Reply by Another idiot on google groups●September 16, 20212021-09-16
Mark Sargeant <automapusa@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 at 1:21:41 PM UTC-8, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
>> The ECU which they talk to isn't on unless you turn the key
>> OBD2 connector has KL30, the ECU wake-up/shut-down based on KL15
>> -Lasse
>
> Lasse,
>
> Based on your expertise, with the EV coming into the market we have
> been having an issue waking the EVs to obtain readings. Have you
> seen or encountered this, and do you know of a solution?
After nine years, do you really think Lasse is still waiting around for
your question to their posting?
Reply by Mark Sargeant●September 16, 20212021-09-16
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 at 1:21:41 PM UTC-8, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
> On 28 Nov., 16:44, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
> Web-Site.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800, josephkk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > >On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
> > ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk
> > >><joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > >>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> > >>>wrote:
> >
> > >>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak
> > >>>><powerampfr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>Great guys!
> > >>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate with the ELM.
> > >>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill !!!
> >
> > >>>>This forum and article might be of some help.
> > >>>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc"
> > > ^^^^^
> >
> > >>>><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc...>
> >
> > >>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with.
> > >>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and
> > >>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone
> > >>>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead
> > >>>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not
> > >>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power.
> > >>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the
> > >>>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates
> > >>>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off
> > >>>>switch.
> >
> > >>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten
> > >>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the
> > >>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going?
> >
> > >>>???-)
> >
> > >>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power
> > >>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-)
> >
> > >> ...Jim Thompson
> >
> > >This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition
> > >switch position. Please pay attention properly.
> >
> > >?-)
> >
> > It doesn't? When I get smog-checked, they plug into the OBD2, then
> > turn the key!!!
> >
> The ECU which they talk to isn't on unless you turn the key
>
> OBD2 connector has KL30, the ECU wake-up/shut-down based on KL15
>
>
>
> -Lasse
Lasse,
Based on your expertise, with the EV coming into the market we have been having an issue waking the EVs to obtain readings. Have you seen or encountered this, and do you know of a solution?
Mark
Reply by ●April 21, 20182018-04-21
dilinpi807@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Im really and hardly loooking for creating an android app that
> communicates with my elm327 clone. Its my final year project and im
> really confused of the commands.
>
> Is there any tutorial or anyone please help me bros..I wanted the
> command set. I have read the datasheet of elm and it feels very
> confusing for me. Please help
Hi Im really and hardly loooking for creating an android app that communicates with my elm327 clone. Its my final year project and im really confused of the commands.
Is there any tutorial or anyone please help me bros..I wanted the command set. I have read the datasheet of elm and it feels very confusing for me. Please help
Reply by lang...@fonz.dk●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On 28 Nov., 16:44, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800, josephkk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
> ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk
> >><joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >>>wrote:
>
> >>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak
> >>>><powerampfr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>Great guys!
> >>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232,=
so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate wit=
h the ELM.
> >>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Bri=
>
> >>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with.
> >>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and
> >>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone
> >>>>while driving. =A0The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead
> >>>>car battery the next morning. =A0It seems that the Mini ELM327 does n=
ot
> >>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power.
> >>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt th=
e
> >>>>blue plastic case. =A0A quick survey of other such devices indicates
> >>>>similar problems. =A0I had to crack the case to install an on-off
> >>>>switch.
>
> >>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flat=
ten
> >>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? =A0 Hot enough to melt=
the
> >>>case??? =A0Where in hell is all that energy going?
>
> >>>???-)
>
> >>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power
> >>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-)
>
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0...Jim Thompson
>
> >This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition
> >switch position. =A0Please pay attention properly.
>
> >?-)
>
> It doesn't? =A0When I get smog-checked, they plug into the OBD2, then
> turn the key!!!
>
The ECU which they talk to isn't on unless you turn the key
OBD2 connector has KL30, the ECU wake-up/shut-down based on KL15
-Lasse
Reply by linnix●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:21:27 AM UTC-8, tm wrote:
> "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
>
> message news:88ccb85462kjpn3crskqb1r46t3n2icc2q@4ax.com...
>
> > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800, josephkk
>
> > <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
>
> >><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk
>
> >>><joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>
> >>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak
>
> >>>>><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>>Great guys!
>
> >>>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232,
>
> >>>>>>so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate
>
> >>>>>>with the ELM.
>
> >>>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill
>
> >>>>>>!!!
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>This forum and article might be of some help.
>
> >>>>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc"
>
> >> ^^^^^
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with.
>
> >>>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and
>
> >>>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone
>
> >>>>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead
>
> >>>>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not
>
> >>>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power.
>
> >>>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the
>
> >>>>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates
>
> >>>>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off
>
> >>>>>switch.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to
>
> >>>>flatten
>
> >>>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the
>
> >>>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going?
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>???-)
>
> >>>
>
> >>>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power
>
> >>>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-)
>
> >>>
>
> >>> ...Jim Thompson
>
> >>
>
> >>This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition
>
> >>switch position. Please pay attention properly.
>
> >>
>
> >>?-)
>
> >
>
> > It doesn't? When I get smog-checked, they plug into the OBD2, then
>
> > turn the key!!!
>
> >
>
> > ...Jim Thompson
>
> > --
>
>
>
> The 12 volts on the ODB2 connector is directly to the battery. It is on all
>
> the time.
And they know nothing about activity timer? All smartphones are connected to the batteries all the time, but not on all the time.
Reply by tm●November 28, 20122012-11-28
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:88ccb85462kjpn3crskqb1r46t3n2icc2q@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800, josephkk
> <joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk
>>><joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak
>>>>><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Great guys!
>>>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232,
>>>>>>so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate
>>>>>>with the ELM.
>>>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill
>>>>>>!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>This forum and article might be of some help.
>>>>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc"
>> ^^^^^
>>
>>
>>>>><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with.
>>>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and
>>>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone
>>>>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead
>>>>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not
>>>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power.
>>>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the
>>>>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates
>>>>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off
>>>>>switch.
>>>>
>>>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to
>>>>flatten
>>>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the
>>>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going?
>>>>
>>>>???-)
>>>
>>>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power
>>>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-)
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition
>>switch position. Please pay attention properly.
>>
>>?-)
>
> It doesn't? When I get smog-checked, they plug into the OBD2, then
> turn the key!!!
>
> ...Jim Thompson
> --
The 12 volts on the ODB2 connector is directly to the battery. It is on all
the time.
Reply by linnix●November 28, 20122012-11-28
>
> >There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten
> >a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the
> >case??? Where in hell is all that energy going?
>
> I have had one of these clone ELM bluetooth units for about a year 1.5
> version, no signs at all of overheating, gets slightly warm in use as
> you wd expect, I dont leave it plugged in doing nothing though....!
> Maybe OP has been unlucky in his units, but it seems to be a known
> problem, look on Amazon comments etc.
>
It's just bad designs/programmers. Poorly design products can kill any battery. Don't they know about low-power/idle/standby modes? Perhaps they do and will be ready to sell you an upgrade with a premium price.
Reply by Jim Thompson●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800, josephkk
<joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk
>><joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak
>>>><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Great guys!
>>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate with the ELM.
>>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. Brill !!!
>>>>
>>>>This forum and article might be of some help.
>>>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc"
> ^^^^^
>
>
>>>><http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/free-obd2-software-mpg-calc-7490.html>
>>>>
>>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with.
>>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and
>>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone
>>>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead
>>>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not
>>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power.
>>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the
>>>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates
>>>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off
>>>>switch.
>>>
>>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to flatten
>>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt the
>>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going?
>>>
>>>???-)
>>
>>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power
>>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-)
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition
>switch position. Please pay attention properly.
>
>?-)
It doesn't? When I get smog-checked, they plug into the OBD2, then
turn the key!!!
...Jim Thompson
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Reply by josephkk●November 28, 20122012-11-28
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 08:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:41:42 -0800, josephkk
><joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:02:42 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:44:42 -0800 (PST), powerampfreak
>>><powerampfreak@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Great guys!
>>>>ELM327 is a pre-programmed PIC processor. It communicates by RS-232, =
so probably I can set up another PIC through the USART and communicate =
with the ELM.
>>>>And possibly use a 2x16 char LCD display to show the parameters. =
Brill !!!
>>>
>>>This forum and article might be of some help.
>>>"free OBD2 software with MPG calc"
>>>
>>>Incidentally, I bought a Mini ELM327 BlueTooth on eBay to play with.
>>>The plan was to leave it plugged into my vehicle OBD2 connector and
>>>have it communicate performance numbers via BT to my Droid X phone
>>>while driving. The plan was ruined when I found myself with a dead
>>>car battery the next morning. It seems that the Mini ELM327 does not
>>>turn off when the ignition key is off, and continues to draw power.
>>>Actually, it drew enough power to get hot enough to partially melt the
>>>blue plastic case. A quick survey of other such devices indicates
>>>similar problems. I had to crack the case to install an on-off
>>>switch.
>>
>>There is something weird about this, a PIC eating enough power to =
flatten
>>a 12 V, 50 Ah or more battery in a few hours??? Hot enough to melt =
the
>>case??? Where in hell is all that energy going?
>>
>>???-)
>
>And someone with no knowledge that vehicles DO have "accessory" power
>that goes off when the ignition switch is off :-)
> =09
> ...Jim Thompson
This is on the OBD2 connector, which does not depend on the ignition
switch position. Please pay attention properly.
?-)