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150W Stirling Engine?

Started by Ed Lee April 8, 2023
On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 12:56:02 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote:
> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Those are chinese watts. If you get 10w out you'll have done remarkably well.
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:39:57 PM UTC-7, Tabby wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 12:56:02 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote: > > I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > Those are chinese watts. If you get 10w out you'll have done remarkably well.
Yes, 10W or 150W are still meaningless. What i want to know is how many W per gallon of fuel? For instance, we can usually get 5kwhr to 10kwhr per gallon of gasoline in ICE.
On Monday, 10 April 2023 at 05:47:32 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:39:57 PM UTC-7, Tabby wrote: > > On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 12:56:02 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote: > > > I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > Those are chinese watts. If you get 10w out you'll have done remarkably well. > Yes, 10W or 150W are still meaningless. What i want to know is how many W per gallon of fuel? For instance, we can usually get 5kwhr to 10kwhr per gallon of gasoline in ICE.
Stirlings are lousy efficiency
On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 4:00:53 PM UTC-7, Tabby wrote:
> On Monday, 10 April 2023 at 05:47:32 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote: > > On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:39:57 PM UTC-7, Tabby wrote: > > > On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 12:56:02 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > > > > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > > > > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > > Those are chinese watts. If you get 10w out you'll have done remarkably well. > > Yes, 10W or 150W are still meaningless. What i want to know is how many W per gallon of fuel? For instance, we can usually get 5kwhr to 10kwhr per gallon of gasoline in ICE. > Stirlings are lousy efficiency
"Compared to an internal combustion engine of the same power rating, Stirling engines currently have a higher capital cost and are usually larger and heavier. However, they are more efficient than most internal combustion engines.[" "In contrast to internal combustion engines, Stirling engines have the potential to use renewable heat sources more easily, and to be quieter and more reliable with lower maintenance." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine
On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 7:39:55 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 4:00:53 PM UTC-7, Tabby wrote: > > On Monday, 10 April 2023 at 05:47:32 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote: > > > On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 8:39:57 PM UTC-7, Tabby wrote: > > > > On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 12:56:02 UTC+1, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > > > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > > > > > > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > > > > > > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > > > Those are chinese watts. If you get 10w out you'll have done remarkably well. > > > Yes, 10W or 150W are still meaningless. What i want to know is how many W per gallon of fuel? For instance, we can usually get 5kwhr to 10kwhr per gallon of gasoline in ICE. > > Stirlings are lousy efficiency > "Compared to an internal combustion engine of the same power rating, Stirling engines currently have a higher capital cost and are usually larger and heavier. However, they are more efficient than most internal combustion engines.[" > > "In contrast to internal combustion engines, Stirling engines have the potential to use renewable heat sources more easily, and to be quieter and more reliable with lower maintenance." > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine
Stirling engines are more efficient than internal combustion engines: https://academic.oup.com/ijlct/article/11/2/141/2198425
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 4:56:02 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
That listing says nothing about 150 W, which is 1/5 hp. I doubt that this thing could put out 15 W, maybe 1.5 W.
On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:52:44 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 4:56:02 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: > > I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > . > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > That listing says nothing about 150 W, which is 1/5 hp. I doubt that this thing could put out 15 W, maybe 1.5 W.
It does say Wattage of 150W. Nobody believes it of course.
On 2023-04-09 16:23, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 4:30:45&#8239;AM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote: >> On 2023-04-08, Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 >>> >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? >> 150W input, perhaps 2 x 75W alcohol burners. > > They have a LED bulb in the picture (not sure if included). Typical LED bulb input is 20W.
That's a 3 W led in the photo. -- Cheers, Carlos.
On 2023-04-12 05:52, Flyguy wrote:
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 4:56:02&#8239;AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote: >> I want to try this emergency battery charger: >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 >> >> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? >> >> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
Easy start. Double power.
> > That listing says nothing about 150 W, which is 1/5 hp. I doubt that this thing could put out 15 W, maybe 1.5 W.
It also says "Compatible Control System: Motorola". -- Cheers, Carlos.
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:


> > [...] >>Stirlings are lousy efficiency
> > "Compared to an internal combustion engine of the same power rating, > > Stirling engines currently have a higher capital cost and are usually > > larger and heavier. However, they are more efficient than most internal > > combustion engines.[" > > > > "In contrast to internal combustion engines, Stirling engines have the > > potential to use renewable heat sources more easily, and to be quieter > > and more reliable with lower maintenance." > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine > > Stirling engines are more efficient than internal combustion engines: > https://academic.oup.com/ijlct/article/11/2/141/2198425
Philips achieved some astonishingly high efficiencies with their Stirling engines, as vehicle engines and as heat pumps. The articles are scattered throughout the Philips Technical Review, so they take ages to find. If Philips' management hadn't been so bad and shut down their manufacturing and research, they would now be in a position to make a killing with all the expertise they built up. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk