Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 7:45:15 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote: >> Bill doesn't need to be censored, it needs to be blocked by anyone >> who doesn't want to be stalked. > > By which John Doe means that he wants to be free to post his > irrelevant nonsense in an inappropriate forum, but doesn't want me to > be able to post comments to the effect that it is nonsense in the > same forum. That's censorship, with him as the censor.Yep, free speech for me, but not for thee. Sadly, many censors, such as J.D.Troll, fail to see how their magic method is, more often than not, simply "free speech for me, but not for thee.">> That's why mutual blocking scares the hell out of Bill. > > Really? My take on it is that John Doe doesn't understand what he > means by "mutual blocking" beyond the idea that it gets informed > critics from being rude about his nonsense.To the extent to which J.D.Troll has described "mutual blocking" it very well may be that in J.D.Troll's mind "mutual blocking" is a magical Unicorn that will swoop in, sprinkle Unicorn urine all over everything, and magically make all of J.D.Troll's self-created issues go away.>> Mutual blocking would eliminate stalking and trolling, by allowing >> grown-ups to decide for themselves what they say and who they >> associate with. > > John Doe doesn't seem to have noticed that he's our prime exponent of > stalking and trolling.The noise level in the group would go down considerably if J.D.Troll would simply stop posting.
WTF is Russia Thinking?
Started by ●May 18, 2022
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com> wrote:> Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 7:45:15 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote: >>> Bill doesn't need to be censored, it needs to be blocked by anyone >>> who doesn't want to be stalked. >> >> By which John Doe means that he wants to be free to post his >> irrelevant nonsense in an inappropriate forum, but doesn't want me to >> be able to post comments to the effect that it is nonsense in the >> same forum. That's censorship, with him as the censor. > > Yep, free speech for me, but not for thee. Sadly, many censors, such > as J.D.Troll, fail to see how their magic method is, more often than > not, simply "free speech for me, but not for thee." > >>> That's why mutual blocking scares the hell out of Bill. >> >> Really? My take on it is that John Doe doesn't understand what he >> means by "mutual blocking" beyond the idea that it gets informed >> critics from being rude about his nonsense. > > To the extent to which J.D.Troll has described "mutual blocking" it > very well may be that in J.D.Troll's mind "mutual blocking" is a > magical Unicorn that will swoop in, sprinkle Unicorn urine all over > everything, and magically make all of J.D.Troll's self-created issues > go away. > >>> Mutual blocking would eliminate stalking and trolling, by allowing >>> grown-ups to decide for themselves what they say and who they >>> associate with. >> >> John Doe doesn't seem to have noticed that he's our prime exponent of >> stalking and trolling. > > The noise level in the group would go down considerably if J.D.Troll > would simply stop posting.Simpler - just PLONK those who respond to trolls. They usually have nothing of value to offer. If by chance they accidentally say something of interest, others will pick up on it and it will appear in their posts. If nothing shows up, you lose nothing and can go on peacefully with your work. -- MRM
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
Nope. Mutual blocking has nothing to do with prohibiting anybody from saying anything they want to say. It's about prohibiting stalker trolls from disrupting civil conversation between others. Mutual blocking allows people to say whatever they want to say, but stalker trolls cannot pester/stalk others by injecting their personal problems after every one of a victim's posts. Of course mutual blocking would apply equally to everybody, except those who cannot control themselves. In that sense, Yes, the stalker troll has a problem. Just like someone who cannot control their physical movements is not allowed to drive a car. If a person cannot act civilized, others should be allowed to exclude them from civil conversations. Some nym-shifting troll... -- Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com> wrote:> Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com> > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design > Subject: Re: OT: WTF is Russia Thinking? > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 18:45:09 -0000 (UTC) > Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server > Message-ID: <t6bbvl$nri$1@gioia.aioe.org> > References: <b1bb8603-ca19-41b7-8697-9f9a7a2d4475n@googlegroups.com> <f5303be2-6cdf-4f1d-9f8a-44ed022155c2n@googlegroups.com> <t68o9f$hf6$2@dont-email.me> <SxRhK.1528603$zX2.508019@usenetxs.com> <t68osb$hf6$4@dont-email.me> <LFRhK.2378012$2c1.2312391@usenetxs.com> <c7bf3e29-4710-4944-a2d8-fc99a1702d24n@googlegroups.com> <t6a3js$in8$11@dont-email.me> <81579dc6-070b-4aa9-9978-5f54bf763c63n@googlegroups.com> <t6acb3$hkf$1@dont-email.me> <bb3c9262-dfb0-4625-a64d-bf91ce986421n@googlegroups.com> > Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="24434"; posting-host="HQqjtrwtWYY0cW+c5n/Byw.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org"; > User-Agent: tin/2.0.1-20111224 ("Achenvoir") (UNIX) (Linux/3.10.17 (x86_64)) > X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2 > Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:669602 > > Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 7:45:15 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote: >>> Bill doesn't need to be censored, it needs to be blocked by anyone >>> who doesn't want to be stalked. >> >> By which John Doe means that he wants to be free to post his >> irrelevant nonsense in an inappropriate forum, but doesn't want me to >> be able to post comments to the effect that it is nonsense in the >> same forum. That's censorship, with him as the censor. > > Yep, free speech for me, but not for thee. Sadly, many censors, such > as J.D.Troll, fail to see how their magic method is, more often than > not, simply "free speech for me, but not for thee." > >>> That's why mutual blocking scares the hell out of Bill. >> >> Really? My take on it is that John Doe doesn't understand what he >> means by "mutual blocking" beyond the idea that it gets informed >> critics from being rude about his nonsense. > > To the extent to which J.D.Troll has described "mutual blocking" it > very well may be that in J.D.Troll's mind "mutual blocking" is a > magical Unicorn that will swoop in, sprinkle Unicorn urine all over > everything, and magically make all of J.D.Troll's self-created issues > go away. > >>> Mutual blocking would eliminate stalking and trolling, by allowing >>> grown-ups to decide for themselves what they say and who they >>> associate with. >> >> John Doe doesn't seem to have noticed that he's our prime exponent of >> stalking and trolling. > > The noise level in the group would go down considerably if J.D.Troll > would simply stop posting. >
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing > except insults to this group.Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to USENET (**) has been 60.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET. ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at least 1468 articles to USENET. Of which 153 have been pure insults and 737 have been John Doe "troll format" postings. The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on Sat, 21 May 2022 20:00:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t6bgd9$2he$1@dont-email.me>). NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam. This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters. 3tTpSzJWCFwA
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
This porn-sucking retard wants so badly to nym-shift. Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking... https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE See also... John Doe <always.look@message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org) Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com> Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com> Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked! Spanked Eddie... -- Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:> Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!193.141.40.65.MISMATCH!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx03.ams4.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: OT: WTF is Russia Thinking? > Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam > References: <b1bb8603-ca19-41b7-8697-9f9a7a2d4475n@googlegroups.com> <f5303be2-6cdf-4f1d-9f8a-44ed022155c2n@googlegroups.com> <t68o9f$hf6$2@dont-email.me> <SxRhK.1528603$zX2.508019@usenetxs.com> <t68osb$hf6$4@dont-email.me> <LFRhK.2378012$2c1.2312391@usenetxs.com> <c7bf3e29-4710-4944-a2d8-fc99a1702d24n@googlegroups.com> <t6a3js$in8$11@dont-email.me> <81579dc6-070b-4aa9-9978-5f54bf763c63n@googlegroups.com> <t6acb3$hkf$1@dont-email.me> <bb3c9262-dfb0-4625-a64d-bf91ce986421n@googlegroups.com> <t6bbvl$nri$1@gioia.aioe.org> <t6bgd9$2he$1@dont-email.me> > Lines: 40 > Message-ID: <sIbiK.2475239$Z91.976858@usenetxs.com> > X-Complaints-To: https://www.astraweb.com/aup > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 20:12:08 UTC > Date: Sat, 21 May 2022 20:12:08 GMT > X-Received-Bytes: 2519 > Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:669607 free.spam:18415 > > Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id > <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000 > (UTC): > >> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing >> except insults to this group. > > Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to > USENET (**) has been 60.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except > insults" to USENET. > > ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at > least 1468 articles to USENET. Of which 153 have been pure insults and > 737 have been John Doe "troll format" postings. > > The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id > <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>: > >> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post... > > And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id > <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>: > >> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from >> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is >> CLUELESS... > > And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly > formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on > Sat, 21 May 2022 20:00:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id > <t6bgd9$2he$1@dont-email.me>). > > NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam. > > This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups > readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even > follow the rules it uses to troll other posters. > > 3tTpSzJWCFwA > > >
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing > except insults to this group.Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio to USENET (**) has been 60.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET. ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at least 1470 articles to USENET. Of which 153 have been pure insults and 738 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings. The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from > breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is > CLUELESS...And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 21 May 2022 20:20:40 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t6bhio$2he$3@dont-email.me>. This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters. 9QU4E6vAAlAV
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
In sci.electronics.design John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:> Nope. Mutual blocking has nothing to do with prohibiting anybody > from saying anything they want to say. It's about prohibiting > stalker trolls from disrupting civil conversation between others.Then please explain, in more detail than by name only, how this magical Unicorn urine you call "mutual blocking" is supposed to work. If it actually has "nothing to do with prohibiting anybody from saying anything" then it also cannot prevent stalker trolls from saying anything. I.e., if it does not prohibit "anybody" (and "anybody" would include stalker trolls) then it can not block anything, thereby defeating the purpose of "prohibiting stalker trolls from disrupting". If, on the other hand, it prohibits (somehow) stalker trolls, then it cannot have "nothing to do with prohibiting anybody from saying anything" because it somehow prohibits the stalker trolls (who are in the set of users encompassed by "anybody").> Mutual blocking allows people to say whatever they want to say, but > stalker trolls cannot pester/stalk others by injecting their personal > problems after every one of a victim's posts.Then explain how that magical Unicorn urine you call mutual blocking will accomplish that goal, without also simultaneously censoring someone. All you have ever said is the name, and a magical Unicorn urine end result, with no detail of how the magical Unicorn urine achieves the supposed end result.
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
On 21/05/2022 5:09 pm, Anthony William Sloman wrote:> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 4:46:45 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote: >> Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote: >>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 3:32:28 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote: >>>> David Eather <eatREM...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >>>>> On 20/05/2022 8:36 pm, John Doe wrote: >>>>>> Too many holier-than-thou warmongers in the world... >>>>> >>>>> ah yes - impossible for you to provide ANY evidence of your worthless >>>>> claims and impossible for you to answer any questions that might show >>>>> Russia in a bad light. >>>> >>>> Too many filthy Australian trolls in the world... >>> >>> John Doe would prefer to be able to recycle his moronic propaganda to a group that was dim enough not to realise how utterly fatuous it is. >> >> This delusional Australian troll thinks it's everybody's poppa... > > John Doe isn't delusional. He recycles a lot of deluded right-wing propaganda, and is silly enough to think that anybody who can see that it is nonsense is deluded - as opposed to be being able to do critical thinking. > > His hypotheses about what's going on in other people minds are remarkably odd - it's not as if there' much going on in his own mind except a lot of inept cutting and pasting so he hasn't got a lot of prior information to work on. >you sure it is right wing propaganda? It sounds a lot like it was written by Putin - an agent of influence in the pay of Moscow.
Reply by ●May 21, 20222022-05-21
On 20/05/2022 8:56 pm, John Doe wrote:> In fact... The sanctions and sending weapons to Ukraine (causing Russia to > tear up Ukraine's railroads, causing Ukraine's massive wheat exports to > stop) will cause a whole lot more deaths than Russian troops can cause. > > Pumping Ukraine full of weapons is killing Ukrainians in order to enrich > the military-industrial complex, its stockholders, and its bribe takers. >No, Russian soldiers invading Ukraine are killing Ukrainians. Any delivered weapons would just sit in a warehouse unless the Ukrainians wanted the Russians gone. What part of Russia invaded Ukraine when it crossed the boarder don't you understand?
Reply by ●May 22, 20222022-05-22
On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 1:42:36 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 3:09:12 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 4:29:39 AM UTC-7, Edward Hernandez wrote: > <snip> > > > Hey Eddie, you AND SNIPPERMAN are the trolls on SED! > > Flyguy gets it wrong as usual. John Doe is the leading troll, and Flyguy isn't far behind. Eddie is an ant-troll, which is just a much a waste of banwidth, but at least he isn't malicious. > > -- > SNIPPERMAN, Sydney (if in Cambridge UK at the moment)Hell NO SNIPPERMAN - you an Eddie are blatant trolls, DEAL WITH IT! While you're at it, learn how to SPELL!!
