Spice Simulators - ngspice v. ltspice ?

On 2023-12-21, Dan Purgert wrote:
> I've never used ltspice / circuit simulators before; though based on
> seeing posts to the group from various people seems it's something I
> might find useful (noting, of course, this is a hobby rather than
> something I get paid for).
>
> Looked it up, and seems ltspice is a windows/mac application, whereas
> the native equivalent on linux would be ngspice.  To avoid starting with
> one and switching because it's "bad" later on; has anyone used
> ngspice and found it a decent alternative to ltspice? 

Just following-up to myself to tie up the loose ends a bit -- thanks to
everyone giving their input; sounds like the general consensus is
LTSpice-on-WINE, so that's the route I'm gonna attempt to take
post-Christmas.


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Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
> On 2023-12-21, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> I've never used ltspice / circuit simulators before; though based on
>> seeing posts to the group from various people seems it's something I
>> might find useful (noting, of course, this is a hobby rather than
>> something I get paid for).
>>
>> Looked it up, and seems ltspice is a windows/mac application, whereas
>> the native equivalent on linux would be ngspice.  To avoid starting with
>> one and switching because it's "bad" later on; has anyone used
>> ngspice and found it a decent alternative to ltspice? 
> 
> Just following-up to myself to tie up the loose ends a bit -- thanks to
> everyone giving their input; sounds like the general consensus is
> LTSpice-on-WINE, so that's the route I'm gonna attempt to take
> post-Christmas.
> 
> 

While I use Ltspice with wine, input windows, e.g. to change the value
of some device, often loose focus. Simple clicking the input
windows does not bring back focus. To get back focus, I must click
some window unrelated to Wine/Ltspice and then click the iput
windows. This happens on several system.

Anybody else has this problem?
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Uwe Bonnes <bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-21, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> I've never used ltspice / circuit simulators before; though based on
>>> seeing posts to the group from various people seems it's something I
>>> might find useful (noting, of course, this is a hobby rather than
>>> something I get paid for).
>>> 
>>> Looked it up, and seems ltspice is a windows/mac application, whereas
>>> the native equivalent on linux would be ngspice.  To avoid starting with
>>> one and switching because it's "bad" later on; has anyone used
>>> ngspice and found it a decent alternative to ltspice? 
>> 
>> Just following-up to myself to tie up the loose ends a bit -- thanks to
>> everyone giving their input; sounds like the general consensus is
>> LTSpice-on-WINE, so that's the route I'm gonna attempt to take
>> post-Christmas.
>> 
>> 
> 
> While I use Ltspice with wine, input windows, e.g. to change the value
> of some device, often loose focus. Simple clicking the input
> windows does not bring back focus. To get back focus, I must click
> some window unrelated to Wine/Ltspice and then click the iput
> windows. This happens on several system.
> 
> Anybody else has this problem?

The only thing I notice is that you have to go ctl-enter to get a newline
in a dialogue box, rather than ctl-m.

Cheers 

Phil Hobbs 

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On 12/23/23 21:42, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> On 2023-12-21, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> I've never used ltspice / circuit simulators before; though based on
>>> seeing posts to the group from various people seems it's something I
>>> might find useful (noting, of course, this is a hobby rather than
>>> something I get paid for).
>>>
>>> Looked it up, and seems ltspice is a windows/mac application, whereas
>>> the native equivalent on linux would be ngspice.  To avoid starting with
>>> one and switching because it's "bad" later on; has anyone used
>>> ngspice and found it a decent alternative to ltspice?
>>
>> Just following-up to myself to tie up the loose ends a bit -- thanks to
>> everyone giving their input; sounds like the general consensus is
>> LTSpice-on-WINE, so that's the route I'm gonna attempt to take
>> post-Christmas.
>>
>>
> 
> While I use Ltspice with wine, input windows, e.g. to change the value
> of some device, often loose focus. Simple clicking the input
> windows does not bring back focus. To get back focus, I must click
> some window unrelated to Wine/Ltspice and then click the iput
> windows. This happens on several system.
> 
> Anybody else has this problem?

I get that sometimes, but it doesn't seem to be related to LTspice
or wine. I think it's a window manager bug. I use xfce. On an older
machine, running older versions of everything, this never happened.

It's irritating, but not enough to invest the time needed to find
and fix it. Still, damn 'upgrades'.

Jeroen Belleman