Well close. The Infiniti socket is 16 pins and so is standard ODBII. But this is a 14 to 16 pin adapter. And I thought only Apple uses GD proprietary connectors. The shop manual calls the ODBII scanner the GST (general scanner tool), just to make the manual harder to read I suppose. BTW, if you never did it, for like $20 or so, there are websites that let you download the official manuals. I suppose there are pirated manuals as well, but $20 seems fair considering what cars cost. You get a one day subscription to the service. it is really intended for repair shops.
How to send commands to ELM327 OBD interface
Started by ●November 24, 2012
Reply by ●November 26, 20122012-11-26
Reply by ●November 27, 20122012-11-27
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak ><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Great guys! >>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, so=probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate with= the ELM.>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill =!!!> >This forum and article might be of some help. >"free OBD2 software with MPG calc" ><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7=490.html>> >Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with. >The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and >have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone >while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead >car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not >turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power. >Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the >blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates >similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off >switch.There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? ???-)
Reply by ●November 27, 20122012-11-27
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >wrote: > >>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak >><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Great guys! >>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate with the ELM. >>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill !!! >> >>This forum and article might be of some help. >>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc" >><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html> >> >>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with. >>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and >>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone >>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead >>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not >>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power. >>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the >>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates >>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off >>switch. > >There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten >a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the >case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? > >???-)And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●November 27, 20122012-11-27
Jim Thompson wrote:> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk > <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> > >wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak > >><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>Great guys! > >>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate with the ELM. > >>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill !!! > >> > >>This forum and article might be of some help. > >>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc" > >><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html> > >> > >>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with. > >>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and > >>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone > >>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead > >>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not > >>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power. > >>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the > >>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates > >>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off > >>switch. > > > >There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten > >a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the > >case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? > > > >???-) > > And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power > that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-)On the OBDII diagnostic port?
Reply by ●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote as underneath my scribble :>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >wrote: > >>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak >><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>Great guys! >>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate with the ELM. >>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill !!! >> >>This forum and article might be of some help. >>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc" >><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html> >> >>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with. >>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and >>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone >>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead >>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not >>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power. >>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the >>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates >>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off >>switch.>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten >a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the >case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? >I have had one of these clone ELM bluetooth units for about a year 1.5 version, no signs at all of overheating, gets slightly warm in use as you wd expect, I dont leave it plugged in doing nothing though....! Maybe OP has been unlucky in his units, but it seems to be a known problem, look on Amazon comments etc. C+
Reply by ●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:18:50 -0800, miso <miso@sushi.com> wrote:>Well close. The Infiniti socket is 16 pins and so is standard ODBII. But==20>this is a 14 to 16 pin adapter. > >And I thought only Apple uses GD proprietary connectors.Bwahahahahah. Large companies have been using proprietary connectors since there were connectors, well over 100 years. How could you possibly be that naive?> >The shop manual calls the ODBII scanner the GST (general scanner tool),=20 >just to make the manual harder to read I suppose. > >BTW, if you never did it, for like $20 or so, there are websites that=20 >let you download the official manuals. I suppose there are pirated=20 >manuals as well, but $20 seems fair considering what cars cost. You get=20 >a one day subscription to the service. it is really intended for repair=20 >shops.
Reply by ●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk ><joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak >>><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Great guys! >>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, =so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate = with the ELM.>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. =Brill !!!>>> >>>This forum and article might be of some help. >>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc"^^^^^>>><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc=-7490.html>>>> >>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with. >>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and >>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone >>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead >>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not >>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power. >>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the >>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates >>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off >>>switch. >> >>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to =flatten>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt =the>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? >> >>???-) > >And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power >that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-) > =09 > ...Jim ThompsonThis is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition switch position. Please pay attention properly. ?-)
Reply by ●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800, josephkk <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk >><joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak >>>><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Great guys! >>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate with the ELM. >>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill !!! >>>> >>>>This forum and article might be of some help. >>>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc" > ^^^^^ > > >>>><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html> >>>> >>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with. >>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and >>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone >>>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead >>>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not >>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power. >>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the >>>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates >>>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off >>>>switch. >>> >>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten >>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the >>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? >>> >>>???-) >> >>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power >>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-) >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition >switch position. Please pay attention properly. > >?-)It doesn't? When I get smog-checked, they plug into the OBD2, then turn the key!!! ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply by ●November 28, 20122012-11-28
> > >There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten > >a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the > >case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? > > I have had one of these clone ELM bluetooth units for about a year 1.5 > version, no signs at all of overheating, gets slightly warm in use as > you wd expect, I dont leave it plugged in doing nothing though....! > Maybe OP has been unlucky in his units, but it seems to be a known > problem, look on Amazon comments etc. >It's just bad designs/programmers. Poorly design products can kill any battery. Don't they know about low-power/idle/standby modes? Perhaps they do and will be ready to sell you an upgrade with a premium price.
Reply by ●November 28, 20122012-11-28
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message news:88ccb85462kjpn3crskqb1r46t3n2icc2q@4ax.com...> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800, josephkk > <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk >>><joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak >>>>><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Great guys! >>>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, >>>>>>so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate >>>>>>with the ELM. >>>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill >>>>>>!!! >>>>> >>>>>This forum and article might be of some help. >>>>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc" >> ^^^^^ >> >> >>>>><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html> >>>>> >>>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with. >>>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and >>>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone >>>>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead >>>>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not >>>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power. >>>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the >>>>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates >>>>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off >>>>>switch. >>>> >>>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to >>>>flatten >>>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the >>>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going? >>>> >>>>???-) >>> >>>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power >>>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-) >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition >>switch position. Please pay attention properly. >> >>?-) > > It doesn't? When I get smog-checked, they plug into the OBD2, then > turn the key!!! > > ...Jim Thompson > --The 12 volts on the ODB2 connector is directly to the battery. It is on all the time.
