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Started by John Larkin June 22, 2022
Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire;
it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on
the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0

The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work.

-- 

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, 
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
On 6/22/2022 8:20 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> > Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; > it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on > the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 > > The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. >
Looks like a cool board, the availability doesn't look so cool tho: <https://www.avnet.com/wps/portal/us/products/avnet-boards/avnet-board-families/microzed/>
On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 02:20:21 UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:
> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; > it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on > the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 > > The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. > > -- > > If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, > but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. > Francis Bacon
ask money back https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0&preview=P939A_ss_ugly.jpg
On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 17:27:47 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 02:20:21 UTC+2, John Larkin wrote: >> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; >> it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on >> the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 >> >> The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. >> >> -- >> >> If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, >> but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. >> Francis Bacon >ask money back > >https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0&preview=P939A_ss_ugly.jpg
That's the solder sample, nominally free. PCB houses always make a few extra boards to cover defects, and we just got one that they would have thrown away. One December, a PCB house called us and gave us a list of extra boards that they had around, extras left over from our various orders. They offered them half price, to fund their Christmas party. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 20:27:08 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 6/22/2022 8:20 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> >> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; >> it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on >> the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 >> >> The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. >> > >Looks like a cool board, the availability doesn't look so cool tho: > ><https://www.avnet.com/wps/portal/us/products/avnet-boards/avnet-board-families/microzed/>
We have a bunch in stock. Presumably this crunch will be over some day. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
On 6/22/2022 9:09 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 20:27:08 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 6/22/2022 8:20 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>> >>> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; >>> it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on >>> the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 >>> >>> The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. >>> >> >> Looks like a cool board, the availability doesn't look so cool tho: >> >> <https://www.avnet.com/wps/portal/us/products/avnet-boards/avnet-board-families/microzed/> > > We have a bunch in stock. Presumably this crunch will be over some > day. >
I've tended to rely on the microchip 8-bitters a lot in my work, and they've been really thin on the ground lately, particularly the parts with a luxurious 8k of Flash or more. Parts with 1k are readily available though which encourages creativity, sometimes by offloading a few functions to a SPLC or using two instead of one I've got my relatively low-volume jobs done to my client's satisfaction.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:07:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 6/22/2022 9:09 PM, John Larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 20:27:08 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 6/22/2022 8:20 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>> >>>> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; >>>> it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on >>>> the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 >>>> >>>> The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. >>>> >>> >>> Looks like a cool board, the availability doesn't look so cool tho: >>> >>> <https://www.avnet.com/wps/portal/us/products/avnet-boards/avnet-board-families/microzed/> >> >> We have a bunch in stock. Presumably this crunch will be over some >> day. >> > >I've tended to rely on the microchip 8-bitters a lot in my work, and >they've been really thin on the ground lately, particularly the parts >with a luxurious 8k of Flash or more. > >Parts with 1k are readily available though which encourages creativity, >sometimes by offloading a few functions to a SPLC or using two instead >of one I've got my relatively low-volume jobs done to my client's >satisfaction. >
We are considering a soft-core RiscV inside an efinix FPGA, sort of a poor-persons Zynq. Lots of applications need a cpu, but not much. -- Anybody can count to one. - Robert Widlar
On 6/23/2022 19:25, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:07:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: > >> On 6/22/2022 9:09 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 20:27:08 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/22/2022 8:20 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; >>>>> it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on >>>>> the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 >>>>> >>>>> The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Looks like a cool board, the availability doesn't look so cool tho: >>>> >>>> <https://www.avnet.com/wps/portal/us/products/avnet-boards/avnet-board-families/microzed/> >>> >>> We have a bunch in stock. Presumably this crunch will be over some >>> day. >>> >> >> I've tended to rely on the microchip 8-bitters a lot in my work, and >> they've been really thin on the ground lately, particularly the parts >> with a luxurious 8k of Flash or more. >> >> Parts with 1k are readily available though which encourages creativity, >> sometimes by offloading a few functions to a SPLC or using two instead >> of one I've got my relatively low-volume jobs done to my client's >> satisfaction. >> > > We are considering a soft-core RiscV inside an efinix FPGA, sort of a > poor-persons Zynq. Lots of applications need a cpu, but not much. > >
Isn't there a soft power architecture core meanwhile? Some time ago (a year or two) IBM made it "open". If available it might be a better option than risk-v or arm.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 22:05:24 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

>On 6/23/2022 19:25, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:07:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >> >>> On 6/22/2022 9:09 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 20:27:08 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/22/2022 8:20 PM, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; >>>>>> it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on >>>>>> the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looks like a cool board, the availability doesn't look so cool tho: >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avnet.com/wps/portal/us/products/avnet-boards/avnet-board-families/microzed/> >>>> >>>> We have a bunch in stock. Presumably this crunch will be over some >>>> day. >>>> >>> >>> I've tended to rely on the microchip 8-bitters a lot in my work, and >>> they've been really thin on the ground lately, particularly the parts >>> with a luxurious 8k of Flash or more. >>> >>> Parts with 1k are readily available though which encourages creativity, >>> sometimes by offloading a few functions to a SPLC or using two instead >>> of one I've got my relatively low-volume jobs done to my client's >>> satisfaction. >>> >> >> We are considering a soft-core RiscV inside an efinix FPGA, sort of a >> poor-persons Zynq. Lots of applications need a cpu, but not much. >> >> > >Isn't there a soft power architecture core meanwhile? Some time ago >(a year or two) IBM made it "open". If available it might be a better >option than risk-v or arm.
efinix has a risc-v block available. https://www.efinixinc.com/products-riscv.html A modest program could run in on-chip sram. I suspect that risc-v has a big future. It's free. -- If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts, but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon
torsdag den 23. juni 2022 kl. 21.35.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 22:05:24 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com> > wrote: > >On 6/23/2022 19:25, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:07:31 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >> > >>> On 6/22/2022 9:09 PM, John Larkin wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 20:27:08 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 6/22/2022 8:20 PM, John Larkin wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Got my boards today. We always ask for a "solder sample" to admire; > >>>>>> it's not guaranteed to be functional. This one has some ugly traces on > >>>>>> the bottom. Maybe they did that on purpose. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ias1388kbfrednn/AACsZ0p4dN4ez90yLFVCasl6a?dl=0 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The plugin MicroZed board does the hard work. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Looks like a cool board, the availability doesn't look so cool tho: > >>>>> > >>>>> <https://www.avnet.com/wps/portal/us/products/avnet-boards/avnet-board-families/microzed/> > >>>> > >>>> We have a bunch in stock. Presumably this crunch will be over some > >>>> day. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I've tended to rely on the microchip 8-bitters a lot in my work, and > >>> they've been really thin on the ground lately, particularly the parts > >>> with a luxurious 8k of Flash or more. > >>> > >>> Parts with 1k are readily available though which encourages creativity, > >>> sometimes by offloading a few functions to a SPLC or using two instead > >>> of one I've got my relatively low-volume jobs done to my client's > >>> satisfaction. > >>> > >> > >> We are considering a soft-core RiscV inside an efinix FPGA, sort of a > >> poor-persons Zynq. Lots of applications need a cpu, but not much. > >> > >> > > > >Isn't there a soft power architecture core meanwhile? Some time ago > >(a year or two) IBM made it "open". If available it might be a better > >option than risk-v or arm. > efinix has a risc-v block available. > > https://www.efinixinc.com/products-riscv.html > > A modest program could run in on-chip sram. > > I suspect that risc-v has a big future. It's free.
yep, so people can invest time and effort in it knowing that it's theirs to use for free forever