I want to try this emergency battery charger: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?
150W Stirling Engine?
Started by ●April 8, 2023
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version?Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the displacers). See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. -- ~ Liz Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote:> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, > so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the > displacers).Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around.> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of > their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also > ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines.Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote:> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 >>> >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? >>> >>> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? >> Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, >> so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the >> displacers). > > Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around. > >> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of >> their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also >> ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. > > Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days.https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote:> On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote: > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > >>> > >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > >>> > >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > >>> > >>> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > >> Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, > >> so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the > >> displacers). > > > > Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around. > > > >> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of > >> their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also > >> ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. > > > > Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days. > https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdfThanks. I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol. Officer: i am not drinking in the car, it's for the car.
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote: > > On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote: > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > > >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > >>> > > >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > >>> > > >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > >>> > > >>> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > >> Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, > > >> so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the > > >> displacers). > > > > > > Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around. > > > > > >> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of > > >> their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also > > >> ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. > > > > > > Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days. > > https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf > Thanks. > > I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol. >milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:> lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee: > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote: > > > On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > > > >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > >>> > > > >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > >>> > > > >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > >>> > > > >>> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > > >> Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, > > > >> so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the > > > >> displacers). > > > > > > > > Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around. > > > > > > > >> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of > > > >> their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also > > > >> ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. > > > > > > > > Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days. > > > https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf > > Thanks. > > > > I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol. > > > milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable powerYeah, most of them don't spec the output, except for my first link. If it's 150W LED, then it's probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > > lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee: > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote: > > > > On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > > > > >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > > > >> Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, > > > > >> so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the > > > > >> displacers). > > > > > > > > > > Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around. > > > > > > > > > >> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of > > > > >> their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also > > > > >> ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. > > > > > > > > > > Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days. > > > > https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf > > > Thanks. > > > > > > I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol. > > > > > milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power > Yeah, most of them don't spec the output, except for my first link. If it's 150W LED, then it's probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes.buy a box of AA batteries
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:> lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee: > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > > > lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee: > > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote: > > > > > On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > > > > > >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > > > > >> Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, > > > > > >> so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the > > > > > >> displacers). > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around. > > > > > > > > > > > >> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of > > > > > >> their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also > > > > > >> ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. > > > > > > > > > > > > Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days. > > > > > https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol. > > > > > > > milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power > > Yeah, most of them don't spec the output, except for my first link. If it's 150W LED, then it's probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes. > buy a box of AA batteriesI got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.
Reply by ●April 8, 20232023-04-08
lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.28.58 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > > lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 17.11.10 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee: > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:01:10 AM UTC-7, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote: > > > > lørdag den 8. april 2023 kl. 16.35.49 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee: > > > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:11:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Jones wrote: > > > > > > On 8/04/2023 10:37 pm, Ed Lee wrote: > > > > > > > On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 5:26:29 AM UTC-7, Liz Tuddenham wrote: > > > > > > >> Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> I want to try this emergency battery charger: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185836877680 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 150W output? Or do they mean 150W LED bulb? Perhaps 10W real output? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> What's the benefit of twin cylinders vs. the single cylinder version? > > > > > > >> Better balance = less vibration and noise. (In effect it is 2-stroke, > > > > > > >> so the two pistons can be 180-degrees out of phase and so can the > > > > > > >> displacers). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't care about vibration and noise for emergency, or running it when i am not around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> See "Philips Technical Review" for the full story of the development of > > > > > > >> their version of a Stirling engine that could power a lorry. They also > > > > > > >> ran them in reverse to make air-liquefying machines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links? Actually, i am going to feed it with vaporizing liquid (70% sanitizer). I got a few gallons to burn/dispose, which were obtained when it was HOT item back in the Covid days. > > > > > > https://www.pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/02_PEARL_Arch/Vol_16/Sec_53/Philips_Tech_Review/PTechReview-20-1958_59-245.pdf > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > I ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/203042859494 , which has integrated generator and look more solid in one piece. Just wondering how many Watts can i get out of a gallon of alcohol. > > > > > > > > > milliwatts until it wears out and falls apart, it is a toy to show how a sterling engine works, not make any kind of usable power > > > Yeah, most of them don't spec the output, except for my first link. If it's 150W LED, then it's probably 20W output. 5W to 10W for this would be fine. I just need a few seconds to jump start the 100W power relay, after charging for a few minutes. > > buy a box of AA batteries > I got boxes of 18650s, but sometimes nowhere to charge them. The sterling engine is probably lighter and take up less space.the sterling engine is heavier takes up more space, needs fuel making it even more heavy take up even more space , and in the end it isn't going to make any usable power
