On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:52:30 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:>https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook > >It's probably not a good idea to buy a Tesla in a place that gets >below 0F. > >Some day a Tesla will freeze up and kill some people, with legal >consequences.This is interesting: https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/tesla-drivers-have-highest-accident-rate-study-says Over 2.5x the accident rate of some other cars. Is that caused by the car, the drivers, both? Probably drivers.
frozen Teslas
Started by ●January 16, 2024
Reply by ●January 18, 20242024-01-18
Reply by ●January 18, 20242024-01-18
The arsehole john larkin <jl@650pot.com> persisting in being an Off-topic troll... -- john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:> Path: not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 20:43:06 +0000 > From: john larkin <jl@650pot.com> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: Re: frozen Teslas > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 12:43:06 -0800 > Message-ID: <v53jqip70915bhbqfllji82l9f2em8unnj@4ax.com> > References: <ntcdqitb6p6h0gnip4c69e0crcld3rlseu@4ax.com> > User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Lines: 22 > X-Trace: sv3-iaUIX9K8cPBD9K5TgatBMNCslVN2e3x1URvo4UY5csOBN9BAt2XKFOzN36BHBQoKKA+9crIYclIMc0x!VnH5wx1Jxh4Ov+VLpNMYn32bVLP2ZBK9gkajvLAKrzCzvygnWLWFFQklfXi5iQfZ+HczmtgSYIES!FkjpCw== > X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html > X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly > X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 > Bytes: 1561 > X-Received-Bytes: 1761
Reply by ●January 18, 20242024-01-18
On 1/18/24 21:43, john larkin wrote:> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:52:30 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> > wrote: > >> https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook >> >> It's probably not a good idea to buy a Tesla in a place that gets >> below 0F. >> >> Some day a Tesla will freeze up and kill some people, with legal >> consequences. > > This is interesting: > > https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/tesla-drivers-have-highest-accident-rate-study-says > > Over 2.5x the accident rate of some other cars. > > Is that caused by the car, the drivers, both? Probably drivers.I wonder how much of that is due to the user interface. Modern cars have far too many gadgets. They pretend to "assist" driving, but in reality merely divert attention if they do not squarely interfere with it. Lately, my car has been warning me of "Limited visibility". What were they thinking? That I'm watching TV or something? Sheesh! Jeroen Belleman
Reply by ●January 18, 20242024-01-18
On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 00:09:58 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:>On 1/18/24 21:43, john larkin wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:52:30 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> >> wrote: >> >>> https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook >>> >>> It's probably not a good idea to buy a Tesla in a place that gets >>> below 0F. >>> >>> Some day a Tesla will freeze up and kill some people, with legal >>> consequences. >> >> This is interesting: >> >> https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/tesla-drivers-have-highest-accident-rate-study-says >> >> Over 2.5x the accident rate of some other cars. >> >> Is that caused by the car, the drivers, both? Probably drivers. > >I wonder how much of that is due to the user interface. Modern >cars have far too many gadgets. They pretend to "assist" driving, >but in reality merely divert attention if they do not squarely >interfere with it. > >Lately, my car has been warning me of "Limited visibility". What >were they thinking? That I'm watching TV or something? Sheesh! > >Jeroen BellemanI'm thinking that two kinds of people buy Teslas. Some love the insane acceleration and use it. Some are greenies who are fundamentally inept with the physics of driving. Both are dangerous.
Reply by ●January 18, 20242024-01-18
On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 7:43:23 AM UTC+11, john larkin wrote:> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:52:30 -0800, John Larkin <j...@997PotHill.com> > wrote: > > >https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook > > > >It's probably not a good idea to buy a Tesla in a place that gets > >below 0F. > > > >Some day a Tesla will freeze up and kill some people, with legal > >consequences. > This is interesting: > > https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/tesla-drivers-have-highest-accident-rate-study-says > > Over 2.5x the accident rate of some other cars. > > Is that caused by the car, the drivers, both? Probably drivers.https://www.lendingtree.com/insurance/brand-incidents-study/ is the study that that Fox News cited. Tesla's are sold as high-performance cars - as are Rams - so it is probably the drivers. Interestingly BMW drivers go in for driving while drunk at three times the rate of Tesla drivers (who had the lowest rate) , and at almost twice the rate of Ram drivers (who were the next worst). Audi drivers were about 20% worse than Tesla drivers. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●January 18, 20242024-01-18
On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 10:52:58 AM UTC+11, john larkin wrote:> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 00:09:58 +0100, Jeroen Belleman > <jer...@nospam.please> wrote: > > >On 1/18/24 21:43, john larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 08:52:30 -0800, John Larkin <j...@997PotHill.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook > >>> > >>> It's probably not a good idea to buy a Tesla in a place that gets > >>> below 0F. > >>> > >>> Some day a Tesla will freeze up and kill some people, with legal > >>> consequences. > >> > >> This is interesting: > >> > >> https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/tesla-drivers-have-highest-accident-rate-study-says > >> > >> Over 2.5x the accident rate of some other cars. > >> > >> Is that caused by the car, the drivers, both? Probably drivers. > > > >I wonder how much of that is due to the user interface. Modern > >cars have far too many gadgets. They pretend to "assist" driving, > >but in reality merely divert attention if they do not squarely > >interfere with it. > > > >Lately, my car has been warning me of "Limited visibility". What > >were they thinking? That I'm watching TV or something? Sheesh! > > I'm thinking that two kinds of people buy Teslas. Some love the insane > acceleration and use it. Some are greenies who are fundamentally inept > with the physics of driving. Both are dangerous.Why would greenies be inept with the physics of driving? They paid enough attention to their science classes to learn that anthroppogneic global warming is a real problem, which John Larkin never did. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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