On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 21:21:51 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:58:24 -0400, Martin Riddle
><martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:02:51 -0700, Jim Thompson
>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:48:53 +0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On 04/10/2014 11:42 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Si
>>>>>>> VN01
>>>>>>> 8209
>>>>>
>>>>> Win Hill, In 2008, responding to a question of mine, said that the
>>>>> VN01 is a Supertex device, ~500mA capability.
>>>>
>>>>Hey... the VN01 is in AoE! Pages 122-123 in the 2nd edition. There is
>>>>even a graph of Vgs vs Id: linear from 0.8 to 2 V at 1 nA to about
>>>>50 mA, and then rising quickly: about 3 V at 100 mA and 8 V at 1 A.
>>>>
>>>>Matt Roberds
>>>
>>>Yep. Win Hill is still lurking. I recently posted my TLP191B Spice
>>>model to the LTspice list, and Win responded that he liked it....
>>>apparently he's used the part on occasion.
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>I'm still waiting for the next edition of AOE, wonder where he is on
>>it.
>>
>>Cheers
>
>I've had no further response.
>
> ...Jim Thompson
The wiki page for AOE seems to be kept uptodate.
From the eevblog forum post its probably in typesetting now. A spring
2014 release is expected. That was in Sept of 2013.
And then a follow up x chapter book a year later. I guess they want to
get a book out soon.
Cheers
Reply by Jim Thompson●April 11, 20142014-04-11
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:58:24 -0400, Martin Riddle
<martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:02:51 -0700, Jim Thompson
><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:48:53 +0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
>>
>>>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 04/10/2014 11:42 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Si
>>>>>> VN01
>>>>>> 8209
>>>>
>>>> Win Hill, In 2008, responding to a question of mine, said that the
>>>> VN01 is a Supertex device, ~500mA capability.
>>>
>>>Hey... the VN01 is in AoE! Pages 122-123 in the 2nd edition. There is
>>>even a graph of Vgs vs Id: linear from 0.8 to 2 V at 1 nA to about
>>>50 mA, and then rising quickly: about 3 V at 100 mA and 8 V at 1 A.
>>>
>>>Matt Roberds
>>
>>Yep. Win Hill is still lurking. I recently posted my TLP191B Spice
>>model to the LTspice list, and Win responded that he liked it....
>>apparently he's used the part on occasion.
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>I'm still waiting for the next edition of AOE, wonder where he is on
>it.
>
>Cheers
I've had no further response.
...Jim Thompson
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Reply by Jim Thompson●April 11, 20142014-04-11
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:24:24 -0500, Tim Wescott
<tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:04:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott
>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott
>>>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92
>>>>>> MOSFET,
>>>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I
>>>>>> know what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource.
>>>>>> Otherwise I'll probably trash it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Si VN01 8209
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should
>>>>>> never be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's
>>>>>> there for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when
>>>>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013
>>>>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse,
>>>>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an
>>>>>> output driver).
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to
>>>>>what the parts really are.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that
>>>>>make circuit boards, complete with ICs.
>>>>
>>>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well
>>>> ?:-)
>>>
>>>8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741
>>>op-amps.
>>
>> Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not
>> too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-(
>
>I don't think I've used a single 741 in a design that I've been paid for
>making -- not even in lab lashups.
>
>The 741 does what it does, but it always seems that there's a better chip
>for the particular job that isn't a 741.
>
>I do have some in a drawer. But then, I have some 1T4's in a drawer, too.
Once upon a time... there was only 741's
...Jim Thompson
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Reply by Martin Riddle●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:02:51 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:48:53 +0000 (UTC), mroberds@att.net wrote:
>
>>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:
>>>>On 04/10/2014 11:42 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Si
>>>>> VN01
>>>>> 8209
>>>
>>> Win Hill, In 2008, responding to a question of mine, said that the
>>> VN01 is a Supertex device, ~500mA capability.
>>
>>Hey... the VN01 is in AoE! Pages 122-123 in the 2nd edition. There is
>>even a graph of Vgs vs Id: linear from 0.8 to 2 V at 1 nA to about
>>50 mA, and then rising quickly: about 3 V at 100 mA and 8 V at 1 A.
>>
>>Matt Roberds
>
>Yep. Win Hill is still lurking. I recently posted my TLP191B Spice
>model to the LTspice list, and Win responded that he liked it....
>apparently he's used the part on occasion.
>
> ...Jim Thompson
I'm still waiting for the next edition of AOE, wonder where he is on
it.
Cheers
Reply by ●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:24:24 -0500, Tim Wescott
<tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:04:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott
>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott
>>>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92
>>>>>> MOSFET,
>>>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I
>>>>>> know what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource.
>>>>>> Otherwise I'll probably trash it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Si VN01 8209
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should
>>>>>> never be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's
>>>>>> there for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when
>>>>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013
>>>>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse,
>>>>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an
>>>>>> output driver).
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to
>>>>>what the parts really are.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that
>>>>>make circuit boards, complete with ICs.
>>>>
>>>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well
>>>> ?:-)
>>>
>>>8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741
>>>op-amps.
>>
>> Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not
>> too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-(
>
>I don't think I've used a single 741 in a design that I've been paid for
>making -- not even in lab lashups.
>
>The 741 does what it does, but it always seems that there's a better chip
>for the particular job that isn't a 741.
Well, considering that it's something like 45 years old, that isn't
too surprising. I haven't used a 709 in that sort of time, either.
;-)
>I do have some in a drawer. But then, I have some 1T4's in a drawer, too.
OK, same deal. ;-)
Reply by Tim Wescott●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:04:37 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott
> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott
>>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92
>>>>> MOSFET,
>>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such.
>>>>>
>>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor
>>>>> instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I
>>>>> know what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource.
>>>>> Otherwise I'll probably trash it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed:
>>>>>
>>>>> Si VN01 8209
>>>>>
>>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should
>>>>> never be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's
>>>>> there for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when
>>>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013
>>>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse,
>>>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an
>>>>> output driver).
>>>>
>>>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to
>>>>what the parts really are.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that
>>>>make circuit boards, complete with ICs.
>>>
>>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well
>>> ?:-)
>>
>>8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741
>>op-amps.
>
> Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not
> too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-(
I don't think I've used a single 741 in a design that I've been paid for
making -- not even in lab lashups.
The 741 does what it does, but it always seems that there's a better chip
for the particular job that isn't a 741.
I do have some in a drawer. But then, I have some 1T4's in a drawer, too.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
Reply by Jim Thompson●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:02:27 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>On 04/10/2014 01:54 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott
>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92
>>>> MOSFET,
>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such.
>>>>
>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor
>>>> instead.
>>>>
>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I know
>>>> what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. Otherwise I'll
>>>> probably trash it.
>>>>
>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed:
>>>>
>>>> Si VN01 8209
>>>>
>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should never be
>>>> used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's there for
>>>> slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when simulation
>>>> won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013 flip-flop
>>>> pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse, but I forgot
>>>> just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an output driver).
>>>
>>> Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to
>>> what the parts really are.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that make
>>> circuit boards, complete with ICs.
>>
>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well
>> ?:-)
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>Sure, at a writing rate of 1 transistor per minute. ;)
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs
I can't imagine _anything_ needing as many as 20,000 transistors >:-}
...Jim Thompson
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Reply by Jim Thompson●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:58:01 -0500, Tim Wescott
<tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott
>> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92
>>>> MOSFET,
>>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such.
>>>>
>>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor
>>>> instead.
>>>>
>>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I know
>>>> what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. Otherwise
>>>> I'll probably trash it.
>>>>
>>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed:
>>>>
>>>> Si VN01 8209
>>>>
>>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should never
>>>> be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's there
>>>> for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when
>>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013
>>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse,
>>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an output
>>>> driver).
>>>
>>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to
>>>what the parts really are.
>>>
>>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that make
>>>circuit boards, complete with ICs.
>>
>> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well ?:-)
>
>8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741 op-amps.
Used many a 741 in my hybrid days at Dickson Electronics. Really not
too bad of an OpAmp. Then there was the 709 :-(
...Jim Thompson
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Reply by Phil Hobbs●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On 04/10/2014 01:54 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott
> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>
>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92
>>> MOSFET,
>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such.
>>>
>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor
>>> instead.
>>>
>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I know
>>> what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. Otherwise I'll
>>> probably trash it.
>>>
>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed:
>>>
>>> Si VN01 8209
>>>
>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should never be
>>> used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's there for
>>> slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when simulation
>>> won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013 flip-flop
>>> pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse, but I forgot
>>> just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an output driver).
>>
>> Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to
>> what the parts really are.
>>
>> Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that make
>> circuit boards, complete with ICs.
>
> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well
> ?:-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>
Sure, at a writing rate of 1 transistor per minute. ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
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Reply by Tim Wescott●April 10, 20142014-04-10
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:54:58 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:51:33 -0500, Tim Wescott
> <tim@seemywebsite.really> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:42:09 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
>>
>>> I was digging through le junque bocs yesterday looking for a TO-92
>>> MOSFET,
>>> and found a bag of what I dimly remember as being such.
>>>
>>> But my memory is too dim, and I used a PN2222 with a base resistor
>>> instead.
>>>
>>> So before I throw these out, can anyone recognize the part? If I know
>>> what it is I can mark the bag and have it as a resource. Otherwise
>>> I'll probably trash it.
>>>
>>> It's a TO-92 package, has three lines printed:
>>>
>>> Si VN01 8209
>>>
>>> It's probably some horribly obsolete Siliconx thing that should never
>>> be used for design, but le junque bocs isn't for that -- it's there
>>> for slapping together some quick thing for an experiment when
>>> simulation won't do, or for a lab setup (yesterday it was an MC14013
>>> flip-flop pretending to be a 2:1 gear reduction from an index pulse,
>>> but I forgot just how wimpy 4000 series CMOS is, so I needed an output
>>> driver).
>>
>>Thanks guys. Bag is back with the transistor stash, with a note as to
>>what the parts really are.
>>
>>Maybe I'll actually use one before we can just get 3D printers that make
>>circuit boards, complete with ICs.
>
> Smirk... I want one of those. Will they do microprocessors as well ?:-)
8051's, of course. And their example library will only have 741 op-amps.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com