Europe, e.g. liberty & natural rights.
>
>You're confusing the power of ideas with pigmentation.
>
>The beauty of our system was that no one had to care about anyone's color
>or the cut of their jib, provided we each lived freely without harming
>anyone else.

That certainly wasn't true in 1850. Or in 1950. When I was a kid, no
black person (defined as 1/16th black or more) could eat in a white
restaurant, use a white drinking fountain, go to a white school or
university, or enter any of a number of professions, or live in a
white neighborhood. That produced a cultural isolation that exists
still.


>
>When the gov't starts harming you for your color, to benefit those of
>another, though, that's a horse of a different color.
>
>Therein's always the problem of governments getting involved in
>redistribution--they have to hurt some to benefit others, which
>sets peoples against each other.

In the South, segregation was unconstitutionally enforced by
government. There wasn't much redistribution going on.

The Great Society, of course, used racial preferences, and a little
bit of redistribution, to keep the black population isolated and
voting Democrat. That mechanism continues.






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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics