Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:> tirsdag den 5. december 2023 kl. 19.29.07 UTC+1 skrev john larkin: >> The agent8 kill filter >> >> message-id: googlegroups.com >> >> elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. > > I wonder if google has abandoned usenet, previous spam storms usually > stopped in a day or two > >>I guess it will >> eliminate some semi-legit posts. > > I use googlegroupsI use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam. There are 349 entries in my PLONK file, but most of them are years old. I should clean them out by erasing the file and starting over. I have tried most of the news clients and soon gave up on them. I am very happy with XNEWS -- MRM
killing google group posts
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Reply by ●December 5, 20232023-12-05
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:> The agent8 kill filter > > message-id: googlegroups.com > > elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will > eliminate some semi-legit posts.I spam reported over a 1,000 of those things from within google groups, they went back as far as mid-November. Google makes it real easy to do a group spam report for each 30-line page. You just select the whole page and then de-select the very small number of real posts, usually none, on the page. Then press report symbol. I thought it would clean up the display but it didn't. In place of the spam post they have an italicized message about why the post is hidden, so the display is still a wasteland. Also inadvertently discovered Google won't allow me to report my own post as spam. Must cause their report collection bot to flip out.
Reply by ●December 5, 20232023-12-05
On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid >>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote: >>> >>>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r >>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts. >>>> >>>> Works for me >>> >>> What usenet snobs we are! >> >> >> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters. >> >> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter >> >> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples >> explained pretty well. >> >> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something >> useful > > It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean constructive, well-informed or useful. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply by ●December 5, 20232023-12-05
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19 PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:> On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote: > > On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid > >>> <martin...@verison.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r > >>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts. > >>>> > >>>> Works for me > >>> > >>> What usenet snobs we are! > >> > >> > >> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters. > >> > >> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter > >> > >> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples > >> explained pretty well. > >> > >> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something > >> useful > > > > It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post. > Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean > constructive, well-informed or useful. > > -- > Bill Sloman, SydneyJust had to get another jab in, didn't ya?
Reply by ●December 5, 20232023-12-05
On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 5:12:03 PM UTC-6, Fred Bloggs wrote:> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote: > > The agent8 kill filter > > > > message-id: googlegroups.com > > > > elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will > > eliminate some semi-legit posts. > I spam reported over a 1,000 of those things from within google groups, they went back as far as mid-November. Google makes it real easy to do a group spam report for each 30-line page. You just select the whole page and then de-select the very small number of real posts, usually none, on the page. Then press report symbol. I thought it would clean up the display but it didn't. In place of the spam post they have an italicized message about why the post is hidden, so the display is still a wasteland.Yes, but it is much easier to pick out the listed posts you deselected, don't you think?> Also inadvertently discovered Google won't allow me to report my own post as spam. Must cause their report collection bot to flip out.
Reply by ●December 5, 20232023-12-05
On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 18:46:08 -0800 (PST), John Smiht <utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> wrote:>On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19?PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote: >> On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote: >> > On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid >> >>> <martin...@verison.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r >> >>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts. >> >>>> >> >>>> Works for me >> >>> >> >>> What usenet snobs we are! >> >> >> >> >> >> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters. >> >> >> >> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter >> >> >> >> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples >> >> explained pretty well. >> >> >> >> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something >> >> useful >> > >> > It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post. >> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean >> constructive, well-informed or useful. >> >> -- >> Bill Sloman, Sydney > >Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?It's clearly pathological. Sad. Just ignore him.
Reply by ●December 5, 20232023-12-05
john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:> It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to > post.A decent newsreader will allow you to do exactly this. Note, I don't know if ForteAgent has any of this, as I don't use it. A deceent newsreader implements "kill files" not as a binary "kill/keep" filter but rather as a scoring filter. New articles start out with an initial score (say zero points) and any "kill filters" they trigger subtract points, and any "select filters" they trigger add points. The net points value after all the matching kill/select filters have triggered then determines whether you see the article highlighted to draw your attention, as a normal new post, or hidden because you don't want to see it. So what you would do is add a general kill filter on the google groups User-Agent header, initially subtracting points from everything from google groups and hiding everything from google groups. Then you would add explicit "keep" (select) filters for user names (From: headers) for users from google groups that you do want to see, which would then "undo" the killing done by the general kill filter, but just for those users for which you added the explicit filters. The disadvantage is you have to already know which users you want to see and/or be on the lookout for others quoting users you did not see, and updating your rules to "expose" those users to your view.
Reply by ●December 5, 20232023-12-05
On 12/5/2023 6:06 PM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:> I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam. > >[...]Wait! You aren't seeing the 300 or so new daily garbage posts? Mostly eastern languages, although today was Roman alphabet. SED and RCM have been the most affected ones that I read. The ones with Subjects like: "✅MEGAHOKI88 | ✅MEGAHOKI88 ASIA | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LOGIN | ✅MEGAHOKI88 SLOT | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LINK ALTERNATIF | ✅LINK ALTERNATIF MEGAHOKI88 | ✅LINK MEGAHOKI88 LINK GACOR" It's easy enough to Select All (CTRL-A) & Ignore (K). Except for the few posts that are legitimate and have to be id'ed.
Reply by ●December 6, 20232023-12-06
On 2023-12-06 04:54, Bob Engelhardt wrote:> On 12/5/2023 6:06 PM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote: >> I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam. >> >> [...] > > Wait! You aren't seeing the 300 or so new daily garbage posts? Mostly eastern languages, although today was Roman alphabet. SED and RCM have been the most affected ones that I read. The ones with Subjects like: > "✅MEGAHOKI88 | ✅MEGAHOKI88 ASIA | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LOGIN | ✅MEGAHOKI88 SLOT | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LINK ALTERNATIF | ✅LINK ALTERNATIF MEGAHOKI88 | ✅LINK MEGAHOKI88 LINK GACOR" > > It's easy enough to Select All (CTRL-A) & Ignore (K). Except for the few posts that are legitimate and have to be id'ed.It depends on the provider. I tried the 'paid' KPN.nl (comes with my internet connection) which passes all spam. Now I use the free provider news.eternal-september.org which removes all the spam. Maybe also everything else posted through google groups - mostly clueless stuff anyway. Arie
Reply by ●December 6, 20232023-12-06
On 6/12/2023 1:46 pm, John Smiht wrote:> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19 PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote: >> On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote: >>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid >>>>> <martin...@verison.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r >>>>>>> The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Works for me >>>>> >>>>> What usenet snobs we are! >>>> >>>> >>>> Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters. >>>> >>>> https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter >>>> >>>> It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples >>>> explained pretty well. >>>> >>>> I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something >>>> useful >>> >>> It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post. >> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean >> constructive, well-informed or useful. > > Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?My mistake. Sadly, John Larkin, John Smiht and "a a" all appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean constructive, well-informed or useful. -- ' Bill Sloman, Sydney
