Seems to me that is an important question, no matter what alleged device protection there is. I would want to know what the highest INDIVIDUAL battery temperature is. I would want an alarm when any battery reaches X degrees. Doesn't matter how many batteries there are. The more batteries, the more important for the driver to know what's going on. I suppose they do not keep track of individual battery temperature, but maybe they should. I would want that. Too many batteries to keep track of? Then too risky.
OT: Do electric cars let you monitor INDIVIDUAL battery temperature?
Started by ●June 20, 2022
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
Off topic troll... -- John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:> Path: not-for-mail > From: John Doe <always.look@message.header> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: OT: Do electric cars let you monitor INDIVIDUAL battery temperature? > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 03:09:31 -0000 (UTC) > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Lines: 12 > Message-ID: <t8oodb$jl3$1@dont-email.me> > Injection-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 03:09:31 -0000 (UTC) > Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="1fd94f1ab3319182823e9a7cc17b0810"; logging-data="20131"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/kW6t4HSU9uYD1yxWt3KMwZFSvwBfvTWg=" > User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.05 > Cancel-Lock: sha1:3dRubR1cmnjuh8xhiSBpq8pxOno= > X-Received-Bytes: 1353 > > Seems to me that is an important question, no matter what alleged device > protection there is. > > I would want to know what the highest INDIVIDUAL battery temperature is. I > would want an alarm when any battery reaches X degrees. > > Doesn't matter how many batteries there are. The more batteries, the more > important for the driver to know what's going on. > > I suppose they do not keep track of individual battery temperature, but maybe > they should. I would want that. Too many batteries to keep track of? Then too > risky.
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing > except insults to this group.Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio to USENET (**) has been 62.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET. ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at least 1989 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and 1060 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings. The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 20 Jun 2022 03:16:50 GMT in message-id <CERrK.357724$%OV1.281696@usenetxs.com>. UMVFlEZUpR8r
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
On 6/19/22 20:16, John Doe wrote:> Off topic troll...The troll means cells, but doesn't know it. There needs to be a pie chart, with an appropriately colored slice of pie for each cell.
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 8:09:38 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:> Seems to me that is an important question, no matter what alleged device > protection there is.It's important, all right, so a battery diagnostic could show the effects. Individual cell temperatures, though, is hundreds of numbers, mainly about the same because the cells are thermally regulated (heated/cooled) in operation. When the vehicle is stationary, you'd just see temperature settling to ambient, and when it's moving, you have more important info (like children running into the road) than a thermometer reading on cell #225.
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
Some use 18650 batteries, or maybe 20/21. Apparently some beginning to use bigger batteries. Yes, you can call the whole thing a "battery", or a "cluster of cells/batteries" but in fact it's made up of a bunch of INDIVIDUAL batteries. Each battery is in its own individual package, therefore calling those individual batteries "batteries" is sensible. But seriously. This thing must be perpetually stoned/drunk... corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:> On 6/19/22 20:16, John Doe wrote: >> Off topic troll... > > The troll means cells, but doesn't know it. There needs to be a pie > chart, with an appropriately colored slice of pie for each cell. >
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:> John Doe wrote:>> Seems to me that is an important question, no matter what alleged >> device protection there is. > > It's important, all right, so a battery diagnostic could show the > effects. Individual cell temperatures, though, is hundreds of numbers, > mainly about the same because the cells are thermally regulated > (heated/cooled) in operation. > > When the vehicle is stationary, you'd just see temperature settling to > ambient, and when it's moving, you have more important info (like > children running into the road) than a thermometer reading on cell #225.Seems everybody else missed Flyguy's post... https://youtu.be/5r-yN8SugWM "An Electric Bus Caught Fire After Battery Explosion in Paris" What was that molten rain was, pouring down on both sides of the bus? Gotta be the best electric vehicle explosion video to date.
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
It's not a troll, and it's properly labeled "OT". We have a convention here on USENET. Most agree that off-topic posts are okay if they are properly labeled "OT". In any case, calling an "OT" post "off- topic" is REDUNDANT. John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:> Off topic troll... >
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t8oodb$jl3$1@dont-email.me:> Seems to me that is an important question, no matter what alleged > device protection there is. > > I would want to know what the highest INDIVIDUAL battery > temperature is. I would want an alarm when any battery reaches X > degrees. > > Doesn't matter how many batteries there are. The more batteries, > the more important for the driver to know what's going on. > > I suppose they do not keep track of individual battery > temperature, but maybe they should. I would want that. Too many > batteries to keep track of? Then too risky. >They are called cells. A group of cells is called a battery. It was always that way. Even a nine volt battery is a group of small cells. Individual cells like C cell or D cell or AA or AAA cell got called "battery" by idiots in the '60s and beyond until Webster finally "adopted" battery as meaning any DC power source. Another place where America's folks got the dumbed down version and now they are all that way. But in this case... These are individual cells arrayed together to form a battery. And individual cells can be and likey are temperature monitored but likely would not "let you monitor" it. It is internal. Part of the charge/discharge "watchdog" circuitry.
Reply by ●June 20, 20222022-06-20
John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t8p0hs$q7d$2@dont- email.me:> Yes, you can call the whole thing a "battery", or a "cluster of > cells/batteries" but in fact it's made up of a bunch of INDIVIDUAL > batteries.Individual CELLS. There is no such thing as an individual battery. The two terms are mutually exclusive. Bwuhahahahahhahahha!