On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott >> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: >>> >>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92 >>>> MOSFET, >>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such. >>>> >>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor >>>> instead. >>>> >>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I know >>>> what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. Otherwise >>>> I'll probably trash it. >>>> >>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed: >>>> >>>> Si VN01 8209 >>>> >>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should never >>>> be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's there >>>> for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when >>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013 >>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse, >>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an output >>>> driver). >>> >>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to >>>what the parts really are. >>> >>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that make >>>circuit boards, complete with ICs. >> >> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well ?:-) > >8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741 op-amps.Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Mystery Part -- Si VN01?
Started by ●April 10, 2014
Reply by ●April 10, 20142014-04-10
Reply by ●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:02:27 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:>On 04/10/2014 01:54 PM, Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott >> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: >>> >>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92 >>>> MOSFET, >>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such. >>>> >>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor >>>> instead. >>>> >>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I know >>>> what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. Otherwise I'll >>>> probably trash it. >>>> >>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed: >>>> >>>> Si VN01 8209 >>>> >>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should never be >>>> used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's there for >>>> slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when simulation >>>> won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013 flip-flop >>>> pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse, but I forgot >>>> just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an output driver). >>> >>> Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to >>> what the parts really are. >>> >>> Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that make >>> circuit boards, complete with ICs. >> >> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well >> ?:-) >> >> ...Jim Thompson >> >Sure, at a writing rate of 1 transistor per minute. ;) > >Cheers > >Phil HobbsI can't imagine _anything_ needing as many as 20,000 transistors >:-} ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:04:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott > <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: > >>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott >>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92 >>>>> MOSFET, >>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such. >>>>> >>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor >>>>> instead. >>>>> >>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I >>>>> know what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. >>>>> Otherwise I'll probably trash it. >>>>> >>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed: >>>>> >>>>> Si VN01 8209 >>>>> >>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should >>>>> never be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's >>>>> there for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when >>>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013 >>>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse, >>>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an >>>>> output driver). >>>> >>>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to >>>>what the parts really are. >>>> >>>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that >>>>make circuit boards, complete with ICs. >>> >>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well >>> ?:-) >> >>8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741 >>op-amps. > > Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not > too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-(I don't think I've used a single 741 in a design that I've been paid for making -- not even in lab lashups. The 741 does what it does, but it always seems that there's a better chip for the particular job that isn't a 741. I do have some in a drawer. But then, I have some 1T4's in a drawer, too. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by ●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:24:24 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:04:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott >> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott >>>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92 >>>>>> MOSFET, >>>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such. >>>>>> >>>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor >>>>>> instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I >>>>>> know what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. >>>>>> Otherwise I'll probably trash it. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed: >>>>>> >>>>>> Si VN01 8209 >>>>>> >>>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should >>>>>> never be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's >>>>>> there for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when >>>>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013 >>>>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse, >>>>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an >>>>>> output driver). >>>>> >>>>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to >>>>>what the parts really are. >>>>> >>>>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that >>>>>make circuit boards, complete with ICs. >>>> >>>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well >>>> ?:-) >>> >>>8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741 >>>op-amps. >> >> Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not >> too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-( > >I don't think I've used a single 741 in a design that I've been paid for >making -- not even in lab lashups. > >The 741 does what it does, but it always seems that there's a better chip >for the particular job that isn't a 741.Well, considering that it's something like 45 years old, that isn't too surprising. I haven't used a 709 in that sort of time, either. ;-)>I do have some in a drawer. But then, I have some 1T4's in a drawer, too.OK, same deal. ;-)
Reply by ●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:02:51 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:48:53 +0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote: > >>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote: >>>>On 04/10/2014 11:42 AM, Tim Wescott wrote: >>>> >>>>> Si >>>>> VN01 >>>>> 8209 >>> >>> Win Hill, In 2008, responding to a question of mine, said that the >>> VN01 is a Supertex device, ~500mA capability. >> >>Hey... the VN01 is in AoE! Pages 122-123 in the 2nd edition. There is >>even a graph of Vgs vs Id: linear from 0.8 to 2 V at 1 nA to about >>50 mA, and then rising quickly: about 3 V at 100 mA and 8 V at 1 A. >> >>Matt Roberds > >Yep. Win Hill is still lurking. I recently posted my TLP191B Spice >model to the LTspice list, and Win responded that he liked it.... >apparently he's used the part on occasion. > > ...Jim ThompsonI'm still waiting for the next edition of AOE, wonder where he is on it. Cheers
Reply by ●April 11, 20142014-04-11
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:24:24 -0500, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:04:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: > >> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott >> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott >>>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92 >>>>>> MOSFET, >>>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such. >>>>>> >>>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor >>>>>> instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I >>>>>> know what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. >>>>>> Otherwise I'll probably trash it. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed: >>>>>> >>>>>> Si VN01 8209 >>>>>> >>>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should >>>>>> never be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's >>>>>> there for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when >>>>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013 >>>>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse, >>>>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an >>>>>> output driver). >>>>> >>>>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to >>>>>what the parts really are. >>>>> >>>>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that >>>>>make circuit boards, complete with ICs. >>>> >>>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well >>>> ?:-) >>> >>>8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741 >>>op-amps. >> >> Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not >> too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-( > >I don't think I've used a single 741 in a design that I've been paid for >making -- not even in lab lashups. > >The 741 does what it does, but it always seems that there's a better chip >for the particular job that isn't a 741. > >I do have some in a drawer. But then, I have some 1T4's in a drawer, too.Once upon a time... there was only 741's ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●April 11, 20142014-04-11
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:58:24 -0400, Martin Riddle <martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:02:51 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:48:53 +0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote: >> >>>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote: >>>>>On 04/10/2014 11:42 AM, Tim Wescott wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Si >>>>>> VN01 >>>>>> 8209 >>>> >>>> Win Hill, In 2008, responding to a question of mine, said that the >>>> VN01 is a Supertex device, ~500mA capability. >>> >>>Hey... the VN01 is in AoE! Pages 122-123 in the 2nd edition. There is >>>even a graph of Vgs vs Id: linear from 0.8 to 2 V at 1 nA to about >>>50 mA, and then rising quickly: about 3 V at 100 mA and 8 V at 1 A. >>> >>>Matt Roberds >> >>Yep. Win Hill is still lurking. I recently posted my TLP191B Spice >>model to the LTspice list, and Win responded that he liked it.... >>apparently he's used the part on occasion. >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >I'm still waiting for the next edition of AOE, wonder where he is on >it. > >CheersI've had no further response. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●April 12, 20142014-04-12
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:21:51 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:58:24 -0400, Martin Riddle ><martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote: > >>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:02:51 -0700, Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:48:53 +0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote: >>> >>>>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote: >>>>>>On 04/10/2014 11:42 AM, Tim Wescott wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Si >>>>>>> VN01 >>>>>>> 8209 >>>>> >>>>> Win Hill, In 2008, responding to a question of mine, said that the >>>>> VN01 is a Supertex device, ~500mA capability. >>>> >>>>Hey... the VN01 is in AoE! Pages 122-123 in the 2nd edition. There is >>>>even a graph of Vgs vs Id: linear from 0.8 to 2 V at 1 nA to about >>>>50 mA, and then rising quickly: about 3 V at 100 mA and 8 V at 1 A. >>>> >>>>Matt Roberds >>> >>>Yep. Win Hill is still lurking. I recently posted my TLP191B Spice >>>model to the LTspice list, and Win responded that he liked it.... >>>apparently he's used the part on occasion. >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>I'm still waiting for the next edition of AOE, wonder where he is on >>it. >> >>Cheers > >I've had no further response. > > ...Jim ThompsonThe wiki page for AOE seems to be kept uptodate. From the eevblog forum post its probably in typesetting now. A spring 2014 release is expected. That was in Sept of 2013. And then a follow up x chapter book a year later. I guess they want to get a book out soon. Cheers
