Jim Thompson wrote:> > On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:55:51 -0700, Jim Thompson > <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > > >On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:43:01 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > ><mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > >> > >>Jim Thompson wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:08:49 -0600, John Fields > >>> ?jfields@austininstruments.com? wrote: > >>> > >>> ?On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:22:04 +0100, Fred Bartoli ?" "? wrote: > >>> ? > >>> [snip] > >>> ?? > >>> ??Try wiring something on those white protoboards then send this 1000 > >>> ??miles away through UPS and see if/when parts arrive... You might expect > >>> ??some group delay distortion :-) IOW some jitter on parts arrival time > >>> ? > >>> ?--- > >>> ?Agreed. > >>> ? > >>> ?What I thought he was referring to was a circuit cobbled together on a > >>> ?piece of perfboard, which can easily be cleaned up and ruggedized to > >>> ?the point where it can be shipped anywhere and arrive in the same > >>> ?shape it left. > >>> ? > >>> ?Unless, of course, it's damaged by a mule stepping on it or something > >>> ?like that. > >>> > >>> To get that you must ship USPS ;-) > >> > >> > >> Not always. My dad had ordered one of those round TV antennas. It > >>was shipped UPS. The box arrived with tire marks and was taped back > >>together. The box was full of broken plastic & twisted metal. Then > >>they tried to claim that was the way they recieved it from the shipper. > >> > >> Then there was the time they were on strike, and held about $250,000 > >>worth of our shipments fro several weeks while our customers raised > >>hell. After that a lot of our customers insisted on shipping by Fedex, > >>or by truck. > > > >I avoid UPS also. > > > > ...Jim Thompson > > One thing I forgot to mention... when I receive a package with > exterior damage I photograph it before opening, then photograph each > step of opening... never had a claim denied.They asked us to open it and inspect it for damage. They changed their attitude when I told them I was going to call UPS Corporate and raise hell. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:24:59 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:> >Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:55:51 -0700, Jim Thompson >> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >> >> >On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:43:01 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >> ><mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >>Jim Thompson wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:08:49 -0600, John Fields >> >>> ?jfields@austininstruments.com? wrote: >> >>> >> >>> ?On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:22:04 +0100, Fred Bartoli ?" "? wrote: >> >>> ? >> >>> [snip] >> >>> ?? >> >>> ??Try wiring something on those white protoboards then send this 1000 >> >>> ??miles away through UPS and see if/when parts arrive... You might expect >> >>> ??some group delay distortion :-) IOW some jitter on parts arrival time >> >>> ? >> >>> ?--- >> >>> ?Agreed. >> >>> ? >> >>> ?What I thought he was referring to was a circuit cobbled together on a >> >>> ?piece of perfboard, which can easily be cleaned up and ruggedized to >> >>> ?the point where it can be shipped anywhere and arrive in the same >> >>> ?shape it left. >> >>> ? >> >>> ?Unless, of course, it's damaged by a mule stepping on it or something >> >>> ?like that. >> >>> >> >>> To get that you must ship USPS ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> Not always. My dad had ordered one of those round TV antennas. It >> >>was shipped UPS. The box arrived with tire marks and was taped back >> >>together. The box was full of broken plastic & twisted metal. Then >> >>they tried to claim that was the way they recieved it from the shipper. >> >> >> >> Then there was the time they were on strike, and held about $250,000 >> >>worth of our shipments fro several weeks while our customers raised >> >>hell. After that a lot of our customers insisted on shipping by Fedex, >> >>or by truck. >> > >> >I avoid UPS also. >> > >> > ...Jim Thompson >> >> One thing I forgot to mention... when I receive a package with >> exterior damage I photograph it before opening, then photograph each >> step of opening... never had a claim denied. > > > They asked us to open it and inspect it for damage. They changed >their attitude when I told them I was going to call UPS Corporate and >raise hell.I bought a dust collector. UPS (IIRC) pretty well crushed the package and bent a lot of the metal parts inside, including the blower housing. A call to the manufacturer had new parts on the way the next day. I had an issue with my cabinet saw, too, but it was a trucking firm (not UPS). They lost the fence but Amazon is really good about lighting fires under people. Using a credit card for such purchases is a good idea, too.
Reply by ●November 24, 20112011-11-24
"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:> > On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:24:59 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >Jim Thompson wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:55:51 -0700, Jim Thompson > >> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >> > >> >On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:43:01 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> ><mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>Jim Thompson wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:08:49 -0600, John Fields > >> >>> ?jfields@austininstruments.com? wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> ?On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:22:04 +0100, Fred Bartoli ?" "? wrote: > >> >>> ? > >> >>> [snip] > >> >>> ?? > >> >>> ??Try wiring something on those white protoboards then send this 1000 > >> >>> ??miles away through UPS and see if/when parts arrive... You might expect > >> >>> ??some group delay distortion :-) IOW some jitter on parts arrival time > >> >>> ? > >> >>> ?--- > >> >>> ?Agreed. > >> >>> ? > >> >>> ?What I thought he was referring to was a circuit cobbled together on a > >> >>> ?piece of perfboard, which can easily be cleaned up and ruggedized to > >> >>> ?the point where it can be shipped anywhere and arrive in the same > >> >>> ?shape it left. > >> >>> ? > >> >>> ?Unless, of course, it's damaged by a mule stepping on it or something > >> >>> ?like that. > >> >>> > >> >>> To get that you must ship USPS ;-) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Not always. My dad had ordered one of those round TV antennas. It > >> >>was shipped UPS. The box arrived with tire marks and was taped back > >> >>together. The box was full of broken plastic & twisted metal. Then > >> >>they tried to claim that was the way they recieved it from the shipper. > >> >> > >> >> Then there was the time they were on strike, and held about $250,000 > >> >>worth of our shipments fro several weeks while our customers raised > >> >>hell. After that a lot of our customers insisted on shipping by Fedex, > >> >>or by truck. > >> > > >> >I avoid UPS also. > >> > > >> > ...Jim Thompson > >> > >> One thing I forgot to mention... when I receive a package with > >> exterior damage I photograph it before opening, then photograph each > >> step of opening... never had a claim denied. > > > > > > They asked us to open it and inspect it for damage. They changed > >their attitude when I told them I was going to call UPS Corporate and > >raise hell. > > I bought a dust collector. UPS (IIRC) pretty well crushed the package and > bent a lot of the metal parts inside, including the blower housing. A call to > the manufacturer had new parts on the way the next day. I had an issue with > my cabinet saw, too, but it was a trucking firm (not UPS). They lost the > fence but Amazon is really good about lighting fires under people. Using a > credit card for such purchases is a good idea, too.He did. he called the vendor who raised hell with UPS, and shipped the replacement via USPS while they filed a claim against UPS. The local UPS Office had a lot of dead wood that ended up being fired. They refused to deliver some computer parts once, claiming that the road didn't exist. The package had my phone number with instructions for the driver to call for directions, if needed. It never made it to the truck, becasue someone like Mathew Orman worked in the sorting area and took it upon themselves to call me to tell me that I had to pick it up before 4PM or they were returning it to the shipper. It was 3:45 and a 20+ mile trip so Itold them that if they didn't deliver it the next day I would be on the phone to corporate and demand that they be fired. The driver was quite pissed the next day, and thanked me for reading them the riot act. He knew where the road was, since he was there several times a week delivering to a neighbor's business. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
