Twisted Pair

On Friday, 13 December 2013 19:51:57 UTC+11, John Devereux  wrote:
> Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> writes:
> > On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:32:13 -0800 (PST), George Herold
> > <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:=20
> >>On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:29:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 12 December 2013 04:43:34 UTC+11, George Herold  wrote:=
=20
> >> =20
> >><snip>=20
> >>
> >>> > Re puns:  For those sci-fi types that enjoy puns check out  =20
> >>>=20
> >>> > "Callahans Crosstime Saloon" by Spider Robinson.   =20
> >>> =20
> >>> > (later volumes in the series move from the bar to a "cathouse", and=
 get a little more racy.)=20
> >>> =20
> >>> I never could understand why Analog Science Fact and Fiction publishe=
d Spider Robinson's stuff. Even by the depressing standards of hard science=
 fiction it was tediously contentless.=20
> >>=20
> >>Do you mean science content?  If so I'll agree, plenty of human content=
 though.  You probably don't like Theodore Sturgeon either then.  No hard s=
cience, plenty of emotion/love.  "Need" may be my favorite short story.  (M=
y fiction reading has taken a big detour into Sturgeon lately.)=20
>=20
> I liked Spider Robinsons stuff too, subscribed to Analog (ha - on topic)
for a couple of decades until recently.

I don't think that John W Campbell's "Analog" had much to do with analog co=
mputer circuits. It just started with an "A" just like the "Astounding" tha=
t it replaced, and sounded vaguely technical.

> >>> I stopped subscribing to Analog around the time Spider Robinson becam=
e a regular contributor, after being a faithful subscriber from the late 19=
50's.

> > Does anyone care what Slowman subscribes to or not?
> =20
> Why not, you get to tell everyone about your chandelier, what
temperature it is outside your house today, what you are having for tea ton=
ight etc etc.
> =20
> > Must be a sad life, being so sour in your old age.
> =20
> You tell us :)

He does, pretty much non-stop. But he's been posting here for longer than I=
 have, and only the good die young - Tony Williams comes to mind.

--=20
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 08:51:57 +0000, John Devereux
<john@devereux.me.uk> wrote:

>Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> writes:
>
>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:32:13 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>> <gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:29:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 12 December 2013 04:43:34 UTC+11, George Herold  wrote:
>>>> 
>>><snip>
>>>> > Re puns:  For those sci-fi types that enjoy puns check out  
>>>> 
>>>> > "Callahans Crosstime Saloon" by Spider Robinson.   
>>>> 
>>>> > (later volumes in the series move from the bar to a "cathouse", and get a little more racy.)
>>>> 
>>>> I never could understand why Analog Science Fact and Fiction
>>>> published Spider Robinson's stuff. Even by the depressing standards
>>>> of hard science fiction it was tediously contentless.
>>>
>>>Do you mean science content?  If so I'll agree, plenty of human
>>> content though.  You probably don't like Theodore Sturgeon either
>>> then.  No hard science, plenty of emotion/love.  "Need" may be my
>>> favorite short story.  (My fiction reading has taken a big detour
>>> into Sturgeon lately.)
>
>I liked Spider Robinsons stuff too, subscribed to Analog (ha - on topic)
>for a couple of decades until recently.
>
>>>
>>>George H.
>>>> 
>>>> I stopped subscribing to Analog around the time Spider Robinson
>>>> became a regular contributor, after being a faithful subscriber
>>>> from the late 1950's.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> Bill Sloman, Sydney
>>
>> Does anyone care what Slowman subscribes to or not?
>
>Why not, you get to tell everyone about your chandelier, what
>temperature it is outside your house today, what you are having for tea
>tonight etc etc.
>
>> Must be a sad life, being so sour in your old age.
>
>You tell us :)

I may be feisty, but certainly no sourpuss.  This time of year I walk
thru the grocery and little kids ask if I'm Santa... even though my
beard is certainly not long, it _is_ very white ;-)
		
                                        ...Jim Thompson
-- 
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| Analog Innovations                               |     et      |
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| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142   Skype: Contacts Only  |             |
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  |
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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:27:19 PM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On Friday, 13 December 2013 08:32:13 UTC+11, George Herold  wrote:=20
> > On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:29:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 12 December 2013 04:43:34 UTC+11, George Herold  wrote:=
=20
> > > =20
> > <snip>=20
> > >
> > > > Re puns:  For those sci-fi types that enjoy puns check out  =20
> > > > "Callahans Crosstime Saloon" by Spider Robinson.   =20
> > > > (later volumes in the series move from the bar to a "cathouse", and=
 get a little more racy.)
> > > I never could understand why Analog Science Fact and Fiction publishe=
d Spider Robinson's stuff. Even by the depressing standards of hard science=
 fiction it was tediously contentless. =20
> > =20
> > Do you mean science content?  If so I'll agree, plenty of human content=
 though.  You probably don't like Theodore Sturgeon either then.  No hard s=
cience, plenty of emotion/love.  "Need" may be my favorite short story.  (M=
y fiction reading has taken a big detour into Sturgeon lately.)
>=20
> Spider Robinson wasn't into human content, unless you count boiler-plate =
sloppy sentimentality as "human content".
>
I guess I'm not that discriminating when it comes to fiction. =20
Boiler plate is fine as long as I'm sucked into the story.  =20
>=20
>=20
> Theodore Sturgeon is a lot further up my pecking order. He was one of my =
favourite authors back in the 1960's though I went off him a bit as I got o=
lder.

Hmm I'm finding Sturgeon more relevant the older I get. =20
He writes mostly about love, and perhaps I wasn't mature enough in my youth=
.  I reread "Godbody" a few weeks ago. =20
That struck a cord in me. =20
But I'm afraid to recommend to anyone.  Rather explicit sex scenes, some a =
little disturbing, and the title character is a reincarnation of Jesus whic=
h I'm afraid might disturb my more religious friends. =20

     =20
>=20
> He's below people like James Blish, Fritz Leiber, Pohl and Kornbluth, Poh=
l on his own, Larry Niven, Ian M Banks, Charles Stross and Ken MacLeod.
>=20
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_MacLeod
>=20
> Of course, a large part of Ken McLeod's appeal is that he isn't quite as =
right wing as regular science fiction, which is biased to appeal to the Ame=
rican market. I mainly liked Fritz Leiber for "The Silver Eggheads", which =
is more satirical than most of the stuff he wrote, though "Conjure Wife" ca=
me close.

Interesting Thanks,  I only really know Pohl and Niven from your list.  I w=
ill read almost anything...

Hmm, just thinking out loud, maybe my tombstone should read.
"He read what was set before him"=20

George H.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > > I stopped subscribing to Analog around the time Spider Robinson becam=
e a regular contributor, after being a faithful subscriber from the late 19=
50's.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -- =20
>=20
> Bill Sloman, Sydney

In article <e4d1c94d-062d-4d5a-9245-6c3624c68e29@googlegroups.com>, 
bill.sloman@gmail.com says...
> >  
> > Hilarious!
> 
> Sarcasm. And cheap sarcasm at that, since you didn't specify what specifically you were being sarcastic about. 
> 
> I started my post with an incomplete quotation. A more complete quote is "Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now. Never contradict. Never explain. Never apologise.?
> 
> Using it in this context was intentionally funny. I'm not altogether surprised that you didn't get that particular joke. Even John Woodgate might have missed it.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 

 Have you ever gotten the idea that your neurons use a different 
protocol than the majority that come here?

 Just and honest question, really!

Jamie

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 05:34:27 -0800, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
<DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:53:11 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
><bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:
>
>>On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 20:35:37 UTC+11, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno  wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:00:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman 
>>> <bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us
>>
>><snip - not mine, but our Decadent Linux User has snipped a lot
>> of context, and failed to mark the snip.
>
>  Whoopie doo, you retarded piece of shit.  LEARN how to make a proper
>post in Usenet or FUCK OFFR AND DIE, JACKASS!
>
>> For anybody with a taste for flame wars, he's been trying to convince us
>
>Multiple personality disorder much, jackass?
>
>> that he's been posting since around 1995,
>
>  I am not "trying to convince anyone of anything, you retarded piece of
>shit.  Everyone in the group, short of total dumbfucks like you, knows
>exactly "who I am".
>
>> without telling us who he was
>
>  Waaaah...  pussy can't do basic Usenet research, so he can "make a
>netkkkop complaint".  You are transparent, SloTard.
>
>> posting as back then. I had a browse though December 1996 earlier
>> today, and couldn't come up with any likely candidates.>
>
>  Probably due to your inane inability to do damn near anything.
>You probably have someone wipe your ass for you.  Are you also morbidly
>obese?  I'd bet yes.
>
>>  "Without telling us"?
>
>  You are an idiot SloTard.  If you haven't noticed, you have never been
>a part of the "us" making up this group.  You have ALWAYS been a
>parasite, and right now, you are pretty fucking full of your retarded
>self.
>
>  But still no part of ANY "US" other than your multiple personality
>disorder, perhaps.
>
>  Nice long line AGAIN there too, dumbfucktard.
>
>>> >Sure. The most likely hypothesis is that you weren't even born back then. 
>>> > 
>>>   That is why folks here place ZERO credence in ANY of your pathetic attempts at making hypotheses. 
>>
>>That does sound like the sort of output you'd expect from a 12-year-old. 
>
>  You are so fucking stupid, you have no clue what kids these days are
>like.  You are a pathetic little worm, and nothing more.
>
>  Worm off, back into your corner where there are no 555 timer chips.
>Go display your mental masturbation in some lame social group, dipshit.
>
>  You're a fucking joke.
>
>>>   Your logic is planted firmly at nil.
>>
>>Interesting use of the word "logic" - consistent with the kind of mistake a 12-year-old would make.
>
>  You ain't real bright, boy.


It sure looks like we have a "twisted pair" communicating here.


-- 

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http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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On Saturday, 14 December 2013 09:37:39 UTC+11, John Larkin  wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 05:34:27 -0800, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno 
> <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:
> >On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:53:11 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
> ><bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:  
> >>On Tuesday, 10 December 2013 20:35:37 UTC+11, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno  wrote: 
> >>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:00:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman  
> >>> <bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us 
> >>
> >><snip - not mine, but our Decadent Linux User has snipped a lot
> >> of context, and failed to mark the snip.

<snip>
 
> >> For anybody with a taste for flame wars, he's been trying to convince us   that he's been posting since around 1995, 
> > 
> >  I am not "trying to convince anyone of anything, you retarded piece of shit.  Everyone in the group, short of total dumbfucks like you, knows exactly "who I am".

We know what you are, but "who" is less certain. 

> >> without telling us who he was 
> > 
> >  Waaaah...  pussy can't do basic Usenet research, so he can "make a
netkkkop complaint".  You are transparent, SloTard.

Your history does seem to be full of such complaints. I don't bother making them - it's a waste of time, since the offender always reappears with a new pseudonym.
 
> >> posting as back then. I had a browse though December 1996 earlier today, and couldn't come up with any likely candidates. 
> > 
> >  Probably due to your inane inability to do damn near anything.You probably have someone wipe your ass for you.  Are you also morbidlyobese?  I'd bet yes.

You'd lose, but you are used to that.

> >>  "Without telling us"? 
> >
> >  You are an idiot SloTard.  If you haven't noticed, you have never been a part of the "us" making up this group.  You have ALWAYS been a parasite, and right now, you are pretty fucking full of your retarded self.

An interesting and revealing point of view. You, of course, have always been an integral part of group, and your contributions are widely lauded.
 
> >  But still no part of ANY "US" other than your multiple personality disorder, perhaps.

A unique perception. I wonder which one of my multiple personalities he perceives to be responding here. Someone who posts under a variety of names does make this sort of classification easier. 
 
> >  Nice long line AGAIN there too, dumbfucktard.

Your unsophisticated assertions can mostly be fitted into 80 characters.

> >>> >Sure. The most likely hypothesis is that you weren't even born back then.  
> >>> > 
> >>>   That is why folks here place ZERO credence in ANY of your pathetic attempts at making hypotheses. 
> >>
> >>That does sound like the sort of output you'd expect from a 12-year-old. 
> >
> >  You are so fucking stupid, you have no clue what kids these days are
like.  You are a pathetic little worm, and nothing more.

A 12-year-old with a tendency to tantrums.

> >  Worm off, back into your corner where there are no 555 timer chips.
Go display your mental masturbation in some lame social group, dipshit.

I don't object to 555 timer chips. I've just got reservations about people who still use them.
 
> >  You're a fucking joke.

It takes one to know one.

> >>>   Your logic is planted firmly at nil.
> >> 
> >>Interesting use of the word "logic" - consistent with the kind of mistake a 12-year-old would make.
> > 
> >  You ain't real bright, boy.

That's a pretty exact paraphrase of my line.
 
> It sure looks like we have a "twisted pair" communicating here.

There's not a lot of communication going on. He's vituperating, and I'm baiting him. He may yet blow an artery, though this is rare in 12-year-olds.

He might have been altavoz@azstarnet.com from 1996 but that identity didn't start posting here until June 1996, and our half-wit claims to have been posting earlier, so some 12-year-old does seem to be the likelier hypothesis.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

George Herold wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:29:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Sloman wrote:
> ? On Thursday, 12 December 2013 04:43:34 UTC+11, George Herold  wrote:
> ?
> ?snip?
> ? ? Re puns:  For those sci-fi types that enjoy puns check out
> ?
> ? ? "Callahans Crosstime Saloon" by Spider Robinson.
> ?
> ? ? (later volumes in the series move from the bar to a "cathouse", and get a little more racy.)
> ?
> ? I never could understand why Analog Science Fact and Fiction published Spider Robinson's stuff. Even by the depressing standards of hard science fiction it was tediously contentless.
> 
> Do you mean science content?  If so I'll agree, plenty of human content though.  You probably don't like Theodore Sturgeon either then.  No hard science, plenty of emotion/love.  "Need" may be my favorite short story.  (My fiction reading has taken a big detour into Sturgeon lately.)


   "For the very first time"? ;-)


-- 
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On Saturday, 14 December 2013 09:35:41 UTC+11, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.  wrote:
> In article <e4d1c94d-062d-4d5a-9245-6c3624c68e29@googlegroups.com>,  
> bill.sloman@gmail.com says..
> > >  
> > > Hilarious! 
> >  
> > Sarcasm. And cheap sarcasm at that, since you didn't specify what specifically you were being sarcastic about.  
> >  
> > I started my post with an incomplete quotation. A more complete quote is "Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now. Never contradict. Never explain. Never apologise.? 
> >  
> > Using it in this context was intentionally funny. I'm not altogether surprised that you didn't get that particular joke. Even John Woodgate might have missed it.
> > 
>  Have you ever gotten the idea that your neurons use a different  protocol than the majority that come here?

Never. I do know more about more different subject than most of the people who post here, which might suggest that my memory works better, but "a different protocol" isn't a necessary - or even a remotely plausible - hypothesis.
  
>  Just an honest question, really!

But not all that well informed.

-- 
Bil Sloman, Sydney

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 17:35:41 -0500, "Maynard A. Philbrook Jr."
<jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

>In article <e4d1c94d-062d-4d5a-9245-6c3624c68e29@googlegroups.com>, 
>bill.sloman@gmail.com says...
>> >  
>> > Hilarious!
>> 
>> Sarcasm. And cheap sarcasm at that, since you didn't specify what specifically you were being sarcastic about. 
>> 
>> I started my post with an incomplete quotation. A more complete quote is "Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now. Never contradict. Never explain. Never apologise.?
>> 
>> Using it in this context was intentionally funny. I'm not altogether surprised that you didn't get that particular joke. Even John Woodgate might have missed it.
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>
> Have you ever gotten the idea that your neurons use a different 
>protocol than the majority that come here?

Yeah, flatlined.

> Just and honest question, really!

Honest reply.

On Saturday, 14 December 2013 11:20:11 UTC+11, k...@attt.bizz  wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 17:35:41 -0500, "Maynard A. Philbrook Jr." 
> <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:  
> >In article <e4d1c94d-062d-4d5a-9245-6c3624c68e29@googlegroups.com>, 
> >bill.sloman@gmail.com says...
> >> >   
> >> > Hilarious!
> >> 
> >> Sarcasm. And cheap sarcasm at that, since you didn't specify what specifically you were being sarcastic about. 
> >> 
> >> I started my post with an incomplete quotation. A more complete quote is "Whatever you can do or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now. Never contradict. Never explain. Never apologise.? 
> >>  
> >> Using it in this context was intentionally funny. I'm not altogether surprised that you didn't get that particular joke. Even John Woodgate might have missed it.
> >>  
> > Have you ever gotten the idea that your neurons use a different protocol than the majority that come here?
>  
> Yeah, flatlined.

krw is reliably stupid. "Flatlined" is no brain activity at all - not even enough to point out that krw is dim, which doesn't take any intellectual effort at all, but does require directing fingertips to keyboard.
 
> > Just and honest question, really! 
> 
> Honest reply.

Honest as far as krw understands anything, but since he understands so very little, his honesty is worth just as much has his deceit - it is just as likely to mislead you.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney