On Thu, 25 May 2023 13:09:12 -0700, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:>On 5/23/23 21:36, Anthony William Sloman wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 2:02:43?PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote: >>> https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/green-projects-hit-iron-wall >>> >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_High-Speed_Rail >>> >>> That was approved at $10 billion, is now projected at 105, and will >>> likely hit 250, if it's ever done. >>> >>> https://www.hoover.org/research/little-engine-couldnt-californias-high-speed-rail-costs-rise-200-million-mile >> >> The iron law is that if a bunch of right-wing nut cases write about a large government project, it is going to be one that has run into cost over-runs. >> >> Projects that are novel often turn out to be more complicated and expensive than expected. There's nothing novel about high speed rail links - Japan and France have been running them for decades now - but Americans aren't happy to accept that they should build a Chinese copy of something that is known to work and insist on inventing their own solution, which turns out to be more complicated and expensive than expected. The fact that France and Japan both have rather higher population densities than California is an additional complication. >> >heh, that's not fair. There are plenty of dense people in California, >centered around Sacramento it seems.Sure. Muscle is denser than fat.
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On Friday, May 26, 2023 at 7:55:08 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:> On Thu, 25 May 2023 13:09:12 -0700, wmartin <w...@wwmartin.net> wrote: > > >On 5/23/23 21:36, Anthony William Sloman wrote: > >> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 2:02:43?PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote: > >>> https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/green-projects-hit-iron-wall > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_High-Speed_Rail > >>> > >>> That was approved at $10 billion, is now projected at 105, and will > >>> likely hit 250, if it's ever done. > >>> > >>> https://www.hoover.org/research/little-engine-couldnt-californias-high-speed-rail-costs-rise-200-million-mile > >> > >> The iron law is that if a bunch of right-wing nut cases write about a large government project, it is going to be one that has run into cost over-runs. > >> > >> Projects that are novel often turn out to be more complicated and expensive than expected. There's nothing novel about high speed rail links - Japan and France have been running them for decades now - but Americans aren't happy to accept that they should build a Chinese copy of something that is known to work and insist on inventing their own solution, which turns out to be more complicated and expensive than expected. The fact that France and Japan both have rather higher population densities than California is an additional complication. > >> > >heh, that's not fair. There are plenty of dense people in California, > >centered around Sacramento it seems. > > Sure. Muscle is denser than fat.But thinks just as effectively. Meat-headed versus fat-headed. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney
